Does this mean the terrorists have won?

All great Empires fall. The mighty Roman, the Incredible Qing, the Colonial Empires. All gone now its America's turn and over here a fine example of American Supremency declining. Okay lets see, we got....

The war that they can't win/support. Check
Declining Economy Check
Millitary is cutting into everything Check
Diasaters Check
Disapproval of the goverment Check
Declining/Falling Infrastructure Check
Paranonia among local population Double-Check

All we need is a major revolt like Canifonia Breaking away and America collaspes!

If america falls in the same way as the soviet union it will be a very bad thing. Though if america falls more like britian I wouldn't care to much.
 
Also I believe AA shouldn't be sued if they were terrorists they would be out of bussiness. So their response was logical. they should just sue that . .. .. .. .. . from Virgina.
 
The terrorists have won, because of the sheer bloody paranoia, and stupidity of the average person...
How, exactly, have the terrorists "won"????

People have always been paranoid and stupid. Racism? Nothing new there either, that idea was invented at least three thousand years ago. Except that three thousand years ago, our two Arabic-speaking passengers wouldn't have been detained for speaking Arabic on a plane.

They would have been put to death.

The real truth is, humans are getting nicer over time, rather than nastier.

So, I put it to you, NC: you can't say "the terrorists have won" because nothing significant has changed that "the terrorists" could call a "win".

Your witness.
 
The real truth is, humans* are getting nicer over time, rather than nastier.
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* Starlin, Hilter, PolPot etc etc not included
Humanity move to more tolerance hasnt been smooth at all.

Of couse it would be embrassing to kill your own allies whom are helping you fight the war on terror. Ah Basketcase how do you think of these wacky situations. What next? Invading random countries :P
 
Randomizing the democratization of the world could be a good idea. I'm tired of needing to explain why certain countries have been chosen first.

It could be a game show. People from the countries at risk could compete to modify the random number generator.
 
If america falls in the same way as the soviet union it will be a very bad thing. Though if america falls more like britian I wouldn't care to much.

People that dance at the idea of a failing American nation often forget that there are several steps between "Huge Massively Powerful Republic" and "Collapsed Ruin" that occurred in the Roman Model, and I highly doubt the Europeans would enjoy "Military Empire that crushes all opposition and extorts all riches to support the decadence of the Motherland while bleeding the slave lands dry to the point of a 1000 year Dark Age".

Although to be fair, I wouldn't be alive to see the Dark Age and Alizee would make a damn fine slave concubine for me, one of the proud American Overlords.

Sign me up for the collapse of the Republic!
 
I only wouldn't mind if America falls and a more morally just empire takes its place/ (European Union.) Right now it would pretty much be china. (Which isn't that good.)
 
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Flight_detained_when_IraqiAmericans_speak_in_0831.html

So. One person gets scared because some guys talk in arabic on a plane? Jeez, whats the world (US) going to? Maybe the person was under the impression that only people who speak english can use airplanes, but this is just sad....

And watch the video clip, its amusing to see the spin thats easily added onto a story with one-sided reporting (even though the foreign (non-NBC) reporting does not even seem to try to look impartial..)

McM

The women was clearly hysterical, but there is one thing I must add:

according to the experience, most of the attacks on airplanes were commited by Arabs. It isn't entirely irrational to suspect them.
 
EU = moral highground. Pa-lease.

Currently yes. In my opinion if Ron Paul or Barrack Obama win the presidency we'll be back on top. (Assuming the dems keep congress.) Also it is entirely ignorant in itself to assume that the U.S=ignorance.
 
People that dance at the idea of a failing American nation often forget that there are several steps between "Huge Massively Powerful Republic" and "Collapsed Ruin" that occurred in the Roman Model, and I highly doubt the Europeans would enjoy "Military Empire that crushes all opposition and extorts all riches to support the decadence of the Motherland while bleeding the slave lands dry to the point of a 1000 year Dark Age".

Empires often fall very quickly. And even if you collapsed into some despotic militarist empire, I wouldn't care, because no matter what your propaganda officers say, you can't conquer Europe, China or anybody else except small failed states like Iraq, and even there you can't keep peace and order.

Although to be fair, I wouldn't be alive to see the Dark Age and Alizee would make a damn fine slave concubine for me, one of the proud American Overlords.

Sign me up for the collapse of the Republic!

Nice thinking of yours. I'll remember that and remind you when you next start talking about democracy and freedom :p
 
according to the experience, most of the attacks on airplanes were commited by Arabs. It isn't entirely irrational to suspect them.
But considering the rate in which such attacks occur, it's irrational to suspect them at all.
 
America could take Europe if Britian remained on our side. (Assuming we be total asses again and go with a preemptive strike.) By take I mean defeat in battle not occupy.
 
America could take Europe if Britian remained on our side. (Assuming we be total asses again and go with a preemptive strike.) By take I mean defeat in battle not occupy.

Wishful thinking. We had this discussion many times before, and the only rational conclusion was that the US wouldn't be able to transport enough troops to defeat the conventional forces in mainland Europe.

And even British wouldn't be so stupid to join the US in something like this.
 
How, exactly, have the terrorists "won"????

People have always been paranoid and stupid. Racism? Nothing new there either, that idea was invented at least three thousand years ago. Except that three thousand years ago, our two Arabic-speaking passengers wouldn't have been detained for speaking Arabic on a plane.

They would have been put to death.

The real truth is, humans are getting nicer over time, rather than nastier.

So, I put it to you, NC: you can't say "the terrorists have won" because nothing significant has changed that "the terrorists" could call a "win".

Your witness.
The terrorists win when people are so filled with terror they flip, because they saw an Arab dude. If this happened 3,000 years ago then that's sad, but they still won. At least by the only measure they could win by, filling us with fear, an paranoia. Everyone except a few hyper-Conservatives know the terrorists can't possibly win in a military sense...
 
* Starlin, Hilter, PolPot etc etc not included
On the contrary, FF--I took all of those scumbags into consideration. As you go backwards into history, humans get worse and worse. Not entirely in a linear fashion, of course--wholesale slaughter of entire civilizations is something that happens in fits and starts.
 
The terrorists win when people are so filled with terror they flip
How's this a win??? When your people are treated worse rather than better, tha's called LOSING. When you blow up the World Trade Center in defense of Arab civilization and TWO ARAB COUNTRIES get bulldozed......

THAT IS CALLED LOSING.


Everyone except a few hyper-Conservatives know the terrorists can't possibly win in a military sense...
Now that, NC, is right on the money. :goodjob:
 
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