"Don't Cry for me Argentina!"

[Sonereal]

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[NAME:carp:carp:carp]
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[LARGE_ROAMING]
[AQUATIC][UNDERSWIM][IMMOBILE_LAND]
[MODVALUE:3]
[GENPOWER:3]
[PREFSTRING:fearsome bite]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:5:10]
[BENIGN][MEANDERER][NATURAL]
[PETVALUE:50]
[NOPAIN][NOFEAR][NOEMOTION]
[BODY:BASIC_2PARTBODY:BASIC_HEAD:SIDE_FINS:DORSAL_FIN:TAIL:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:20:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SECOND:BYTOKEN:TAIL:slap:slaps:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
[SIZE:3]
[MAXAGE:20:30]
[NO_DRINK]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:carp fry:carp fry]
[FAT:1]
[BIOME:RIVER_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]
[BIOME:RIVER_TROPICAL_FRESHWATER]
[BIOME:LAKE_TEMPERATE_FRESHWATER]
[BIOME:LAKE_TROPICAL_FRESHWATER]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:500]
[SPHERE:WAR]
[SPHERE:DEATH]

 

[gay_Aleks]

Have you considered joining the C2C mod team

 

[Double A]

that's probably dorf fort code

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

@Civ'ed IT HAPPENED

 

[Double A]

Hi, I'm THERVERLD and I enjoy liking posts that were written 5 years old, pillaging monasteries, and hatesex with Tany.

 

[Thorvald of Lym]

Hey, if it's a bother, I can unlike them...

 

[Omega124]

I appreciate you liking my old posts thor

 

[NinjaCow64]

 

[Crezth]

Hi, I'm THERVERLD and I enjoy liking posts that were written 5 years old, pillaging monasteries, and hatesex with Tany.

Thor confirmed for bot

 

[Tee Kay]

Hi, I'm THERVERLD and I enjoy liking posts that were written 5 years old, pillaging monasteries, and hatesex with Tany.

Who doesn't?

 

[SouthernKing]

I have no phone and a malfunctioning laptop charger so if I disappear for a few days that is why.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Attention citizens: due to a high degree of the Lost and XCOM terrorists present we of ADVENT will ensure you that we will protect you with increase troop presense, including purifiers to keep the Lost down.

We thank you for your co-operation. Remember: only together can we build a better tomorrow!

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Does this map intrigue you?

Right now I'm moderating a game called 'The Grandest Tale Ever Told', AKA MigratioNES. Rather than playing as individual nations, we're playing as cultures. At the timescales the game's running at right now, nations are fairly ephemeral, here and gone within a single update. Right now, the most advanced cultures are working bronze, building chariots and constructing great walled cities, and agriculture is now widespread across two continents.

Players submit technological and cultural developments developments in the thread as their orders, directing the movement of peoples and major historical trends.

My goal is to ultimately progress the game through beyond our modern age, until we hit some kind of 'end of history' where modeling this world in terms of moving culture groups on a map ceases to make sense.

If you're interested, definitely drop by, give it a look, ask any questions you have here or in the game thread. I'd be very grateful for submissions!

 

[Crezth]

Does this map intrigue you?

Right now I'm moderating a game called 'The Grandest Tale Ever Told', AKA MigratioNES. Rather than playing as individual nations, we're playing as cultures. At the timescales the game's running at right now, nations are fairly ephemeral, here and gone within a single update. Right now, the most advanced cultures are working bronze, building chariots and constructing great walled cities, and agriculture is now widespread across two continents.

I just want to comment on all the ways this map does not intrigue me.

First of all, the first thing that comes to mind is the event in NK's game where an entire city was eaten by Prince Thlayli's soldiers, and everyone moreorless acknowledged this was historical and very cool, because stupid peasants being eaten by the rich and/or soldiers appeals to everyone in the NES demographic. That may or may not have much to do with this map per se, but it's just a heads-up for anyone who finds themselves in the midst of NESers that they consider cannibalism a positive and progressive solution to the problems nations' face, especially at the cost of other NESers.

Secondly, the map takes forever to load. I can feel the fun trickling down my urethra second by second.

The border of the western continent looks fake. I can tell you used the brush tool to touch it up. I assume the places of partial opacity indicate places where there are marshlands? Or is that just an artifact of how ugly the map is? Either way, eugh.

The great lakes in the east bear weirdly no relation to the actual great lakes that I know they're modeled on, for no reason any less than that there is no St. Lawrence river basin. So I assume therefore they're just inland basins. I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas but as a hint, it'd be as prosperous as the Caspian, which is to say not very prosperous at all.

Overall it looks like just another cradle map and I'm so glad NES has been so hard at work on this. I recommend NESers stick to D&D games which they know they're good at.

 

[JohannaK]

Oh, c'mon, you can be less of a dick about it. Though I'll agree that the mass cannibalism is pretty scary.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Speaking of cannibalism has anyone played Tooth and Tail? I have not at this stage but it looks of intrigue.

 

[dragonprobably]

Hey guys, I'm back.

I wanted to host a game again and want to know: would you guys be interested in a movie based IOT using mechanics I stole from this?

 

[Luckymoose]

Don't cut yourself on that edge, Crezth.

 

[North King]

I just want to comment on all the ways this map does not intrigue me.

First of all, the first thing that comes to mind is the event in NK's game where an entire city was eaten by Prince Thlayli's soldiers, and everyone moreorless acknowledged this was historical and very cool, because stupid peasants being eaten by the rich and/or soldiers appeals to everyone in the NES demographic. That may or may not have much to do with this map per se, but it's just a heads-up for anyone who finds themselves in the midst of NESers that they consider cannibalism a positive and progressive solution to the problems nations' face, especially at the cost of other NESers.

Secondly, the map takes forever to load. I can feel the fun trickling down my urethra second by second.

The border of the western continent looks fake. I can tell you used the brush tool to touch it up. I assume the places of partial opacity indicate places where there are marshlands? Or is that just an artifact of how ugly the map is? Either way, eugh.

The great lakes in the east bear weirdly no relation to the actual great lakes that I know they're modeled on, for no reason any less than that there is no St. Lawrence river basin. So I assume therefore they're just inland basins. I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas but as a hint, it'd be as prosperous as the Caspian, which is to say not very prosperous at all.

Overall it looks like just another cradle map and I'm so glad NES has been so hard at work on this. I recommend NESers stick to D&D games which they know they're good at.

I wouldn't normally bother with such an obvious troll, but Iggy's a nice guy and you're being a cock, so:

I just want to comment on all the ways this map does not intrigue me.

First of all, the first thing that comes to mind is the event in NK's game where an entire city was eaten by Prince Thlayli's soldiers, and everyone moreorless acknowledged this was historical and very cool, because stupid peasants being eaten by the rich and/or soldiers appeals to everyone in the NES demographic. That may or may not have much to do with this map per se, but it's just a heads-up for anyone who finds themselves in the midst of NESers that they consider cannibalism a positive and progressive solution to the problems nations' face, especially at the cost of other NESers.

Yes, we all applauded that update. In fact, everyone crowned Thlayli king of the NESers that day, and that is why he has such a large cult following to this day! You definitely didn't ignore all of the consternation, and the debates, and the fact that EoE updates were always written "from the perspective of the actors" and therefore always had an agenda and a specific viewpoint, nor that the "Feast of Kargan" you quote was possibly a mythologized event that didn't really bear resemblance to what was going on, nor that it was in an update titled "Nightmare" which should probably suggest to you how seriously we take cannibalism as a strategy for statecraft, nor that Thlayli's people are basically a commentary on the barbarism of wargaming. You did all the research, and I am thoroughly impressed. /patpat

I just want to comment on all the ways this map does not intrigue me.

First of all, the first thing that comes to mind is the event in NK's game where an entire city was eaten by Prince Thlayli's soldiers, and everyone moreorless acknowledged this was historical and very cool, because stupid peasants being eaten by the rich and/or soldiers appeals to everyone in the NES demographic. That may or may not have much to do with this map per se, but it's just a heads-up for anyone who finds themselves in the midst of NESers that they consider cannibalism a positive and progressive solution to the problems nations' face, especially at the cost of other NESers.

You should probably bear in mind that different NESes are different! I know that's hard to grasp, but it's sort of like how Iggy's one person and I'm another person!

So, no, it has no bearing on this.

I just want to comment on all the ways this map does not intrigue me.

First of all, the first thing that comes to mind is the event in NK's game where an entire city was eaten by Prince Thlayli's soldiers, and everyone moreorless acknowledged this was historical and very cool, because stupid peasants being eaten by the rich and/or soldiers appeals to everyone in the NES demographic. That may or may not have much to do with this map per se, but it's just a heads-up for anyone who finds themselves in the midst of NESers that they consider cannibalism a positive and progressive solution to the problems nations' face, especially at the cost of other NESers.

Hold on, what about the face belong to multiple nations? This could be important!

Secondly, the map takes forever to load. I can feel the fun trickling down my urethra second by second.

This is a totally valid critique to make! In 1995. My download time for this on my 35 mbps connection is faster than my ability to tab over to it. You must either have **** internet, OR a surprisingly short urethra.

The border of the western continent looks fake. I can tell you used the brush tool to touch it up. I assume the places of partial opacity indicate places where there are marshlands? Or is that just an artifact of how ugly the map is? Either way, eugh.

I see you are unfamiliar with the idea of a "shroud of war" that blurs at the edge. Please direct your attention to these games as part of your research assignment.

The great lakes in the east bear weirdly no relation to the actual great lakes that I know they're modeled on, for no reason any less than that there is no St. Lawrence river basin. So I assume therefore they're just inland basins. I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas but as a hint, it'd be as prosperous as the Caspian, which is to say not very prosperous at all.

You think that's modeled on the Great Lakes? How... interesting a thought. Given that it's clearly labeled as a sea! So maybe it's saltwater...

The great lakes in the east bear weirdly no relation to the actual great lakes that I know they're modeled on, for no reason any less than that there is no St. Lawrence river basin. So I assume therefore they're just inland basins. I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas but as a hint, it'd be as prosperous as the Caspian, which is to say not very prosperous at all.

Wait, an alternate world has DIFFERENT LANDFORMS than Earth? God forbid!

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Thank god you're here to help.

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

That's also true of industrialization, war, economics, the environment, and earth's history in general. Someone call the mods, because Crezth has shown us that we need to SHUT IOT DOWN before someone incorrectly speculates on such things!

(Also the internet)

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Hmm, Iggy actually does have the credentials to speculate about the ecological dimensions of such a sea...

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

So do the various people who have historical credentials here...

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

As do the various people who have actually arsed themselves into worldbuilding for the last decade or so...

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

You might be interested to note that such basins actually did exist in Earth's history!

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

You might be interested to note that such basins have a wealth of ecological, cultural, and political data published on them.

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lake+lahontan

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mediterranean+salinity+crisis

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lake+victoria

and even

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=caspian+sea

It's like you can do research or something!

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Per various professional historians, all "alternate histories" are fraught with problems of historical evidence and argumentation. It's almost like making them is never going to be "correct!"

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Per other various professional historians, "alternate histories" are an interesting way of thinking through real-world events, so it's actually a valuable exercise to think through how such basins might function in a socio-enviro-cultural sense!

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

It's too bad some dumbass walked in five words later and started speculating about such seas with AUTHORITY! You should talk to them.

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Thank god I have all this aloe for that SICK BURN

I don't think anyone here has the expertise to correctly speculate about such seas

Also if you bothered to do even a second's worth of effort you'd realize that the density of the dots is such that it's not actually even an important part of the map right now. So maybe your Caspian Sea Correct Speculation is actually what Iggy might be going with!

Overall it looks like just another cradle map and I'm so glad NES has been so hard at work on this. I recommend NESers stick to D&D games which they know they're good at.

Yes, our collective efforts have been feverish to bring this map to you. Overall this looks like just another troll post and I'm so glad that humanity has been so hard at work on this. I recommend humans stick to cat pics which they know they're good at.

 

[North King]

tl;dr: Those of you who enjoy doing stuff with human migrations or "having fun" should come check the game out. Iggy's a lovely guy, much nicer than me, and it's quite interesting.