Elian Gonzales: "Castro is like a father to me"

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Quito, Ecuador (CNN) -- One name stands out on the guest list of thousands of youth at a conference in Ecuador this week: Elian Gonzalez.

Fourteen years after he made headlines as the subject of a bitter international custody battle, Gonzalez spoke to CNN on Tuesday.

It's his first trip abroad since the U.S. government removed him at gunpoint from his relatives' home in Miami and, after a legal battle, sent him back to Cuba to live with his father.

Gonzalez, who turned 20 last week, was just 6 years old when he was found clinging to an inner tube after the tiny boat he was traveling in from Cuba sank on the way to the United States. Gonzalez's mother and nine other people in the boat drowned.

He had harsh words for the United States on Tuesday as he recalled his mother's deadly journey.


"Just like her, many others have died attempting to go to the United States. But it's the U.S. government's fault. Their unjust embargo provokes an internal and critical economic situation in Cuba," Gonzalez said.

"But, despite that, Cuba, even with all its problems has progressed over the years. The progress we've made is all thanks to Cuba's courage, our dignity, our continued fight for a more just model."

Gonzalez is in Quito, Ecuador, for the World Festival of Youth and Students, a left-wing conference attracting more than 10,000 people from all over the world to discuss global struggles against imperialism.

He told CNN en Español that he has been asked to speak at the conference, but isn't quite sure what his topic will be.

"My topic could range anywhere from the lifting of the unjust blockade on Cuba to the freedom of the 'Cuban Five.' The main reason we're here is because we want a revolutionary progressive movement that leads to socialism," he said.

The five Cubans imprisoned in the United States are convicted on charges of espionage, but are considered heroes in Cuba because many believe they prevented acts of terrorism on the island.

After his rescue in 1999, Gonzalez was placed with relatives in Miami, who wanted to keep him in the United States.

But Gonzalez's father, Juan Miguel, fought to bring him back to Cuba. Then-Cuban leader Fidel Castro led massive protests in Cuba demanding Gonzalez's return. The case of the telegenic boy became a flashpoint between supporters and opponents of Castro's revolution.

As the two sides fought the high-profile case in court, U.S. immigration officials decided to put Gonzalez in the custody of his father, who had come to the United States to argue for Elian's return. His relatives in Miami refused to go along, and armed U.S. federal agents then raided the home of Gonzalez's uncle and seized the boy.

Some experts at the time worried Gonzalez would suffer a lifetime of trauma as a result of the dispute, or become a political pawn for the Cuban government.

After Gonzalez's return to Cuba, the government there celebrated a political victory but largely kept Gonzalez out of public view and surrounded by government bodyguards.

But the case had an undeniable impact on Gonzalez's life. Fidel Castro attended his 7th birthday party. His father went from being a waiter to being a member of the country's national assembly.

Now he studies engineering at a military school in Cuba and appears to be emerging as a new spokesman for the Cuban government.

When asked by CNN en Español to describe what his life has been like since he left Miami, Gonzalez said "magnificent." In Cuba, he said, everywhere he goes he feels the love and support of his fellow Cubans.

"I haven't suffered any consequences because of what happened. It has not affected me psychologically, but it has been hard for my family," Gonzalez said. "Those were tough times."

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Surprised there is no thread about this. For those who don't remember, Elian Gonzales was a six year old Cuban refugee whose mother drowned attempting the crossing to Miami. His family in America tried to settle him in the US against the wishes of his father living in Cuba. He was eventually repatriated back to Cuba and to his father.
 
He also said if he believed in a God, Fidel Castro would be that God. So yeah, indoctrinated whackadoo kid.

That said, it was the right thing to do to send him back. His mother dead, he belonged with his father.
 
It's difficult to believe that even those who weren't old enough to have watched all this unfold aren't familiar with this incident.

Then:



Now:

 
Forma, please do not use shopped photos in serious threads! As a courtesy, providing the real one.
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Well, Gonzales' life in Cuba indeed sounds quite good!
 
When asked by CNN en Español to describe what his life has been like since he left Miami, Gonzalez said "magnificent." In Cuba, he said, everywhere he goes he feels the love and support of his fellow Cubans.
Not being a typical, average Cuban citizen tends to do that, Mr. Gonzalez.
 
Do you really think being kidnapped by far-right commie-hating Cuban-Americans transformed Elian into a hero of the Cuban people? That he was then destined to lead a superstar existence where he was adored and coddled wherever he went?
 
Pretty much, yeah. The Cuban commie regime used him from day one of return as a propaganda tool. He's been groomed and prepared since his return to become a spokesman.
 
You mean instead of living with his father and growing up just like every other Cuban? That they literally bribed him to think highly of their country so he would speak of it in only glowing terms? That they secreted him away to some posh reeducation camp for the rest of his youth which assured he never learned the truth by merely paying attention to his environment and culture?

Is that what you are suggesting must have occurred, instead of Elian merely feeling proud of his own country much like you do?
 
"Living with his father" and "growing up like every other cuban" should not have been put together. You're trying to create a false image by suggesting it was both of those things instead of just one.
 
Ah. So his father was promoted to owning a sizable portion of the country as a reward for having a child who was kidnapped? That as a result Elian had an entirely different perspective of his country than most any other Cuban?

Do you have any proof this is not a "false image" of your own creation?

Elián González: My time in the U.S. “changed me for life"

On the 14th anniversary of his rescue from a raft in waters off Fort Lauderdale, Elián González said he blames the Cuban Adjustment Act for his mother’s death and the international custody battle it sparked on his behalf.

“Those days were very sad for me, which marked me for life,” González said Monday. “It never gave me the chance to think of my mother, who died at sea as a result of the Cuban Adjustment Act," he said, referring to the 1966 U.S. law that allows any Cuban who reaches the U. S. by any means to be paroled and given residency.

Havana has called the law "murderous" and blamed it for encouraging Cubans to board rickety boats to cross the Florida Straits in the hopes of reaching the U.S. González said he “suffered the consequences of the act.”

But he emphasized that “our struggle is not against the American people; it is against their government.” He said. “From the moment Americans knew of my case, they took to the streets to call for me to be sent back to my country."
Indeed we did. The only people who were really opposed were other right-wing authoritarians.
 
I remember that poor kid - in my mind Elian Gonzales is associated with the astounding Terri Schiavo mess - perhaps because I mentally tagged them both as [FLORIDA]?

I believe, bhsup, that it wasn't Bill Clinton holding the deathstick. You are the one using a 'shopped image. I remember quite clearly it was AG Janet Reno himself leading the raid. :hammer:

[cheap joke, I know :blush:]

EDIT: and why on earth is the xmas smilie for :blush a sleeping santa?? :dunno:
 
I'd wager that if he spoke out against the Cuban regime, bad things would happen to him or his family.

North Koreans spring to mind. They're either indoctrinated enough to think their leader cares about them, or they're too afraid to speak out. After all, who would listen? What justice would arrive? No one and none.

Cuba- same thing.
 
Given the gross abuse of US power at home (Patriot act, NDAA, NSA spying on everything) and abroad (wars), I don't see why you are all talking trash about the Cuban regime. In theory, with all these new laws passed, the USA can basically jail you being a suspected terrorist after viewing all your private information and spying on you with drones, revoke your right to a lawyer, and detain you indefinitely, while probably waterboarding you. At least Cuba's got health care for everybody
 
Given the gross abuse of US power at home (Patriot act, NDAA, NSA spying on everything) and abroad (wars), I don't see why you are all talking trash about the Cuban regime. In theory, with all these new laws passed, the USA can basically jail you being a suspected terrorist after viewing all your private information and spying on you with drones, revoke your right to a lawyer, and detain you indefinitely, while probably waterboarding you. At least Cuba's got health care for everybody

There is no black or white society. USA's flaws do not make Cuba's go away.

Cuba is not a paradise just because they have a public healthcare system. Someone's public comments about a closed, authoritarian society being a good thing do not necessarily reflect their actual viewpoints, nor does it mean they haven't been coerced, have nothing to lose, or haven't been indoctrinated.

There are plenty of reasons to trash the Cuban regime. tu quoque is still not a valid defense, it's tantamount to admitting the Cuban regime has a serious problem, but other governments having problems makes it all okay.

Afraid not.

People risk death all the time to escape from that island, and no amount of access to public medicine erases the reasons why.
 
When few members of a weekly Cuban protest group was arrested and released last year prior to a visit by the Pope, it was deemed to be so newsworthy it was covered by the BBC.

While they certainly don't have the same right to protest as we do, Cuba is no North Korea. Besides Occupy Wall Street protesters were also arrested for merely walking on the sidewalk as these were.
 
When few members of a weekly Cuban protest group was arrested and released last year prior to a visit by the Pope, it was deemed to be so newsworthy it was covered by the BBC.

While they certainly don't have the same right to protest as we do, Cuba is no North Korea. Besides Occupy Wall Street protesters were also arrested for merely walking on the sidewalk as these were.

It's not the same in every way as North Korea- I wasn't attempting to suggest that.

However, in certain ways, closed authoritarian societies always seem to behave the same way toward their people- not allowed to leave, not allowed to protest, can be jailed indefinitely for no reason at all.

Cuba's better, but the less we resemble Cuba, the better.

People will not get me on Cuba's side by pointing out we do some awful things that Cuba does.

That just proves my point- CUBA IS AWFUL and neither country should be like Cuba in the ways mentioned.

I don't endorse all of our policies just because I live here, folks. They wouldn't be policies if we had the spine to get rid of incumbents once in a while. Even if it means voting for a different party once, just to unseat someone. Unthinkable.
 
It does indeed seem that Elian got a special treatment in Cuba so that he can serve as a propaganda instrument both for inside and outside markets for such propaganda.

Half of the posts in the thread mentioned this anyway. The other half were Forma's :)
 
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