Senethro
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Why are the handwringers and pearl clutchers suddenly desperate to attack the character of a murderer? Isn't that last bit enough?
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There's this on reddit, at least supposedly his own words and a "manifesto". There the motive is presented to be his mother's chronic severe pain and the insurance company being detrimental:
But there are other elements there. It's even titled as an attack on "allopathic" medicine (the opposite/complimentary set of homeopathic medicine). It may also be an implicit metaphor (eg for the political situation; implying that your enemy/the other is what will fix things) The second amendment bit (in the very beginning and the very end) is possibly a sophism and secondary, but literally there to start and end the 'manifesto'.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfudg/comments/1haucaf/alleged_manifesto_of_luigi_mangione/
But there are other elements there. It's even titled as an attack on "allopathic" medicine (the opposite/complimentary set of homeopathic medicine). It may also be an implicit metaphor (eg for the political situation; implying that your enemy/the other is what will fix things) The second amendment bit (in the very beginning and the very end) is possibly a sophism and secondary, but literally there to start and end the 'manifesto'.
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Wealthy enough to pay = / = willingness to pay.
(pure speculation, of course, but a possibility)
I think "the allopathic complex" here is likely just a wanky way to say "medical administration in the US". Like the military industry complex.
Senethro
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It used to be crank terminology was a great way to exact phrase search your way back to where the wackos drew their water, but search engines are terrible these days.
Angst
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why are people surprised he's the kind of guy he is? it's basically always that type, regardless of target
Just one person, or a few people here and there, won't bring about such a change - regarding insurance companies or the general health system in the US.
For a few years - maybe now it has quieted down significantly? - there was a global phenomenon following that V for Vendetta movie, with Anonymous. They were active online and even got into a war with a mafia cartel. But that was inspired by a movie, which already is art and symbolic. A real person, killing a ceo, I'd suppose won't lead to a movement.
It may lead to ceos hiring more security, of course.
For a few years - maybe now it has quieted down significantly? - there was a global phenomenon following that V for Vendetta movie, with Anonymous. They were active online and even got into a war with a mafia cartel. But that was inspired by a movie, which already is art and symbolic. A real person, killing a ceo, I'd suppose won't lead to a movement.
It may lead to ceos hiring more security, of course.
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Ordnael
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Arrived way to late at this, but learned a lot from your shares. A couple of thoughts:
Only in a country like the US would this happen! As in someone was pissed enough to go get a gun, some training in weapons handling and go through with the act. I guess the 2nd amendment really comes in handy when allowing someone to dispense his own justice (however righteous or not it may be!)
I read elsewhere though the internet noise that the gun wasn't just any run of the mill typical gun plus the suppressor and apparently it jammed during the act, which Luigi quickly unjammed with apparent proficiency. Also read the victim might have been involved in insider trading!
Is any of this true?
Only in a country like the US would this happen! As in someone was pissed enough to go get a gun, some training in weapons handling and go through with the act. I guess the 2nd amendment really comes in handy when allowing someone to dispense his own justice (however righteous or not it may be!)
I read elsewhere though the internet noise that the gun wasn't just any run of the mill typical gun plus the suppressor and apparently it jammed during the act, which Luigi quickly unjammed with apparent proficiency. Also read the victim might have been involved in insider trading!
Is any of this true?
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^Without knowing about his political views, I suspected that the 2nd amendment bit was there ironically, or perhaps to stick it to 2nd amendment defenders (?). But of course this may be entirely false, and he may be expressed by it.
Anyway, going by his own (do we know if it is real/authentic?) 'manifesto', the insurance company wasn't the main problem (it is mentioned in the final two pages iirc, and not that much), but wrong health diagnoses and horrible side effects of drugs used. Which is why, perhaps, the attack on allopathic medicine may not entirely be metaphoric.
The text isn't itself well-written or interesting. The claims about society are too general, references are rather chaotic - Gandhi, MLK and Camus, don't mix much, nor are they typically associated with "capitalism". It'd be good to at least know if he wrote all this.
Would any reasonably intelligent/well educated person write this - it's a valid question, imo, since currently it reads exactly like what you'd find if you opened a box with "poorly written fictional letter implying its writer is insane".
Anyway, going by his own (do we know if it is real/authentic?) 'manifesto', the insurance company wasn't the main problem (it is mentioned in the final two pages iirc, and not that much), but wrong health diagnoses and horrible side effects of drugs used. Which is why, perhaps, the attack on allopathic medicine may not entirely be metaphoric.
The text isn't itself well-written or interesting. The claims about society are too general, references are rather chaotic - Gandhi, MLK and Camus, don't mix much, nor are they typically associated with "capitalism". It'd be good to at least know if he wrote all this.
Would any reasonably intelligent/well educated person write this - it's a valid question, imo, since currently it reads exactly like what you'd find if you opened a box with "poorly written fictional letter implying its writer is insane".
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Joij21
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So??? Why do people have to let his background get in the way of actually going out and doing mass action?
This is proof of how dumb the masses are, as soon as their lone vigilante turns out to not be exactly how they imagined they go on a purity death spiral into why they suddenly don't care about overthrowing the system. See this is exactly what the MSN which is now running interference WANTS, they're going to overemphasize his wealth in a way to alienate and bottle up any revolutionary potential his actions could have inspired.
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Ordnael
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Wouldn't want to be on the shoes of the MacDonald's employee that snitched on Luigi!
There are some very angry people out there within an arm's reach of a handgun or. in Luigi's case. a 3D printed frankenstein of a gun!
There are some very angry people out there within an arm's reach of a handgun or. in Luigi's case. a 3D printed frankenstein of a gun!
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I was absolutely expecting something like this, just expected it to be more photoshoppy.
Plains-Cow
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....and you expect results from this group you're convinced is dumb and incapable?
Regardless, if you click on Dumb Masses' diplo screen and scroll over to Declare War and hover your mouse over CEOs, you'll probably see "We are afraid of their military might."
You'd think any of those angry people would do better to find some other ethically-bereft CEO to take out their anger upon, rather than a McD employee. Much more bang for the buck, as they say.
Joij21
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They're not afraid of eating tide pods, but they're too scared to do a little mass action and maybe charge a few machine gun nests to overthrow the bourgeois.
Both are lethal, but one of these lethal things leads to more clout in the age of social media grandstanding. Hence tide pod consumption over liberation.
Joij21
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I think the point is what specifically his job was (lording over a corporation that denied people health coverage as part of its business model and being it's symbolic figurehead or rather face if you will). Thus he was specifically targeted for a symbolic act.
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