Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

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lmao at the not capable of any other system... Capitalism in its current form has only been around for a couple of hundred years... but yes, human culture must change, or we will all die. "I am inevitable", says Das Capital.

Traditional market economies have existed for thousands of years along with slavery and land tenure to compliment them. International finance & industrial capital is just slavery (we have little sweat shop kids slave away for virtually nothing in China/Bangladesh) and land tenure (we have rentier systems still in place especially with housing) without the need for clear cut nations/empires like the old days.

Therefore the current system is perfectly natural to human nature, the only thing missing now is a lack of national and now religious belonging. These two used to also be part of the natural human experience but are now gone. Therefore we are in a cultural transformation right now with humans looking for ideologies and belief systems which are surrogates to religious belief and patriotism such as belonging to a nation or tribe.
 
Traditional market economies have existed for thousands of years along with slavery and land tenure to compliment them. International finance & industrial capital is just slavery (we have little sweat shop kids slave away for virtually nothing in China/Bangladesh) and land tenure (we have rentier systems still in place especially with housing) without the need for clear cut nations/empires like the old days.

Therefore the current system is perfectly natural to human nature, the only thing missing now is a lack of national and now religious belonging. These two used to also be part of the natural human experience but are now gone. Therefore we are in a cultural transformation right now with humans looking for ideologies and belief systems which are surrogates to religious belief and patriotism such as belonging to a nation or tribe.
Market = Exchange
Capitalism = Legal Status of Property
 
Traditional market economies have existed for thousands of years along with slavery and land tenure to compliment them. International finance & industrial capital is just slavery (we have little sweat shop kids slave away for virtually nothing in China/Bangladesh) and land tenure (we have rentier systems still in place especially with housing) without the need for clear cut nations/empires like the old days.

Therefore the current system is perfectly natural to human nature, the only thing missing now is a lack of national and now religious belonging. These two used to also be part of the natural human experience but are now gone. Therefore we are in a cultural transformation right now with humans looking for ideologies and belief systems which are surrogates to religious belief and patriotism such as belonging to a nation or tribe.
Markets do not make capitalism... trade is not capitalism...

I agree the world is in flux.
 
I thought in medieval times you could just walk in the castle and remind the king private property hadn't been invited yet?

"My dear heinous I don't mean to intrude but umm, it turns out after all that property doesn't exist and I'm a free peasant so I don't need to be taxed!"
 
It's almost as though there are other words that danjuno wrote that you completely ignored. Genius move. Very bigly. Narz too.

He makes it seem like there's this new thing called property law that defines capitalism. As though property law hasn't existed in the Middle Ages or before. What else does he mean by legal status of property?
 
lmao at the not capable of any other system... Capitalism in its current form has only been around for a couple of hundred years... but yes, human culture must change, or we will all die. "I am inevitable", says Das Capital.
It's the latter part that I would focus on.

Don't think humans are gonna change culture without first changing themselves. I'm not even sure I mean morally. I'm more deterministic than most people are, philosophically. Constrained, limited free will. Removing the constraints would almost surely be necessary and that would take genetic editing I would imagine.

An argument capitalism is inevitable is really just recognition that in the current set of technological circumstances mixed with what humanity really is, it seems like a pretty natural thing, fastest. Those could change and bring in space feudalism at some point? But that wouldn't be as cooperative as what you're looking for by the sounds of things, not close. For a more cooperative system I think you'd really actually need to change the people.

Aware that's a bleak view of humanity but I can't observe the world and honestly conclude otherwise. Saints are a minority.
 
Our education system teaches us that capitalism IS markets, trade IS capitalism.
@Joij21

Well my history books teach me that the US civil war was about states rights and the power of the federal government... or that the Korean War (still ongoing btw) was because of Soviet incursions at the time.... Our textbooks are full of propaganda or just plain stupidity.,,

I think you are aware of all this, so yea, your education system failed you.
 
It's the latter part that I would focus on.

Don't think humans are gonna change culture without first changing themselves. I'm not even sure I mean morally. I'm more deterministic than most people are, philosophically. Constrained, limited free will. Removing the constraints would almost surely be necessary and that would take genetic editing I would imagine.

An argument capitalism is inevitable is really just recognition that in the current set of technological circumstances mixed with what humanity really is, it seems like a pretty natural thing, fastest. Those could change and bring in space feudalism at some point? But that wouldn't be as cooperative as what you're looking for by the sounds of things, not close. For a more cooperative system I think you'd really actually need to change the people.

Aware that's a bleak view of humanity but I can't observe the world and honestly conclude otherwise. Saints are a minority.
This is the first problem, the inability to question why... why do you even believe this about humanity? why have you been conditioned to believe it? who benefits? why would they spread this attitude and promote the worst of its effects?

The inevitability comment was in regard to the inevitable conclusion that the economic system we are running now (basically greed for greed's sake) will end in civilizational collapse at best and extinction of humans at worst. I was referencing the Thanos line of "I am inevitable" as he would lecture the universe on why he had to cull half of all living things in the universe... capitalism brings you to similar conclusions... you are seeing this play out in front of our eyes right now, as the nations that have the resources, are all planning on a world that requires "culling" of one sort of another. The Pentagon itself has been lecturing Congress in the US about the reality of this for at least fifteen years. It is what they mean when they state climate change is the USs' primary concern for the 21st century and likely the 22nd as well.

You do not need to be a Saint for the realization that greed is bad, always. That we should restructure our society away from incentivizing greed... rational logic will get you there you can leave morals on the floor.
 
This is the first problem, the inability to question why... why do you even believe this about humanity? why have you been conditioned to believe it?
I have asked myself these questions at various points.

There are many answers. I think influential to me is the sneaking suspicion that it's an instinctual thing descending from certainty of parentage. I think in most great apes, there's a disparity in affection towards offspring and females favor males with access to more resources. Creates incentives that don't lead to cooperation.

If hoarding resources is advantageous(see where we apply loser, disproportionately applied to men, by some ways), competition rather than cooperation is almost inescapable.

Maybe that'll change, at some point? Not seeing it on the ground, though. I mentioned itt that I ride a bicycle for any journey less than 60 miles. There have been years I didn't own a car consequently. Major difference in how people treat me. From weirdo loser to respectable man all over a 5k investment I use maybe once a year go see a Browns game in Cleveland.
 
Another data point, another complete absence of "identity politics" as a causitive factor.

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I have asked myself these questions at various points.

There are many answers. I think influential to me is the sneaking suspicion that it's an instinctual thing descending from certainty of parentage. I think in most great apes, there's a disparity in affection towards offspring and females favor males with access to more resources. Creates incentives that don't lead to cooperation.

If hoarding resources is advantageous(see where we apply loser, disproportionately applied to men, by some ways), competition rather than cooperation is almost inescapable.

Maybe that'll change, at some point? Not seeing it on the ground, though. I mentioned itt that I ride a bicycle for any journey less than 60 miles. There have been years I didn't own a car consequently. Major difference in how people treat me. From weirdo loser to respectable man all over a 5k investment I use maybe once a year go see a Browns game in Cleveland.
Humans literally created social structures to stop those very same kinds of abuses, I'm not allowed to go to my neighbor's house and tell him he has to sell me his computer or I'm going to burn his house down, so why do we let nation states behave in this manner?

(fwiw I've thought of this too, others have as well, that very fact should indicate our rationality leads us to better behavior than this garbage)
 
(fwiw I've thought of this too, others have as well, that very fact should indicate our rationality leads us to better behavior than this garbage)
Greed and ego trumps (!) rationality.
 
Humans literally created social structures to stop those very same kinds of abuses, I'm not allowed to go to my neighbor's house and tell him he has to sell me his computer or I'm going to burn his house down, so why do we let nation states behave in this manner?

(fwiw I've thought of this too, others have as well, that very fact should indicate our rationality leads us to better behavior than this garbage)
We let nation states behave in said manner because might makes right. Its a truth that has played out for millennia. Most humans are essentially insane.

The collective manifestations of the insanity that lies at the heart of the human condition constitute the greater part of human history. It is to a large extent a history of madness. If the history of humanity were the clinical case history of a single human being, the diagnosis would have to be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals. Ekhart Tolle: A New Earth
Spoiler Full Text :

If we look more deeply into humanity’s ancient religions and spiritual traditions, we will find that underneath the many surface differences there are two core insights that most of them agree on. The words they use to describe those insights differ, yet they all point to a twofold fundamental truth. The first part of this truth is the realization that the “normal” state of mind of most human beings contains a strong element of what we might call dysfunction or even madness. Certain teachings at the heart of Hinduism perhaps come closest to seeing this dysfunction as a form of collective mental illness. They call it maya, the veil of delusion. Ramana Maharshi, one of the greatest Indian sages, bluntly states: “The mind is maya.”
Buddhism uses different terms. According to the Buddha, the human mind in its normal state generates “dukkha”, which can be translated as suffering, unsatisfactoriness, or just plain misery. He sees it as a characteristic of the human condition. Wherever you go, whatever you do, says the Buddha, you will encounter dukkha, and it will manifest in every situation sooner or later.
According to Christian teachings, the normal collective state of humanity is one of “original sin.” Sin is a word that has been greatly misunderstood and misinterpreted. Literally translated from the ancient Greek in which the New Testament was written, to sin means to miss the mark, as an archer who misses the target, so to sin means to miss the point of human existence. It means to live unskillfully, blindly, and thus to suffer and cause suffering. Again, the term, stripped of its cultural baggage and misinterpretations, points to the dysfunction inherent in the human condition.
The achievements of humanity are impressive and undeniable. We have created sublime works of music, literature, painting, architecture, and sculpture. More recently, science and technology have brought about radical changes in the way we live and have enabled us to do and create things that would have been considered miraculous even two hundred years ago. No doubt: The human mind is highly intelligent. Yet its very intelligence is tainted by madness. Science and technology have magnified the destructive impact that the dysfunction of the human mind has upon the planet, other lifeforms, and upon humans themselves. That is why the history of the twentieth century is where that dysfunction, that collective insanity, can be most clearly recognized. A further factor is that this dysfunction is actually intensifying and accelerating.
The First World War broke out in 1914. Destructive and cruel wars, motivated by fear, greed, and the desire for power, had been common occurrences throughout human history, as had slavery, torture, and widespread violence inflicted for religious and ideological reasons. Humans suffered more at the hands of each other than through natural disasters. By the year 1914, however, the highly intelligent human mind had invented not only the internal combustion engine, but also bombs, machine guns, submarines, flame throwers, and poison gas. Intelligence in the service of madness! In static trench warfare in France and Belgium, millions of men perished to gain a few miles of mud. When the war was over in 1918, the survivors look in horror and incomprehension upon the devastation left behind: ten million human beings killed and many more maimed or disfigured. Never before had human madness been so destructive in its effect, so clearly visible. Little did they know that this was only the beginning.
By the end of the century, the number of people who died a violent death at the hand of their fellow humans would rise to more than one hundred million. They died not only through wars between nations, but also through mass exterminations and genocide, such as the murder of twenty million “class enemies, spies, and traitors” in the Soviet Union under Stalin or the unspeakable horrors of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. They also died in countless smaller internal conflicts, such as the Spanish civil war or during the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia when a quarter of that country’s population was murdered.
We only need to watch the daily news on television to realize that the madness has not abated, that is continuing into the twenty-first century. Another aspect of the collective dysfunction of the human mind is the unprecedented violence that humans are inflicting on other lifeforms and the planet itself – the destruction of oxygen producing forests and other plant and animal life; ill-treatment of animals in factory farms; and poisoning of rivers, oceans, and air. Driven by greed, ignorant of their connectedness to the whole, humans persist in behavior that, if continued unchecked, can only result in their own destruction.
The collective manifestations of the insanity that lies at the heart of the human condition constitute the greater part of human history. It is to a large extent a history of madness. If the history of humanity were the clinical case history of a single human being, the diagnosis would have to be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals.

Fear, greed, and the desire for power are the psychological motivating forces not only behind warfare and violence between nations, tribes, religions, and ideologies, but also the cause of incessant conflict in personal relationships. They bring about a distortion in your perception of other people and yourself. Through them, you misinterpret every situation, leading to misguided action designed to rid you of fear and satisfy your need for more, a bottomless hole that can never be filled.

It is important to realize, however, that fear, greed, and the desire for power are not the dysfunction that we are speaking of but are themselves created by the dysfunction which is a deepseated collective delusion that lies within the mind of each human being. A number of spiritual teachings tell us to let go of fear and desire. But those spiritual practices are usually unsuccessful. They haven’t gone to the root of the dysfunction. Fear, greed, and desire for power are not the ultimate causal factors. Trying to become a good or better human being sounds like a commendable and high-minded thing to do, yet it is an endeavor you cannot ultimately succeed in unless there is a shift in consciousness. This is because it is still part of the same dysfunction, a more subtle and rarefied form of self-enhancement, of desire for more and a strengthening of one’s conceptual identity, one’s selfimage. You do not become good by trying to be good, but by finding the goodness that is already within you, and allowing that goodness to emerge. But it can only emerge if something fundamental changes in your state of consciousness.

The history of Communism, originally inspired by noble ideals, clearly illustrates what happens when people attempt to change external reality – create a new earth – without any prior change in their inner reality, their state of consciousness. They make plans without taking into account the blueprint for dysfunction that every human being carries within: the ego.
 
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Greed and ego trumps (!) rationality.
only if you let it young padiwan.

We let nation states behave in said manner because might makes right. Its a truth that has played out for millennia. Most humans are essentially insane.

The collective manifestations of the insanity that lies at the heart of the human condition constitute the greater part of human history. It is to a large extent a history of madness. If the history of humanity were the clinical case history of a single human being, the diagnosis would have to be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals. Ekhart Tolle: A New Earth
Spoiler Full Text :

If we look more deeply into humanity’s ancient religions and spiritual traditions, we will find that underneath the many surface differences there are two core insights that most of them agree on. The words they use to describe those insights differ, yet they all point to a twofold fundamental truth. The first part of this truth is the realization that the “normal” state of mind of most human beings contains a strong element of what we might call dysfunction or even madness. Certain teachings at the heart of Hinduism perhaps come closest to seeing this dysfunction as a form of collective mental illness. They call it maya, the veil of delusion. Ramana Maharshi, one of the greatest Indian sages, bluntly states: “The mind is maya.”
Buddhism uses different terms. According to the Buddha, the human mind in its normal state generates “dukkha”, which can be translated as suffering, unsatisfactoriness, or just plain misery. He sees it as a characteristic of the human condition. Wherever you go, whatever you do, says the Buddha, you will encounter dukkha, and it will manifest in every situation sooner or later.
According to Christian teachings, the normal collective state of humanity is one of “original sin.” Sin is a word that has been greatly misunderstood and misinterpreted. Literally translated from the ancient Greek in which the New Testament was written, to sin means to miss the mark, as an archer who misses the target, so to sin means to miss the point of human existence. It means to live unskillfully, blindly, and thus to suffer and cause suffering. Again, the term, stripped of its cultural baggage and misinterpretations, points to the dysfunction inherent in the human condition.
The achievements of humanity are impressive and undeniable. We have created sublime works of music, literature, painting, architecture, and sculpture. More recently, science and technology have brought about radical changes in the way we live and have enabled us to do and create things that would have been considered miraculous even two hundred years ago. No doubt: The human mind is highly intelligent. Yet its very intelligence is tainted by madness. Science and technology have magnified the destructive impact that the dysfunction of the human mind has upon the planet, other lifeforms, and upon humans themselves. That is why the history of the twentieth century is where that dysfunction, that collective insanity, can be most clearly recognized. A further factor is that this dysfunction is actually intensifying and accelerating.
The First World War broke out in 1914. Destructive and cruel wars, motivated by fear, greed, and the desire for power, had been common occurrences throughout human history, as had slavery, torture, and widespread violence inflicted for religious and ideological reasons. Humans suffered more at the hands of each other than through natural disasters. By the year 1914, however, the highly intelligent human mind had invented not only the internal combustion engine, but also bombs, machine guns, submarines, flame throwers, and poison gas. Intelligence in the service of madness! In static trench warfare in France and Belgium, millions of men perished to gain a few miles of mud. When the war was over in 1918, the survivors look in horror and incomprehension upon the devastation left behind: ten million human beings killed and many more maimed or disfigured. Never before had human madness been so destructive in its effect, so clearly visible. Little did they know that this was only the beginning.
By the end of the century, the number of people who died a violent death at the hand of their fellow humans would rise to more than one hundred million. They died not only through wars between nations, but also through mass exterminations and genocide, such as the murder of twenty million “class enemies, spies, and traitors” in the Soviet Union under Stalin or the unspeakable horrors of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. They also died in countless smaller internal conflicts, such as the Spanish civil war or during the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia when a quarter of that country’s population was murdered.
We only need to watch the daily news on television to realize that the madness has not abated, that is continuing into the twenty-first century. Another aspect of the collective dysfunction of the human mind is the unprecedented violence that humans are inflicting on other lifeforms and the planet itself – the destruction of oxygen producing forests and other plant and animal life; ill-treatment of animals in factory farms; and poisoning of rivers, oceans, and air. Driven by greed, ignorant of their connectedness to the whole, humans persist in behavior that, if continued unchecked, can only result in their own destruction.
The collective manifestations of the insanity that lies at the heart of the human condition constitute the greater part of human history. It is to a large extent a history of madness. If the history of humanity were the clinical case history of a single human being, the diagnosis would have to be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals.

Fear, greed, and the desire for power are the psychological motivating forces not only behind warfare and violence between nations, tribes, religions, and ideologies, but also the cause of incessant conflict in personal relationships. They bring about a distortion in your perception of other people and yourself. Through them, you misinterpret every situation, leading to misguided action designed to rid you of fear and satisfy your need for more, a bottomless hole that can never be filled.

It is important to realize, however, that fear, greed, and the desire for power are not the dysfunction that we are speaking of but are themselves created by the dysfunction which is a deepseated collective delusion that lies within the mind of each human being. A number of spiritual teachings tell us to let go of fear and desire. But those spiritual practices are usually unsuccessful. They haven’t gone to the root of the dysfunction. Fear, greed, and desire for power are not the ultimate causal factors. Trying to become a good or better human being sounds like a commendable and high-minded thing to do, yet it is an endeavor you cannot ultimately succeed in unless there is a shift in consciousness. This is because it is still part of the same dysfunction, a more subtle and rarefied form of self-enhancement, of desire for more and a strengthening of one’s conceptual identity, one’s selfimage. You do not become good by trying to be good, but by finding the goodness that is already within you, and allowing that goodness to emerge. But it can only emerge if something fundamental changes in your state of consciousness.

The history of Communism, originally inspired by noble ideals, clearly illustrates what happens when people attempt to change external reality – create a new earth – without any prior change in their inner reality, their state of consciousness. They make plans without taking into account the blueprint for dysfunction that every human being carries within: the ego.

be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals. Ekhart Tolle: A New Earth
Spoiler Full Text :

If we look more deeply into humanity’s ancient religions and spiritual traditions, we will find that underneath the many surface differences there are two core insights that most of them agree on. The words they use to describe those insights differ, yet they all point to a twofold fundamental truth. The first part of this truth is the realization that the “normal” state of mind of most human beings contains a strong element of what we might call dysfunction or even madness. Certain teachings at the heart of Hinduism perhaps come closest to seeing this dysfunction as a form of collective mental illness. They call it maya, the veil of delusion. Ramana Maharshi, one of the greatest Indian sages, bluntly states: “The mind is maya.”
Buddhism uses different terms. According to the Buddha, the human mind in its normal state generates “dukkha”, which can be translated as suffering, unsatisfactoriness, or just plain misery. He sees it as a characteristic of the human condition. Wherever you go, whatever you do, says the Buddha, you will encounter dukkha, and it will manifest in every situation sooner or later.
According to Christian teachings, the normal collective state of humanity is one of “original sin.” Sin is a word that has been greatly misunderstood and misinterpreted. Literally translated from the ancient Greek in which the New Testament was written, to sin means to miss the mark, as an archer who misses the target, so to sin means to miss the point of human existence. It means to live unskillfully, blindly, and thus to suffer and cause suffering. Again, the term, stripped of its cultural baggage and misinterpretations, points to the dysfunction inherent in the human condition.
The achievements of humanity are impressive and undeniable. We have created sublime works of music, literature, painting, architecture, and sculpture. More recently, science and technology have brought about radical changes in the way we live and have enabled us to do and create things that would have been considered miraculous even two hundred years ago. No doubt: The human mind is highly intelligent. Yet its very intelligence is tainted by madness. Science and technology have magnified the destructive impact that the dysfunction of the human mind has upon the planet, other lifeforms, and upon humans themselves. That is why the history of the twentieth century is where that dysfunction, that collective insanity, can be most clearly recognized. A further factor is that this dysfunction is actually intensifying and accelerating.
The First World War broke out in 1914. Destructive and cruel wars, motivated by fear, greed, and the desire for power, had been common occurrences throughout human history, as had slavery, torture, and widespread violence inflicted for religious and ideological reasons. Humans suffered more at the hands of each other than through natural disasters. By the year 1914, however, the highly intelligent human mind had invented not only the internal combustion engine, but also bombs, machine guns, submarines, flame throwers, and poison gas. Intelligence in the service of madness! In static trench warfare in France and Belgium, millions of men perished to gain a few miles of mud. When the war was over in 1918, the survivors look in horror and incomprehension upon the devastation left behind: ten million human beings killed and many more maimed or disfigured. Never before had human madness been so destructive in its effect, so clearly visible. Little did they know that this was only the beginning.
By the end of the century, the number of people who died a violent death at the hand of their fellow humans would rise to more than one hundred million. They died not only through wars between nations, but also through mass exterminations and genocide, such as the murder of twenty million “class enemies, spies, and traitors” in the Soviet Union under Stalin or the unspeakable horrors of the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. They also died in countless smaller internal conflicts, such as the Spanish civil war or during the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia when a quarter of that country’s population was murdered.
We only need to watch the daily news on television to realize that the madness has not abated, that is continuing into the twenty-first century. Another aspect of the collective dysfunction of the human mind is the unprecedented violence that humans are inflicting on other lifeforms and the planet itself – the destruction of oxygen producing forests and other plant and animal life; ill-treatment of animals in factory farms; and poisoning of rivers, oceans, and air. Driven by greed, ignorant of their connectedness to the whole, humans persist in behavior that, if continued unchecked, can only result in their own destruction.
The collective manifestations of the insanity that lies at the heart of the human condition constitute the greater part of human history. It is to a large extent a history of madness. If the history of humanity were the clinical case history of a single human being, the diagnosis would have to be: chronic paranoid delusions, a pathological propensity to commit murder and acts of extreme violence and cruelty against his perceived “enemies” – his own unconsciousness projected outward. Criminally insane, with a few brief lucid intervals.

Fear, greed, and the desire for power are the psychological motivating forces not only behind warfare and violence between nations, tribes, religions, and ideologies, but also the cause of incessant conflict in personal relationships. They bring about a distortion in your perception of other people and yourself. Through them, you misinterpret every situation, leading to misguided action designed to rid you of fear and satisfy your need for more, a bottomless hole that can never be filled.

It is important to realize, however, that fear, greed, and the desire for power are not the dysfunction that we are speaking of but are themselves created by the dysfunction which is a deepseated collective delusion that lies within the mind of each human being. A number of spiritual teachings tell us to let go of fear and desire. But those spiritual practices are usually unsuccessful. They haven’t gone to the root of the dysfunction. Fear, greed, and desire for power are not the ultimate causal factors. Trying to become a good or better human being sounds like a commendable and high-minded thing to do, yet it is an endeavor you cannot ultimately succeed in unless there is a shift in consciousness. This is because it is still part of the same dysfunction, a more subtle and rarefied form of self-enhancement, of desire for more and a strengthening of one’s conceptual identity, one’s selfimage. You do not become good by trying to be good, but by finding the goodness that is already within you, and allowing that goodness to emerge. But it can only emerge if something fundamental changes in your state of consciousness.

The history of Communism, originally inspired by noble ideals, clearly illustrates what happens when people attempt to change external reality – create a new earth – without any prior change in their inner reality, their state of consciousness. They make plans without taking into account the blueprint for dysfunction that every human being carries within: the ego.
lawls, this is the behavior I'm talking about, you've literally convinced yourself it's okay because our history is similar (that's not universal btw)
 
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