[R&F] Devs Play as India

[Remmert]

I liked the presentation Sarah and Brian were a great team, however it was a lot of talking and laughter, not really much is revealed, next to the governor system.
But then again, there is more coming up, save the best for last.

 

[darkace77450]

I was hoping they'd showcase/discuss the wonder that grants four governor titles during this stream. Given how rare these things are, this might be a wonder I shoot for in every game I play regardless of victory condition.

 

[Disgustipated]

I was hoping they'd showcase/discuss the wonder that grants four governor titles during this stream. Given how rare these things are, this might be a wonder I shoot for in every game I play regardless of victory condition.

which wonder is this? Given how limited this resource is, I can see myself going for this one too.

 

[Zaarin]

I liked the presentation Sarah and Brian were a great team, however it was a lot of talking and laughter, not really much is revealed, next to the governor system.
But then again, there is more coming up, save the best for last.

In a lot of interviews Sarah has this very uncomfortable nervous laugh (not really a criticism: I know how it feels to be socially awkward); it was nice to see her more relaxed.

 

[darkace77450]

which wonder is this? Given how limited this resource is, I can see myself going for this one too.

Unknown, but presumably it's the Archivo de Indias.

 

[UWHabs]

I liked the presentation Sarah and Brian were a great team, however it was a lot of talking and laughter, not really much is revealed, next to the governor system.
But then again, there is more coming up, save the best for last.

Yeah, I mean, they showed off the governor trees for them, and a little bit of gameplay, but in some ways it was more watching a guy play the game for an hour than any sort of "first look". For supposedly showing off governors, I think they should have ignored the first game they tried, and just opted to show the second one, where they were attacking, and then show how they could use the governors to keep cities loyal after a war/boost up the cities.

 

[Ivan Hunger]

It's interesting that each governor's role changes in each stage of the game.

Castellan
Early game: Protects your cities from barbarians and civs designed around early aggression.
Mid-game: Protects you from spies and gives you more reasons to build walls and encampments.
Late game: Protects you from nukes.

Diplomat
Early game: Manipulates loyalty to let you steal cities peacefully and defend yourself from the same.
Mid-game: Helps with amenity shortages.
Late game: Locks down any one city-state for you.

Cardinal
Early game: Helps get your newly founded religion up and running at full capacity.
Mid-game: Makes it nearly impossible to completely exterminate your religion, even with a strong enemy invasion.
Late game: Gives super-apostles for that final religious victory push.

Steward
Early game: Lets you go both tall and wide at the same time. No need to choose just one.
Mid-game: Prevents you from getting resource-screwed, and makes obsolete resources more useful.
Late game: Turns one city into a production powerhouse for unit spam, wonder spam, whatever you want.

Surveyor
Early game: The go-to governor for coastal starts. Also helps get more governors sooner.
Mid-game: Helps new expansions become useful sooner. Also helps with amenity shortages just like diplomat.
Late game: Gives appeal for neighborhoods, national parks, and seaside resorts.

Educator
Early game: Gets you out of the early game.
Mid-game: Irritates Pedro.
Late game: Lets you make that big push for science victory or, failing that, just nuke the world into oblivion.

Financier
Early game: Helps civs with trade route bonuses do their thing faster.
Mid-game: Dolla dolla bills.
Late game: Makes new expansions useful instantly and lets you make that final push for cultural victory.

 

[Zaarin]

Mid-game: Irritates Pedro.

What doesn't irritate Pedro?

 

[Kimiimaro]

What doesn't irritate Pedro?

When you play as him and have many Great People

 

[darkace77450]

Early game: Helps civs with trade route bonuses do their thing faster.

This applies to foreign trade routes passing through your city, so you unfortunately have no control over whether or not you get that early gold. Harbormaster seems like a good one for coastal cities, though: a CH and H next to a City Center on the coast makes this +6 gold per turn (+8 if on a river, more if sea resources are nearby).

What doesn't irritate Pedro?

Total capitulation?

 

[iammaxhailme]

Sorry, this thread is really long; can somebody summarize the important revalations in the stream, besides the governors bonuses here: https://imgur.com/gallery/Gx4So

Thanks!

 

[Ivan Hunger]

This applies to foreign trade routes passing through your city, so you unfortunately have no control over whether or not you get that early gold.

Certain civs like Egypt and the Cree give extra rewards to rival empires who send trade routes to their cities, which incentivizes them to do so. This makes getting a financier governor early a more attractive prospect for those civs.

 

[Pythakoreas]

He wants to steal your horses.

Reminds me of the fact that Genghis Khan and Alexander rode a very similar horse in their leader screens...

EDIT: To clarify, I'm talking about Civ5.

 

[pgm123]

It's interesting that each governor's role changes in each stage of the game.

Castellan
Early game: Protects your cities from barbarians and civs designed around early aggression.
Mid-game: Protects you from spies and gives you more reasons to build walls and encampments.
Late game: Protects you from nukes.

Diplomat
Early game: Manipulates loyalty to let you steal cities peacefully and defend yourself from the same.
Mid-game: Helps with amenity shortages.
Late game: Locks down any one city-state for you.

There's also a bit of a left vs. right with some of these. Castellan gives you the option of improving units or walls (left vs. right). Diplomat is clearer with the left being for posting in city states and the right being in your own cities. Cardinal lets you protect your religion on the right and be more aggressive on the left. Surveyor seems to be land on the left and sea on the right. Educator is an hourglass, but early game is culture vs. science and late game is science vs. war. I think you want both promotions for financier, but I'm not sure. Time will tell.

 

[Pythakoreas]

Interesting puns. Victor sounds like Victory and his specialty is military. Moksha is the Hindu/Buddhist/Jain term for liberation from the Samsara, the ultimate goal of spirituality. No wonder why he specializes in religion.

 

[agonistes]

Now that's an insult!

I can't stop laughing at this.

edit: I briefly thought about making it my wallpaper, and then thought, 'nope, that's not a good idea.'

 

[Zaarin]

I can't stop laughing at this.

edit: I briefly thought about making it my wallpaper, and then thought, 'nope, that's not a good idea.'

I love how most agenda approval messages are really backhanded compliments at best.

 

[Cerilis]

Interesting puns. Victor sounds like Victory and his specialty is military. Moksha is the Hindu/Buddhist/Jain term for liberation from the Samsara, the ultimate goal of spirituality. No wonder why he specializes in religion.

What about the others?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I can't stop laughing at this.

edit: I briefly thought about making it my wallpaper, and then thought, 'nope, that's not a good idea.'

You will love this then. I can't resist it now.

 

[Thormodr]

I can't stop laughing at this.

edit: I briefly thought about making it my wallpaper, and then thought, 'nope, that's not a good idea.'

Maybe as an avatar?