Diplo for Team BABE

jb1964 · Jul 14, 2007

killercane said:
I think sure lets have the contacts, but maybe in like 5 turns. It will make Mono cheaper for the others, but they will probably shoot towards Education.

Free already has Mono. Has had it for two turns at a minimum and has not shared it w/ Counsel. If they're going to stop tech trading until we get Education then they've already done it.

I would like to know sooner, rather than later, what the tech payout is going to be in addition to denying the GLib to Saber.

If the FC Axis has kept all the lower tier techs in one camp anticipating somebody getting the GLib then all I can do is tip my hat and mumble obscenities under my breath.

Sir Bugsy · Jul 14, 2007

I don't think they have that big a tech lead.

jb1964 · Jul 14, 2007

Conversation w/ Whomp.
I told him to send the contacts but I know there's differing opinions on that so we can always hold that off.

Spoiler :

Daghdha · Jul 15, 2007

I'd like to sit down and enjoy the view from the porch a few more turns, like canes suggested 5.

jb1964 · Jul 16, 2007

Originally Posted by jb1964 said:
We're not sure why but the concensus is that we would like to hold off on the contacts for now.

I think we're thinking the same thing. They eventually have to gift techs to each other so maybe waiting until they get education or until they make contact might be an option. -Whomp

OK, the Babes are content w/ us sitting nice and quiet. They also have made no mention of our anarchy.

BTW, if prior to contacts we would like Republic I'm willing to bet the Babes would provide it free of charge.

jb1964 · Jul 16, 2007

My reply....

Originally Posted by Whomp said:
I think we're thinking the same thing. They eventually have to gift techs to each other so maybe waiting until they get education or until they make contact might be an option.

Kewl, please keep an eye on the Dirtbag's tech situation and advise as needed.

We're sitting tight reading comics and sucking down cold ones. However, we have to take the books over to the pyramids 'cause the librarian won't let us drink in the stacks.

Should you pay a visit to anyone while we Gongers sit about please take pictures and share so we may enjoy the sights.

Daghdha · Jul 16, 2007

Good thing they're not in a hurry. This could turn out to a real waiting game. If dirt's have anticipated a GLib they may have refrained from sharing too much, but that won't hold forever. Somewhere along the line one part (or both) insist on sharing because they need whatever it is to move on. Money in the bank won't buy you anything, right? By holding the techs from each other for too long they will lose a lot of their potential effect.
I predict that we, within 5 turns, will get some piece of intel that will guide us in how to proceed. Let's be cool dudes, sit back and watch 'cane swingin' the whip.

jb1964 · Jul 16, 2007

We want full value for the GLib and then some. We should be very, very patient even if it means we sit here until Free and Counsel have to go all the way to Astro and pay us a visit to put an end to the GLib.

The Babes would be fools not to take advantage of a very, very weak Saber in the next 10 turns or so to double their holdings. The slower the Dirtbags move towards Astro the longer the Babes will have to consolidate their hold on Saber's lands.

And now I just had a horrible thought. The Babes take double the landmass and settle Saber Isle in ICS fashion and start whipping culture of their own.

jb1964 · Jul 24, 2007

A PM between myself and Whomper.....

Originally Posted by jb1964 said:
I'm just toiling away at my desk contemplating the end of the day and it struck me that burning slowly through Chiv isn't going to do you guys much good unless you have a source of iron.

I could run the save through CAII, and I will , but thought I would toss you two hotties a note.

I guess if you have a landing party that includes a settler and foreknowledge of an iron site then that makes sense.

Anything to pass along regarding the tech status of the FC Axis or anything else of note?

We're sitting on our butts waiting for the GLib payout. Ya know, if the FC-axis is dead set on not sharing techs until we're at Education then they're going to have to run suicide galleys in our direction or have one of 'em research to Astro. Either way it's going to slow down the tech pace and allow you continued ownership of the waters for an even bigger stretch.

Hey Whomp, the Cubbies are up for sale. They might go for ~$1billion. I've got $500mil laying around. Do you want to go in halves w/ me?

jb

I think we do have iron now from one of the islands.

We've sent correspondence to both Free and Council.

We asked Council to trade for engineering for mono to get a sense of what they're thinking. Council requested we research theo since they have no interest in trading engineering for mono (they said they're researching it).

Free got all bent out of shape because our two boats are blocking their coastal access on our lands. We diffused that by not talking about it and asked if they wanted to trade for engineering. They told us they don't want to trade engineering because of GONG having the Glib and they want access to our maps. This tells me they are not sharing techs with each other until they find you.
Their request for maps is laughable.
W

PS Cubs suck and they deserve Mark Cuban.

jb1964 · Jul 24, 2007

Another back and forth w/ the Whomper...

Originally Posted by jb1964 said:
Whomp said:

PS Cubs suck and they deserve Mark Cuban.

Click to expand...

First off, that's damn funny.

Secondly, I almost simultaneously choked on a ham sandwich and blew caffeine free Pepsi out my nose. The obstructed airway staved off the Pepsi through the nose.

Third, that's still damn funny.

Hey, if you send Free your world map can we have it too? We'll send you 10g for it. Now that's a deal.

Well, we've stifled the tech pace! That's cool. Need to figure out how to best leverage that.

Whomper said:
Well I think we've stifled it more than you think since Saber seems to have units on every tile along their coast. At least it's going to cost them an arm and a leg in unit support.

It might be time for plan B and hit one of the other teams and then we'll give them a map!

I'm not sure what we can do about those two sharing their techs but it requires them to research separately for sure.

Whomp

jb1964 · Jul 26, 2007

Another Babe related post....

Dutchfire made an interesting comment in the "Saber's Story" thread in reference to what they could see from the vantage point of the colossus.

Free and Council should take it as a big red flag.

dutchfire said:
Are that girls on the boats we constantly see? (They looked like horses to us, maybe we should ask Emp Killyouall for some new binoculars)

killercane · Jul 26, 2007

We need to have a pow wow with the BABEs. Their actions make no sense to me, and it would nice if they could tell their allies if they are planning on attacking Free or Council. We are way out of the information loop.

jb1964 · Jul 26, 2007

killercane said:
We need to have a pow wow with the BABEs. Their actions make no sense to me, and it would nice if they could tell their allies if they are planning on attacking Free or Council. We are way out of the information loop.

Well, lets talk about this here before we talk to them. what actions don't make sense? What kinds of questions are there that we would like to have answers?

They built up a big army to attack Saber and now Saber's shores are closed off. Plan B = ?

Ya, I don't like operating in the dark either but it's sorta what we're stuck with until the others make it over the pond. I agree that we could be getting more info outta the Babes when it comes to the rest of the world but I've been sorta of the mind to leave them be while their gaze has been over the sea.

What's everyone's thinking in terms of a confab w/ the Babes?

Sir Bugsy · Jul 27, 2007

Someone suggested that Saber might be going for 100K as well. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't 100k have two conditions that have to be met:
1) 100K
2) double the size of the next biggest civ

If Saber is going for 100K as well, neither of us will be able to win that way. :hmm:

RFHolloway · Jul 27, 2007

Sir Bugsy said:
Someone suggested that Saber might be going for 100K as well. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't 100k have two conditions that have to be met:
1) 100K
2) double the size of the next biggest civ

If Saber is going for 100K as well, neither of us will be able to win that way.

Unless we do it way better than them!

jb1964 · Jul 27, 2007

Sir Bugsy said:
Someone suggested that Saber might be going for 100K as well. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't 100k have two conditions that have to be met:
1) 100K
2) double the size of the next biggest civ

If Saber is going for 100K as well, neither of us will be able to win that way.

Well then, Saber must die. And the only way to crack that nut is going to be w/ Marines.

Do we have to double the culture of a dead civilization or does their removal from the game lower the bar, assuming that they get past 50k for it to matter?

Also, we might be able to do it far more better

,Saber's only cultural building as of turn 112 were temples. They still lacked Literature and will have to self research to Theo. Now, assuming they're going culture, they can get 5cpt/city out of temples and libs. We can add in caths, & unis far earlier.

jb1964 · Jul 29, 2007

Hey, I had a brief talk w/ Whomp and the entire Babe team is so frustrated with the discovery that Sabre has lined their shores w/ units that they've asked the powers that be (PTB's) for a ruling about this tactic.

They've not gotten an answer as of yet.

Daghdha · Jul 30, 2007

I'm surprised they haven't even considered meeting an island fortress on this map.

jb1964 · Jul 30, 2007

Daghdha said:
I'm surprised they haven't even considered meeting an island fortress on this map.

I'm not sure if they didn't think it was possible to pull this off or they thought of it as dishonorable, and therefore unlikely to be put into practice.

killercane · Aug 1, 2007

These guys have held up the save again. Is it because of the shore incident with Sabre or what? Lets get them on the horn and talk about it.

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