Differing reactions to men & women getting abused

[Senethro]

Not addressing any of my points. And resorting to childish mockery. As usual.

And I'm not even talking about the main pro/anti-feminist debate here, I'm simply trying to get a yes or no answer on whether or not anyone actually said that men can't voice opinions (of any worth) about feminism, and whether or not the reasons given as to why that is (or isn't) a valid thing to do are inconsistent. And you can't even tackle that question. You just resort to very thinly-veiled "you're an idiot" responses. Childish.

If I remember correctly it was me who said it, or something close to it. We were on the topic of sexism having existed in the past millennia of European history. You were being egregiously stubborn about denial to the extent that it looked like willful bad faith. When queried further you started talking about your much vaunted reasoning abilities instead of, y'know, seeking out feminine experiences.

My point was that without being informed by other perspectives, your mantelligence and manreasoning is insufficient to examine sexism in a sufficiently unbiased manner.

As a personal aside I think intelligence is kind of crap. It just lets you find the wrong conclusion faster. As I've got older I've come to trust my informed judgement over my reasoned from base judgement.

There. Now you can stop getting stubborn again on this point. It was me. I'm the bad guy. Now please address Cheezy.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

EDIT: Forget it. Not worth it. Apparently equal-sided discussion is too much to ask from supremely logical and intelligent men.

 

[Traitorfish]

Then I can let the matter drop. I just want CFC to be a discussion board, with no opinions categorically ruled out.

Jews are evil and should all be killed: discuss.


So, perhaps some opinions are categorically ruled out, and perhaps this is a good thing.

 

[Flying Pig]

I believe what you're quoting was in my thread, right? I'm pretty sure I clarified later on that I meant that a man's opinion about how feminism should conduct itself is irrelevant, not that we men can't talk about the issue. If I didn't and that was in a PM (entirely possible, as I've been talking to people in private about it outside the chaos of the public forum also), then I'm stating that now.

I thought that my clarification on the previous page was sufficient, but I guess if you never saw me say the other thing, then it might not have made so much sense.

How so? An Israeli's opinion of how America should protect itself isn't necessarily irrelevant, though I agree that most Americans probably have a more informed opinion than most Israelis.

 

[Bootstoots]

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