Guess the map 13: Mercator maps are cool, actually

[Kyriakos]

Hm, Joseon era is (apparently) late 14th century to early 20th century. That Japan isn't featured is a bit strange (the annexation of Korea by Japan is what ends the Joseon era).
Maybe some conference about the fate of Korea, prior to the annexation?

As usual, no one cares about Austria-Hungary or the other secondary powers.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Maybe a hint is needed: It would be possible to make two other maps based on a connected aspect to what I'm looking for. On the first map 4 countries would be highlighted and on the second map 5 countries would be highlighted. Two countries would be highlighted on both maps, however they would go under different names and their exact geographical reach may be a bit different. The group of 4 would in the timeline be before the group of 5.

The colors on the map tell which countries belong to the first group, which ones belong to the second group and which can be said to belong to both groups.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Some aspect of war casualties?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Some aspect of war casualties?

No, but conflicts is a big part.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Maybe a hint is needed: It would be possible to make two other maps based on a connected aspect to what I'm looking for. On the first map 4 countries would be highlighted and on the second map 5 countries would be highlighted. Two countries would be highlighted on both maps, however they would go under different names and their exact geographical reach may be a bit different. The group of 4 would in the timeline be before the group of 5.

The colors on the map tell which countries belong to the first group, which ones belong to the second group and which can be said to belong to both groups.

Do blue countries belong to the "both" category?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Do blue countries belong to the "both" category?

Blue countries only belong to the second category, the group of 5. Two non blue countries belong to both groups.

 

[Samson]

All the other countries are in neither group?

 

[EnglishEdward]

Unequal trade treaties with China and Korea in the 19th century.

 

[emzie]

Does this have anything to do with empires, or imperial states?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

All the other countries are in neither group?

All white countries are not included.

Unequal trade treaties with China and Korea in the 19th century.

No, it have nothing to do with treaties.

Does this have anything to do with empires, or imperial states?

Yes, empires are mentioned. For the first group gunpowder and imperial hold some meaning, but not for the second group.

 

[emzie]

Are other contemporary empires intentionally excluded? I'm wondering about Belgium, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans and the Japanese.

Yes, empires are mentioned. For the first group gunpowder and imperial hold some meaning, but not for the second group.

Some things I'm noticing: Korea and China ceased to be empires before WWI. The German and Russian empires fell at the end or right after. That could be the group of four, empires that fell? The US, UK, France, Germany and Russia were founded later (17th and 18th centuries) than China or Korea (strictly speaking, it may be better to talk of dynasties here). That could be a group of 5? As to the 3 colours here, China and Korea are the oldest tier, the UK and France next, and last Russia, the US and Germany.

You mention gunpowder having some meaning, and my best guess there is that Korea and China did not use it much in war to establish either of their dynasties. The other 5 countries were sailing and marching around the world subjecting people with cannon and musket.

Am I on to anything?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Are other contemporary empires intentionally excluded? I'm wondering about Belgium, Austria-Hungary, Ottomans and the Japanese.

They are not intentionally excluded.

Some things I'm noticing: Korea and China ceased to be empires before WWI. The German and Russian empires fell at the end or right after. That could be the group of four, empires that fell? The US, UK, France, Germany and Russia were founded later (17th and 18th centuries) than China or Korea (strictly speaking, it may be better to talk of dynasties here). That could be a group of 5? As to the 3 colours here, China and Korea are the oldest tier, the UK and France next, and last Russia, the US and Germany.

As I said before, I expand it a bit is that two countries only belong to the first timeline, 3 countries only belong to the second timeline and the last two countries belong to both timeslines but they are know by different names in the two timelines and would probably have different borders, the map show the modern borders of countries. US, Germany and Russia, who are the group of 3 are the countries that only belong to the second timeline.

The first timeline is before the second timeline and in the first timeline gunpowder is a relevant word, but not so much in the second timeline. Also another hint. The first timeline can be subdivided into 3 smaller timelines and the second timeline can be subdivided into 2 smaller timelines.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Another hint, the second timeline is take place during two famous events that happened not so long ago. The first timeline is much longer, about 1000 years in length.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

More hints: Super early 21th century, between 2000 to 2005 is a key to the solution. The two famous events take place no more than 100 years before the key date in the 21th century.

 

[The_J]

This might be too difficult

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

This should make it a bit easier: A relative have a timline subdivided into 14 parts and is said to represent more than 500 000 years.

 

[The_J]

Well... so something about the founding of these states?
(not that the US makes a lot of sense there though)

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

No it have nothing to do with found of the states, however if you advance from the first timeline into the second timeline you have to pick a new country.

 

[amadeus]

Something to do with missile or rocket development?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

Something to do with missile or rocket development?

No, it is a bit before the space race, not by that much and there is some references to early rockets.