Future Update - Speculation Thread

[Haig]

They could do a alt.leader Byzantine like this:

Leader bonus gives some sort of generic Byzantine bonus like for boosting wonders and districts of capital, or trade route bonus etc.
Leader bonus also gives a Byzantine UU like Varangian guard or Dromon.

It could also alternatively give an unique Goverment plaza building that replaces Grandmaster's chapel, the way that Kristina gives Sweden an unique G.Plaza building.

They could also give units like legion a reskin, like have them using shields and outfits of Byzantine's army

Georgia already does Walls+Religion well so I wouldn't mind whether Byzantines are alt.leader or full civ..

 

[pokiehl]

Relegating Byzantium to an alt leader for Rome would be a massive disappointment to me.

Imagine how much less interesting Alexander would be if he were simply a Greek alternate leader. If any Civ at face value should have just been an alt it was Macedon, but they made it separate and it works wonderfully.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

The question of why do people want Constantine as a Roman leader . . .

I mean, I don't know, maybe because he was RL leader of Rome?

 

[The googles do nothing]

And who exactly would play it, scientists at CERN? Civ 6 is already hella hungry as it is tbh, you need some customers to buy the game too and they need to be able to run it.

Those CERN guys are a bunch of lpb's who can only win by first moving.

The question of why do people want Constantine as a Roman leader . . .

I mean, I don't know, maybe because he was RL leader of Rome?

I don't have a preference who are the firaxis new leaders but they should tie in with some new mechanics introduced.

 

[RohirrimElf]

what time today would the announce a hint (if they do it today)? I kind of remeber them realaisng stuff 16.00 CET, but I can be wrong about that.

i’ve seen many announcements strict on time (16:00 CET). But there have been big moments where firaxis announced it 3 hours later. Biggest chance of something happening would be a thuesday or thursday. Low chance on a monday.

in any case. If there is another filler post. You could write the day off. Chance of something exciting happening after that is minimal. Besides if we found something at civfanatics that brakes NDA.

 

[OmegaDestroyer]

Blah. The wait is excruciating.

After playing through Civ 5 again, I hope if they do refine the diplomacy system. Notable, I hope permanent embargoes remain out of the game. Getting slapped with one really hurts.

 

[Cyon]

I was hoping for a teaser on twitter or facebook today and a short video tomorrow and a live playthrough on thursday but this was just whishfull thinking. Come on Firaxis give us something in this hard times!

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

No, but if I want to play Byzantines, I want to have Dromons and Cataphracts, Walls and a strong Religion. Just so different from what Rome currently offers gameplay and flavour-wise at the moment.

Wanting Dromons in the game is the only reason why I'm reluctant to fully commit to make an alt. Leader for Rome from Constantinople.

Leader bonus also gives a Byzantine UU like Varangian guard or Dromon.

This is also a remedy.

 

[XX36789]

happening, it is

 

[XX36789]

If Rome gets an alt, it should be Nero or Caligula. I really want to roleplay as an evil madman.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Rome, Egypt, China should get second leaders

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

happening, it is

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

If this is closer to the expansion end of the content spectrum, then QA build updates aren't going to tell us when an announcement will be, because that will be a purely marketing decision.

 

[sonicmyst]

What if Constantine becomes a leader of Byzantine civ and an alt-leader for Rome?

Just a thought.

 

[mitsho]

Of course, Constantine is a good leader for Rome and of course you can throw them in together. I'd be okay with it by the way, if we then get some exciting new civ instead we've never had before .

Also: Scipio Africanus is the only right choice for an alternate Roman leader. We've never had Republican Rome after all. (And I know Scipio is a very ironic choice to represent the Republic, given his biography, but who else?).

We need some real news or else we will be chatting in hypothetics ad infinitum.

 

[acluewithout]

China is the best candidate for an Alt Leader. Lots of Chinese players so (good potential sales), China in Civ VI is quite narrow and a leader could allow other gameplay aspects to be explored (particularly more military dynamic), and lots of leaders to choose from. I just don’t see the same overall value for a Rome or Egypt alt leaders.

Byzantium should of course be a separate Civ, for the same reason Macedonia is - ie so you can have enough room to develop the Civ (ie two abilities, one UB, and one or two UUs, versus Rome + one ability and maybe an extra UU). But the whole “should Byzantium be a separate Civ?” illustrates the problem Civ VI has, which is that it doesn’t have any way to represent culture over time. I know Humankind are taking a stab at that, but I don’t think their idea works either (choosing cultures from a buffet every era seems like the worst parts of Civ V’s Social Policies and Civ VI’s dedications smashed together). I just don’t think there’s anyway to really do evolution of culture over time without basically turning the game into EUIV.

What I’m most excited about is an Italy / Venice Civ, just because I’d love to see what FXS do with that given the history of Venice in Civ V.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I really want there to be an announcement this week. Just to be done with it, and to be circuit breaker to another week of all this global crazy. But I’m guessing that won’t happen. End April if we’re lucky, maybe even May.

Still. Longer the wait, more chance it’s an Expansion.

 

[tedhebert]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

If this is closer to the expansion end of the content spectrum, then QA build updates aren't going to tell us when an announcement will be, because that will be a purely marketing decision.

And I guess that a LOT of activity on a LOT of depots might also mean that it's NOT all that ready, that a lot of testing is being done and that a lot of corrections are still needed !

 

[VermelhoRed]

Of course, Constantine is a good leader for Rome and of course you can throw them in together. I'd be okay with it by the way, if we then get some exciting new civ instead we've never had before .

Also: Scipio Africanus is the only right choice for an alternate Roman leader. We've never had Republican Rome after all. (And I know Scipio is a very ironic choice to represent the Republic, given his biography, but who else?).

We need some real news or else we will be chatting in hypothetics ad infinitum.

And we've never had a leader represent the Dominate period as well, which is my logic for wanting Constantine. In most civ games it wasn't really possible to show a civilisation in two different periods / ways because they would always have the same Capital. Now it is possible, and I think they should take this opportunity. I love messing with medieval Byzantine elements as well, but I think we can all handle them not being present for this generation if we get Dominate representation as an alternate leader and a good selection of new civs as well. And we get Byzantium back in Civ 7, it's a win-win.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

What if Constantine becomes a leader of Byzantine civ and an alt-leader for Rome?

Just a thought.

I threw that idea with either Justinian or Theodora as well. It does have some precedence with Justinian being called one of the "Last of the Romans" and being able to recapture many Western Roman territories including the city of Rome itself.

Whoever it would be would keep Constantinople as the capital for both Civs.

 

[Wielki Hegemon]

I think alt leaders initially was an idea mainly for future mods (I remember one of the developers mentioned that). From a developer's point of view, it was a bad idea. It requires almost the same amount of resources as a new civ (leader graphics) and brings much less for a game. It's rather no brainer decision for Firaxis. I wouldn't expect a new alt leader in a new possible DLC no matter if it would be Roman one or any other.
Invariably I miss The Maya, Ethiopia (maybe as Axum) and Venice over any other Civs. But I don't mind The Byzantine.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Does anyone know what the Header updates might mean?

They're adding images to the Steam store.

It looks like the headers now include a PC Gamer rating and quote