How to deal with decline in the rust belt?

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I started thinking about this because of Barack Obama's speech about the long slow decline of rust belt cities. Up until the 1970's states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois were the beating heart of American heavy industry because they had most of the steel mills, the car factories, and other heavy industry which powered the American economy. Blue collar workers flocked to these cities & states because with just a high school diploma they could get good unionized jobs which payed enough to support an entire family and live a solid middle class life style. All that is a thing of the past.

For the last 30 or so years the story of these places has been one of continual decline as the factories closed and people moved away to find jobs where ever they could. That meant that home values collapsed and never recovered and when owners were unable to find buyers even at lower prices many homes were just abandoned. Many cities are now filled with block after block of vacant houses in disrepair and one economic recovery plan after another was tried but failed to turn things around. So what are these cities to do?

One town in Ohio is trying a radical idea (radical to Americans anyway); they're bulldozing half off the town and removing most of the infastructure. The idea is to replace the blighted areas with parks, public gardens, and open spaces. I'm sure this is better then urban blight and it likely will cost less then paying to maintain streets no one lives on but will this really bring about economic renewal?

Still maybe a fresh start is what they need.

The incredible shrinking city
Youngstown, Ohio, has long been on the decline and now is being hit by the foreclosure crisis. Its answer: Razing abandoned buildings and tearing up streets.

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (CNNMoney.com) -- Youngstown, Ohio, has seen its population shrink by more than half over the past 40 years, leaving behind huge swaths of empty homes, streets and neighborhoods.

Now, in a radical move, the city - which has suffered since the steel industry left town and jobs dried up - is bulldozing abandoned buildings, tearing up blighted streets and converting entire blocks into open green spaces. More than 1,000 structures have been demolished so far.

Under the initiative, dubbed Plan 2010, city officials are also monitoring thinly-populated blocks. When only one or two occupied homes remain, the city offers incentives - up to $50,000 in grants - for those home owners to move, so that the entire area can be razed. The city will save by cutting back on services like garbage pick-ups and street lighting in deserted areas.

"When I grew up in the 1950s, the city was at its peak," said Father Ed Noga, who heads St. Patrick's on Youngstown's South Side. "There were kids everywhere and everyone converged on downtown. You went to eat, to shop and to go to the movies."

Today, downtown is positively sleepy and even somewhat derelict. Residents have to drive out of town to shop for clothes or housewares. And while foreclosures have long been a scourge in this city, they have recently skyrocketed along with the rest of the country, up 178% in February from a year ago.

"Abandoned houses here are like rainfall in the spring," said Mayor Jay Williams, "That has gone on for decades."
Growth strategy failed

For a while, Youngstown, with its population at just over 80,000, hoped to return to its boomtown roots, when 165,000 residents called it home.

"We long pursued a policy of growth," said the city's energetic young mayor. "We went after all these things that would make Youngstown a city of 150,000 again."

There were some harebrained schemes.

"A blimp factory was going to put the city back on the map," Williams said. "That represents a whole lot of the promises made and broken. They sound ridiculous now. President Clinton promised a defense facility employing 5,000. We were waiting for a savior."

They never got one. But now, Youngstown's infrastructure-paring strategy may yet become a model for other Rust-Belt cities that must recreate themselves after years of decline.

Already, delegations from smaller, post-industrial cities like Flint, Mich.; Wheeling, W.Va.; and Dayton, Ohio, have come to Youngstown to study the plan.

"We're one of the first cities of significant size in the United States to embrace shrinkage," said Williams.

It's an odd way to pioneer. "The American narrative always includes growth," said Hunter Morrison, Director of the Center for Urban and Regional Studies at Youngstown State University, which works closely with the city on plan 2010's implementation. "No one wants to talk about shrinkage. That's too threatening to politicians, civic boosters and Chambers of Commerce."

The demolitions can yield stark contrasts. In many neighborhoods, blocks have more empty lots than buildings.
Glory days

Even wealthy neighborhoods, like the North Side historic district, where mill owners and upper management once congregated, have eyesores.

On one corner, there sits a beautifully maintained seven-bedroom Tudor, yet down a side street, a wood-framed colonial is boarded up. Next door, an empty Victorian sits moldering, the wood of its window frames scorched. Lines of old hedges mark lot boundaries where once-proud homes stood.

Youngstown used to be the nation's third-largest steel producer; its mill workers earned among the highest factory wages in America. Demand for their services was strong.

"You could graduate from high school one day and start work in the mills the next," said Noga.

That changed on Sept. 19, 1977 - Black Monday - when Youngstown Sheet and Tube abruptly closed its doors.

"Five thousand people showed up for work one day and were turned away," said Phil Kidd, Downtown Director of Events and Special Projects for the city.

"The city lost its heart and soul," said Mayor Williams.

Within years, all the mills vanished. Noga recalls seeing idled workers watching as one of the oldest blast furnaces in the valley was dynamited. "I saw these hard men, shot-and-a-beer guys, standing there crying," he said.

The city's East Side stands as a totem to Youngstown's glory days. This mostly empty land was readied for development just after World War II - when streets, water and sewer service, signs and utility poles were installed.

But growth never came, and that makes for some strange city streetscapes today. There are few occupied homes and unkempt woodlands have taken over. There's at least one 10-acre farm and many other large fields.

Some dead-end streets are already uninhabitated and torn up, their outlets blocked with concrete barriers. Many roads are pitted and potholed; drivers have to slalom slowly through or face axle-busting jolts. Lonely water hydrants look woefully out of place sitting on the sides of rural-looking roads.

Today, a new spirit seems to have taken hold. Phil Kidd started the Web site Defend Youngstown, and said he hears from tons of former residents who would like to return.

"They call and email from all over the United States with suggestions on how to help," he said.
A fresh start

"I'm very nervous to have all that space," said Elsa Higby, the founder of Grow Youngstown, which promotes produce gardening and farmers markets. "I'm used to living in 460 square feet."

Ideally, all this energy surrounding 2010 will help turn the city around. It does have a lot going for it, including Youngstown State University, which attracts creative-class types like artists and writers and other intellectuals, as well as museums and an excellent public library.

The cheap residential and commercial real estate can be a draw. Start-up companies thrive on low overhead, and employees can easily find housing just minutes from work.

At the very least, the 2010 plan has changed residents' perspective, said Hunter Morrison. "It's getting us to think about where we're going into the future, rather than where we've been in the past."

http://money.cnn.com/2008/04/08/real_estate/radical_city_plan/index.htm?cnn=yes
 
Looks like one city has the right idea.

As to the rust belt: Get college educations.

Those states have some of the best public university systems in the country.
 
Cities rise and fall. As for the people, job training and re-education for workers displaced due to structural changes in the industries' employment practices. And probably throw in some tax incentives for new industry (green?) to replace the lost industry with, if the locales are good for such
 
Looks like one city has the right idea.

As to the rust belt: Get college educations.

Those states have some of the best public university systems in the country.
The funny thing is that most of the students who obtained the degrees, leave their state.
 
Okay, here is what I think needs to happen (I've been a rust-belter nearly all my life)

1) Acceptance. Lots of these places have been in denial. Leaders of these Rust Belt cities have been telling their residents for years that high-wage manufacturing jobs can come back, or have blamed their misfortunes on other people (other countries, Bill Clinton, GWB). The Youngstowns and Flints of America need to understand that the Steel Mills ain't coming back, no matter how sweet a property tax deal you can give them, and that means that sweet union gig for the high school graduate is over.

2) Education. I'm not talking about college here actually...the midwestern states happen to hav pretty good state university systems, although they are becoming very expensive. Rust Belt cities need to look inward, at their own local school systems...which are pretty bad. If they want to attract new businesses (and capital!), they must make local education a priority. The problem here isn't so much with money, it really is about culture. Books must come before football.

3) Improve the quality of life for residents. Youngstown has been trying to do this for a while, not just with bulldozing half their city, but by bringing in a convention center (with a sports team), and playing up the arts side of their University. A lot of the rust belt areas are ugly places to live, even though they're affordable, and smart, creative people don't want to live there..which is why people go to our wonderful universities, and get the hell out of the state (like me!).

Improving the quality of life may mean things like building up entertainment districts, adding parks and green spaces, cultivating a local "scene" (arts, music, food), removing legislation that may be deemed discriminatory, add nice libraries, etc etc.

Once you do those things, I think higher-paying, more stable industries will start to move in, and the cities will start to recover.
 
The funny thing is that most of the students who obtained the degrees, leave their state.

Exactly, and it isn't always because we can't get a job. A guy with an Engineering degree from Ohio State isn't going to have trouble finding work in Ohio...but he also can find work in Boston, Austin, North Carolina, or somewhere out west. Where would you rather live?
 
Where would you rather live?
The place where they pay the most. Which bring back the problem of the "brain-drain" situation that these states suffer.
 
The place where they pay the most. Which bring back the problem of the "brain-drain" situation that these states suffer.

Actuall, it ISN'T always the place where they pay the most, and thats where city economic planners have gone wrong. Talented workers are willing to give up a few thousand dollars to go live somewhere "nice", which is why firms in less desirable places, like Youngston or Gary, have to really overpay for talent. Thats why they need to rebrand themselves, to become more desirable locations.
 
It's like I'm always saying...hi-tech, hi-tech, hi-tech, hi-tech! Once you got a proper hi-tech sector running, the molecular nanofactories will take care of heavy industry and production, eliminating our reliance on 3rd world countries for cheap merchandise.
 
Actuall, it ISN'T always the place where they pay the most, and thats where city economic planners have gone wrong. Talented workers are willing to give up a few thousand dollars to go live somewhere "nice", which is why firms in less desirable places, like Youngston or Gary, have to really overpay for talent. Thats why they need to rebrand themselves, to become more desirable locations.
True in some degree.

I do have to ask you on how can a city like Youngstown attract young and able-minded college grads to come to their cities when the city is still stigmatized by all of the crimes and prison industries? Did you know that most people who go to youngstown are not necessarily engineers and other professions that are significant for economic productivity. They are mostly Criminal Justice grads.
 
Are you implying that Eskilstuna will fall? :huh:

Eskilstuna has found a great way to deal with abandoned industrial areas: make them historic.

Huh? Are you serious?
 
I was going to be cheeky and say hammerite, apart from that:

They need to accept the reality of their situation - that the steel mills etc are gone.

If they want to retain people they need to create jobs. This means keeping taxes and costs down, not having some great big plan to draw in creative types. They are easy come easy go - your neighbours can offer a better incentive.

There was a good article about the Japanese equivalent in the Economist a while back, with regional administrations suffering from declining and ageing populations and job losses. Some tried to spend their way out of decline with highways and high speed trains. They now have bigger infrastructures to support with smaller populations and bigger debts. One even went bankrupt. I will try to find it.
 
True in some degree.

I do have to ask you on how can a city like Youngstown attract young and able-minded college grads to come to their cities when the city is still stigmatized by all of the crimes and prison industries? Did you know that most people who go to youngstown are not necessarily engineers and other professions that are significant for economic productivity. They are mostly Criminal Justice grads.

It will take a long time. Youngstown in particular has a terrible (and for the most part, well deserved) reputation. The idea goes that as improvement in one area starts, improvements will be shown in some of the others. Hopefully, clearing out all these crappy houses will save the city some money, and increase some property values, which can give their school districts some more coin, or give the city more room to work with.

I think the convention center was a step in the right direction. I think improvements to YSU (particlarily in the arts..YSU has a better jazz department than OSU now I think, which leads to some wonderful community concerts) is another. As long as the community buys into the change, they can turn it around. Columbus did.
 
. This means keeping taxes and costs down, not having some great big plan to draw in creative types..

That is exactly what Rust Belt cities have been doing for the past two decades, and it isn't working. They cannot compete nationwide (or worldwide) on cost when it comes to manufacturing. They might offer a better tax plan than say, a sunbelt city, but the sunbelt town will still win the bid, because they can attract beter administrator talent, and can pay their labor less (since people *want* to live there)
 
It will take a long time. Youngstown in particular has a terrible (and for the most part, well deserved) reputation. The idea goes that as improvement in one area starts, improvements will be shown in some of the others. Hopefully, clearing out all these crappy houses will save the city some money, and increase some property values, which can give their school districts some more coin, or give the city more room to work with.

I think the convention center was a step in the right direction. I think improvements to YSU (particlarily in the arts..YSU has a better jazz department than OSU now I think, which leads to some wonderful community concerts) is another. As long as the community buys into the change, they can turn it around. Columbus did.
What did Columbus do?

Beautifying Youngstown with an art department such as jazz out of their Uni is one way of doing the betterance of the city. But that is peicemeal of all other things to do. That is: Job creation and a company that is not necessarily being a niche in the region (NorthEast Ohio), but one that can serve the nation and overseas.
 
Improving the quality of life may mean things like building up entertainment districts, adding parks and green spaces, cultivating a local "scene" (arts, music, food), removing legislation that may be deemed discriminatory, add nice libraries, etc etc.

Do you think that all the quality of life improvements on earth can make up for the rustbelt's lack of EITHER of the big W's (weather and water)?

My solution: the San Fernando Valley is expensive, and most porn people don't have much money. Therefore, make the rustbelt the pornbelt, and with the low cost of living you're bound to attract a massive porn industry. I doubt that the lack of museums would bother porn stars.
 
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