Tenochtitlan
Supreme Commander
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It's good to be able to defend one's self, however, "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." -Isaac Asimov
Fighting
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Never been in a fight, but wouldn't rule it out if someone was trespassing etc. Fights in my school are generally won by the rugby props, of which I am not one.
King Flevance
Deity
I see no reason to get hostile until hostility is shown by the opposite party. Not to say I will never take the first hit. More so, if I think you are about to deck me, I am gonna get to it first. Any time I feel someone I feel responsible for or myself about to be assaulted, I will try to strike first. Needless to say, once first strike is given "It's go time!"
I may be wrong in assuming someone elses threat level but that is the risk involved in expressing hostility. Thus, I avoid expressing hostility until I see it.
Also to add, gun toters are ******* IMO that have no balls to fight. Also, I have taken more ass kickings than I have gave out. Some I never even got a hit in, some I never tried. Throughout the course of my life, I have come to the realization that fighting is a neccessary part of life. It will come at a moment's notice, and no one but idiots wish for it. I do not fear a hardcore asswoppin' like I did in my younger days, now. So long as afterwards I am able to know I stood up for what I felt was right... sometimes this can be comprimised by the penalty though. (I am more willing to put up with someone in a hostile situation on a job more than I am at the gas station as being fired is a possible consequence to my actions. Only once have I actually been tempted to hit a co-worker, I didn't possibly because he never came around me at the time of temptation. I will really never know though, nor care anymore.)
I may be wrong in assuming someone elses threat level but that is the risk involved in expressing hostility. Thus, I avoid expressing hostility until I see it.
Also to add, gun toters are ******* IMO that have no balls to fight. Also, I have taken more ass kickings than I have gave out. Some I never even got a hit in, some I never tried. Throughout the course of my life, I have come to the realization that fighting is a neccessary part of life. It will come at a moment's notice, and no one but idiots wish for it. I do not fear a hardcore asswoppin' like I did in my younger days, now. So long as afterwards I am able to know I stood up for what I felt was right... sometimes this can be comprimised by the penalty though. (I am more willing to put up with someone in a hostile situation on a job more than I am at the gas station as being fired is a possible consequence to my actions. Only once have I actually been tempted to hit a co-worker, I didn't possibly because he never came around me at the time of temptation. I will really never know though, nor care anymore.)
Leifmk
Deity
Tenochtitlan said:
Indeed; the competent may use violence before it's too late to do any good. Though indeed most actual violence is done either by incompetents, or at the orders of incompetents.
Seriously, there are some problems to which the effective solution involves violence. I am not altogether a pacifist; I subscribe to a slightly extended idea of self-defence which also includes the duty to defend those who cannot defend themselves. If I were to witness an incident like the time some drunken SOB raped a teenage girl on a subway car full of people and nobody did anything about it it would be "boot to the head"-time. If cornered by an obvious aggressor and finding it unlikely that I'd be able to de-escalate verbally I'd start by kicking him hard in the leg and then give him an elbow upside the head, then proceed to take him down, sidemount and figure-four the hell out of his arm. Or something like that.
That said, I've not been in a fight since the 1980s when I was in middle school. I belong to that size class of guys who generally get left alone, and I've not been in a situation where verbal de-escalation has failed. Most often violence is not necessary and in those cases it would indeed be stupid.
In self defense only, never started a fight and not had one since school, I'm a big fella people don't usually tend to pick fights with me, I'm pretty good at intimidation any way or defusing situations, what ever works, I also have a couple of mates who are 6'7" surprisingly in those situations we never seem to get much trouble 
I used to be a boxer, aiming to become a master in the field of fighting (became pretty advanced, I must say). But, around age 20, I guess my patience for silly things just started to run low, so now I just carry lethal weapons, only to be used if required, for self defence. Anything short of "absolutely required/ no other alternative" - I just don't care what people do or say. They're mostly all a bunch of idiots anyway. I'm looking out for me, myself, and I. Screw 'em.
Sidhe said:Nice Jesus would be proud
I have my agreements with the Lord. I'm more outwardly defensive to the world (which is increasingly necessary nowsdays), whereas I've promised Him I'll fulfill my destiny and be the best husband and father I can possibly be (unlike those that came before me). We've decided what things matter more, than others.
I'm not Jesus. Not so much a "man of the people". Heck, great as He was, look what they did to Him.
I've seen enough. I've learned to be wary of the human race. Sad, yeah - but in philsophy, I subscribe to the "realist" side of things.
funxus
Orange Cycloptic Blob
Never been in a fight, not even close to having to fight, even if I'm generally very naive. I'd guess I somehow manage to get respect (or pity) in other ways, and ditch people quickly if I don't get a good feeling about them.
Only few times I've been hit have been by women while on the piss, not because I was rude to them (as I remember it ), but always sneak attack slaps from behind. Obviously I can't hit back
Only few times I've been hit have been by women while on the piss, not because I was rude to them (as I remember it
), but always sneak attack slaps from behind. Obviously I can't hit backSidhe said:Oh don't mind me I just woke up I'm a little bear like in the AM. I see nothing wrong with carrying a weapon for self defense, just do me a favour try not to shoot to kill, a leg shot should do the trick
Yeah, I'd prefer to complete my life without ever having directly or indirectly killed anyone. So far, so good. But, if it came to kill or BE killed, I certainly wouldn't hesitate.
I don't go looking for trouble, but if it comes to me, I deal with it very... decisively, and without hesitation - probably because I have so little patience for the foolishness people live by. And, I figure if I'm like that, chances are there might be others. All the more reason not to go around randomly messing with someone. You never know who has zero patience for that kind of thing. Personally, if I see someone coming up to me, wanting trouble, as far as I'm concerned, they've forfeited their humanity, their life has just become worthless, and the world would be a better place without them. I guess that's a character flaw I currently have.
I'd be a terrible cop. I'd shoot practically everyone that wanted to cross the line. I just don't have patience for that kind of crap.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
sysyphus said:
Exactly you have never been pushed to the edge.
sysyphus said:
Someone burns your house,you know they did it but you dont have enough evidence and so you cant come after them?WTH man?
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Saying that fighting should be reserved for self-defense and perhaps at the rare occasions for defense of weaker folks.Damn bullies.
Cleric, why are you pulling these very improbable situations out of thin air to justify a desire to fight? How often is someone confronted with a situation like that in "Cape Fear" and so forth?
P.S. - Sysyphus, just what is your avatar? It's looking more and more like an amoeba architect.
P.S. - Sysyphus, just what is your avatar? It's looking more and more like an amoeba architect.
Yeah really, what if a man killed most of your familly then proceeded to boast about it to all the people you know, and then destroyed your life your wealth and left you destitute and then had you framed for child rape where you went to jail for 15 years and where subjected to the most henuious and cruel retribution from inmates.
Then when you got out you find not only was this guy married to your wife - after she divorced you for child abuse and you being scum - but he killed and burried her and your five kids, and then went on a brutal killing spree that coincided with your day of release and again puts you in the picture, and then when you catch up to him in a bar and he tells you he enjoyed watching your wife scream as he brutally tortured her to death: and shows you a series of slide projections of him torturing and mutilating your familly with a dubbed laughter track in the background and then laughs in your face: what then huh?
really most people learn to avoid these sort of situations in the first place, follow the golden rule and you shouldn't find yourself in crappy situations very often anyway.
Then when you got out you find not only was this guy married to your wife - after she divorced you for child abuse and you being scum - but he killed and burried her and your five kids, and then went on a brutal killing spree that coincided with your day of release and again puts you in the picture, and then when you catch up to him in a bar and he tells you he enjoyed watching your wife scream as he brutally tortured her to death: and shows you a series of slide projections of him torturing and mutilating your familly with a dubbed laughter track in the background and then laughs in your face: what then huh?
really most people learn to avoid these sort of situations in the first place, follow the golden rule and you shouldn't find yourself in crappy situations very often anyway.
nonconformist
Miserable
I haven't been in a fight in years.
it reminds me of BarbapapaVRWCAgent said:
anyway On topic: I wholly agree with you two. I've never been into a single fight, and I have been pushed before. I just decided not to stoop down to the level of these pre-historic morons.
