Effeminate man rejected from donating blood

[Arakhor]

I'm talking about basic human anatomy, not my opinion.

Funnily enough, the creation story isn't 'basic human anatomy'. Let's stick to the main story, shall we?

 

[Tani Coyote]

Sounds like you're more concerned with social justice than the health and well-being of those receiving donated blood.

No, I'm just saying, if I don't have HIV, I should not be denied for being gay.

And as was said, heterosexuals who engage in MSM activity could lie as well.

So where does this leave us?

When was the last time a man impregnated a man? When was the last time a women impregnated a women? God created Adam so that he can fertilize an egg of Eve.

Thankfully, with science, this is irrelevant.

It is possible for gay individuals to have children with the DNA of both parents thanks to science, though the tech is still in development and will take a while to be affordable.

Sure, it's not natural to tamper with genetics... but neither is it natural to use a computer. Also, pre-fertilised genetic material is not life, otherwise ordinary sex is mass murder with one survivor.

 

[JollyRoger]

Cause and effect. Unnatural sex = more prone to STDs.

I am less likely to get an STD when I am taking precautions against procreation.

 

[GamezRule]

What happens when somebody walks in who is gay and donates blood, and doesn't tell anybody? Not every homosexual male in the universe "appears" gay.

 

[Tani Coyote]

What happens when somebody walks in who is gay and donates blood, and doesn't tell anybody? Not every homosexual male in the universe "appears" gay.

Indeed, the whole thing seems to run on an "Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Which is ripe for disaster. So long as you don't look like a stereotype and are a good liar, you can donate away.

Sure, they can screen them... but why not do that for everyone to begin with then? That whole three weeks thing... it'll apply either way anyway.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Homosexuals have special powers?

They have special blood apparently, so I assume they have special powers. Maybe I'd get the ability to discern color better, seeing into the ultraviolet spectrum, and knowing what mauve is.

 

[JollyRoger]

Homosexuals have special powers?

They can destroy a straight marriage with the flick of a wrist.

 

[useless]

They can destroy a straight marriage with the flick of a wrist.

Oh and corrupt and "recruit" children.

 

[JollyRoger]

Oh and corrupt and "recruit" children.

And cause a straight soldier to have gay rape fantasies while showering.

 

[useless]

And cause a straight soldier to have gay rape fantasies while showering.

And destroy culture as we know it.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Blood isn't the only human substance that many people are homophobic about:

Discrimination Against Gay Egg and Sperm Donors

Sure, gay and lesbian people can’t make children with their partners, but they can technically make children. No, I’m not talking about closeted gay people who marry and start a family. I’m talking about egg and sperm donation.

Unfortunately, it’s much harder for gay men to donate sperm and lesbians to donate eggs than it is for their heterosexual counterparts. This is especially troubling since people within the LGBT community often are the ones using sperm and egg donors in order to have children.

An FDA policy encourages sperm banks not to accept sperm donations from men who have sex with men. The policy is discriminatory, and based on the idea that gay men will transmit HIV through their sperm. Sperm banks already screen donors for HIV and there is no documented case of donated sperm resulting in HIV transmission. Sperm banks already routinely freeze sperm donations for more than six months before insemination, and donors are tested for HIV and other diseases. Basically, the risk of HIV infection is near zero, whether the donor is gay, straight, or bisexual.

A previous employee at an egg donation agency provided some sad commentary on lesbian and bisexual egg donors: “Lesbians never made it through. Bisexuals sometimes did, but we had to tell the parent about the donor’s sexuality. I guess it was the whole gay gene thing. Which science has not concluded. But it was also thought that the parents just wouldn’t choose gay donors.”

Blood donors aren’t the only donors subject to homophobic policies and discrimination. Potential egg and sperm donors are regularly discriminated against based on their sexual orientation, regardless of the obvious lack of reasoning behind this discrimination.

Is it really surprising given how long it took the US and other countries to accept black blood donors?

 

[innonimatu]

Yes but how can we ensure that a gay man has not had sex, and how can we prevent hordes of sexually active gay man claiming they are virgins?

The same way you can prevent a "horde" of gay men from claiming they are heterossexual.

Hint for the idiots: you can't! That's the point. It's security theater.

 

[MobBoss]

There is nothing wrong with gay blood. The worldwide rates for AIDS are much more balanced then the western rates, anyway.

Do you include Africa in that worldwide rate?

I mean.....wow.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

The same way you can prevent a "horde" of gay men from claiming they are heterossexual.

Hint for the idiots: you can't! That's the point. It's security theater.

Use the gaydar

 

[useless]

Do you include Africa in that worldwide rate?

I mean.....wow.

Are you saying it's Homosexuals in Africa, not Heterosexuals refusing to use Condoms, that are spreading aids in Africa?

 

[MobBoss]

Probably depends on who is drawing the blood.

I've never seen or heard of anyone rejected from a donation, at all, on the spot. It's probably a rare event.

I donate blood often as I get called to donate all the time. I also have given to no less than three entirely different organizations locally, and at different office locations for each organization. Every, single, time I have given blood, no matter the location, or company that does it, I have been asked the question 'have I ever had sex with another man'.

As to someone being rejected right on the spot, it is uncommon, but i've seen it before. In fact, not long ago when a group of us went, a woman that went with us got rejected for low iron in her blood.

Pointless policy. People can and do lie about their private affairs.

The reason they do have the ban in place, and pre-screen verbally and in writing is precisely because people do lie and this is important. So, its not pointless at all.

Are you saying it's Homosexuals in Africa, not Heterosexuals refusing to use Condoms, that are spreading aids in Africa?

I didnt say either, but was referencing the aids problems there.

Where have I ever said HIV/AIDs was a gay only issue? Its not, so please, just stop.

 

[civ_king]

I didn't realise Lesbians were more likely to catch aids than Heterosexual couples! Here's a hint: They aren't.

And that simply isn't true.

Civ_king: Any citations for that wild number?

The CDC, OTOH there is a link from the FDA saying depending on what you are comparing it ti the multiple is as high as 2000 times

No, I'm just saying, if I don't have HIV, I should not be denied for being gay.

And as was said, heterosexuals who engage in MSM activity could lie as well.

So where does this leave us?



Thankfully, with science, this is irrelevant.

It is possible for gay individuals to have children with the DNA of both parents thanks to science, though the tech is still in development and will take a while to be affordable.

Sure, it's not natural to tamper with genetics... but neither is it natural to use a computer. Also, pre-fertilised genetic material is not life, otherwise ordinary sex is mass murder with one survivor.

You wont be, the question is about if you have had sex with a man.

a computer isn't a perversion of nature, that is

 

[Arakhor]

You're being amazingly selective, Civking.

 

[civ_king]

You're being amazingly selective, Civking.

as high as
Also the FDA's general number is 60 times which is higher than 40 times (AFAIK) so my point rests.

 

[Arakhor]

I was referring to the section on computers, as you probably well know.