bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
Atheists cannot prove God does not exist...
Therefore it's a matter of faith.
Therefore it's a matter of faith.
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warpus
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No, it's defined as a lack of faith in God.
Faith that God doesn't exist is a subset of atheism, but doesn't define all of it. Even so, it would be hard to argue that strong atheism is a religion.. There are no prophets, no rituals, no common dogma, no common beliefs about the nature of reality, etc.
bathsheba666 said:
I can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist either, and I wouldn't call that faith.
Richard Dawkins on atheism. He mentions the Flying Spaghetti Monster too. Sweet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jjDLKMswM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jjDLKMswM
all of this refers to strong atheism though - which i estimate around 99% of the atheists are not.
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Atheism is not a religion.
Assume Atheism is a religion
=>
Atheist people are religious
Contradiction here, after the first deduction!
Assume Atheism is a religion
=>
Atheist people are religious
Contradiction here, after the first deduction!
Urederra
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Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Faith in a 'fact' does not a religion make. Stupid order of words in a sentence does not wisdom make. (sorry 
)
Does me having faith in the 'fact' my car is at the parkinglot make me religious?
)Does me having faith in the 'fact' my car is at the parkinglot make me religious?
Talkie_Toaster
I toast, therefore I am
Difference, Ziggy, difference. The car can be proven to be at the parking lot, in more ways than pure logic. Atheism, on the other hand, is a logical deduction, and cannot be physically proven.
Atheism isn't even a lifestyle, though, like most religions are. Atheists tend to follow the secular customs of their own country, not follow one particular "atheist" movement. That's where the idea that "atheism is a religion" breaks down - you'd have better luck quantifying secular humanism as a religion, but I doubt you'd even make that work.
Talkie_Toaster
I toast, therefore I am
The word most implies exception. Atheism can be regarded as one of these exceptions. Also, I know many people that consider themselves "Christian", but not one of them follow any kind of ritual. (Apart from Christmas and Easter, which we discount)
bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
But I assume you get presents every year, more often than miracles.
So it's hardly a valid comparison.
Though, from my particular perspective, your comment puts it all in a delightful context.
I am religious and don't classify atheism in itself as a religion. However, atheists may follow ideologies that themselves bear close resemblance to religion (such as secular humanism, or some forms of communism, or even UU).
Talkie_Toaster
I toast, therefore I am
What's UU?
Universal Unitarianism, I think. There are some UU who started a thread here, I think some of them are atheist.
Talkie_Toaster
I toast, therefore I am
Oh, Utilitarianism? I thought that was ethics, not religion...
No, Unitarianism, that is something different.
Talkie_Toaster
I toast, therefore I am
Hmm, not heard of that... *wikis*
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When the premise says -"I don't have belief that there is a God,therefore I am incline to believe in the doctrine of..."
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
You can't prove a negative.
Is believing that an invisible unicorn doesn't exist in my pants a religion just because you can't prove it false?
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