"Not ok with it?"
You think through what you're essentially asking for, here? Were you the one risking taking a bullet?
i'm not okay with preferential treatment. i do not ask that people take undue risk, and that includes if the person presenting it is supposedly special for whatever reason.
Two men charged with plotting abduction of Gov Gretchen Whitmer were acquitted and 2 other cases ended in mistrials.
this is a big part of why i don't trust fbi/government claims about other recent events. there were more fbi agents involved in that plotting than normal citizens, including all the heavy lifting when it came to coming up with how the "kidnapping" would happen, weapons procurement etc. it was an fbi plot outright, and correctly concluded as entrapment.
of course, that won't help the poor fool who plead guilty to a fake charge, likely out of fear. also why i don't assign perfect credibility to guilty pleas.
So he had in your words "possession" of a taser (a non lethal weapon)
police, victims, criminals, and news organizations alike all seem to have a rather selective memory of whether or not tasers are "lethal". police will simultaneously claim they are or aren't, depending on who has them. criminals and victims will both do that as well etc.
however, getting incapacitated/made helpless by someone who is fighting you is imminent risk of severe harm (and possibly death) per se'.
How in the world could he have used that taser? I don't think he could have
stick it anywhere within reach on the cop and pull the trigger?
He, the policeman, escalated at each turn 1
too much bias. both escalated. the first thing lyoya did was jump out of the car and remain out against instruction. this led to the false claim above that the officer asked him to do that, when in fact it was the opposite. immediate escalation.
attempting to run is also escalation, obviously. tackling the person too. then fighting to stand back up and break free. then pulling the taser, then grabbing the taser. all escalations.
Also I read and could be wrong that the kid was pushing the taser away from himself in an attempt to not get shot with it.
when they were standing, yes. don't think this guy is a "kid"?
Aside from resisting he did not hit or strike the officer or have a deadly weapon.
once they were on the ground, it seems lyoya managed to get the taser out of the cop's hand entirely. maybe i misinterpreted the footage, but i don't think the cop could have grabbed his pistol the way he did otherwise.
Also, don't get too bunched up about it he won't be charged
my original complaint was the fake news/propaganda in reporting the incident. you can see evidence of that even in this thread, with posters claiming "he did not have a taser" or that the officer instructed him to get out of the vehicle. both objectively false statements, and with causal linkage to protests/throwing crap at officers over it.
in the other thread, i compared this to the harm done by jones/infowars, and questioned how if infowars is liable for insensitive false comments, how can media organizations that falsely claim lyoya was shot as an unarmed black man not be sued into the ground? the ostensible reason in both cases must be that lies cased harm/damages, but it's not obvious to me how the lyoya fake news is less damaging than the infowars fake news, in fact it seems to be more so.
nd furthermore,
I don't think execution is warranted for resisting arrest
lyoya was not shot until after he had possession of the taser. you might not think that threat sufficient, but it was a threat.
ideally, officer doesn't need to pull taser at all. a better officer would either successfully subdue him rather than whatever the heck that attempt was, or stall until help arrived.
speaking of which, i'm kind of amazed at how bad the officer and lyoya were in the struggle from a technical sense on watching video again. i've seen many high school wrestlers that would a) trivially subdue lyoya while being smaller than the officer and b) would have no trouble disengaging from what the officer did and starting to run on foot again. i know it's easy to armchair evaluate this stuff compared to doing it yourself. i know that darned well in fact. but this was pretty bad. i observed two amateurs, and would expect at least one of them not to be.
however, taser was within legal rights, and that was a good time to stop fighting. lyoya was shot because he took the taser by force. you can call that an "execution" if you want, but it doesn't make it so.
