I just don't like mitt Romney

[GhostWriter16]

I will thank you for not implying I am crazy for disagreeing with your definition of compromise.

I wasn't trying to imply that, if I did I apologize. All I was saying is that that wasn't what I meant.

If we assume an indvidiual is pro-capital punishment and is pro-life that is not contradictory. Just take a brief moment, to ASSUME (i know it's hard) that a feotus is a LIVING HUMAN, ok i'm not trying to brainwash you just believe it's true for this post . Now what has the feotus done to deserve to be aborted? The answer?: Nothing. It has done anything.
Now, with a murderer - he is guilty of a crime. He has taken away somebody elses life - he deserves death for his actions.

Now you see the difference between the feotus and the prisoner? One is guilty of a serious crime, the other is guilty of nothing. I'm happy for someone to disprove me on this.

Ding Ding! I'm going to sig this so it doesn't come up again.

original sin yo

Is not something national policy is supposed to be built on. In fact, I could quote you a Biblical text proving such, but you wouldn't care anyways.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Thank you for the apology.

 

[WindFish]

, the War of 1812 was the last acceptable one

Er, the Yanks invaded Canada and burnt down York after declaring war on us.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Er, the Yanks invaded Canada and burnt down York after declaring war on us.

First off, just because the war itself was acceptable does not mean that every action that occurred as part of that war is also acceptable.

Secondly, England was sinking our ships and impressing our sailors. They needed to be made to stop.

I have no hate towards Canada or England But England deserved to get attacked those two times back then. Thankfully, they've stopped messing with us and now the biggest disagreements we have have to do with busts

 

[bhsup]

Dolly Parton vs Samantha Fox!

 

[WindFish]

Secondly, England was sinking our ships and impressing our sailors. They needed to be made to stop.

We only sinking your ships because you guys refused to stop trading with an evil dictator.

 

[GhostWriter16]

We only sinking your ships because you guys refused to stop trading with an evil dictator.

Which is none of your business to do. We can trade with whoever the heck we want.

 

[bhsup]

Well.... There are rules for trade by neutrals during time of war. But nothing justifes the kidnapping of American citizens, nor impressing them into service on British war ships.

 

[WindFish]

Which is none of your business to do. We can trade with whoever the heck we want.

Not when there is an embargo.

 

[GoodGame]

Dolly Parton vs Samantha Fox!

You sure belie your age.

 

[JohnRM]

I'll simply disagree with you on that.

Laughable. You're actually going to sit there and tell me that somebody with lots of charisma doesn't stand a better chance at moving people than someone with the personality of a doorstop? I hope I'm just reading you wrong.

Speaking of international affairs....this week hasnt been that great for Obama has it? And our nation is more polarized now than its ever been it seems.

Actually no. In case you haven't noticed, this hasn't be a great week for America. The death of an ambassador and three other Americans along with assaults on nearly a dozen of our embassies isn't a foreign referendum on President Obama. They're angry with the United States, period, and that has a lot to do with our past influence and activities in the region. You of all people should know this.

There is a reason a vast majority feels our nation is headed in the wrong direction. The people in charge arent doing a very good job. We certainly dont need 4 more years of what we just had.

We will set aside the fact that the number of people who think the country is headed in the right direction has risen by 6 points in the last polling cycle, we'll also set aside the fact that the vast majority of Americans have been thinking that the country is headed in the wrong direction for as long as I can remember, and focus solely on your own statement, here.

The people in charge include the Republican House. Do you want to axe them, too? Cause they have a lot more influence on the direction of the country than the President of the United States. In fact, they've been the chief hindrance to what the President has been trying to accomplish. I'll trade you the White House for your House of Representatives. Deal?

 

[Traitorfish]

If we assume an indvidiual is pro-capital punishment and is pro-life that is not contradictory. Just take a brief moment, to ASSUME (i know it's hard) that a feotus is a LIVING HUMAN, ok i'm not trying to brainwash you just believe it's true for this post . Now what has the feotus done to deserve to be aborted? The answer?: Nothing. It hasn't done anything.
Now, with a murderer - he is guilty of a crime. He has taken away somebody elses life - he deserves death for his actions.

All that demonstrates is that people short on critical thinking skills can contrive their way to absurd conclusions. And we knew that already.

 

[Cutlass]

OK, so if its really so unimportant, why not compromise on it with conservatives (Who do believe it is murder, and thus do seriously think its important) in exchange for some other issue that you guys do think is important?

Whether it deserves to be important depends on what you believe about it.

We'll consider compromise when you start acting with some ethics on the issue and cease to call it murder.

 

[JohnRM]

England was sinking our ships

This part is not true. As far as I know, the British did not sink a single American ship prior to the war.

 

[Crezth]

But I do wonder, if abortion is so unimportant to liberals, why on earth are they so insistent on Roe v Wade?

That's like saying "Why are people so insistent on the bill of rights?" just because nobody seriously questions whether we should have rights at all.

 

[JollyRoger]

OK, so if its really so unimportant, why not compromise on it with conservatives (Who do believe it is murder, and thus do seriously think its important) in exchange for some other issue that you guys do think is important?

Whether it deserves to be important depends on what you believe about it.

Are conservatives forced to have them?

 

[GhostWriter16]

Not when there is an embargo.

That is an exceedingly stupid argument. England has no right to tell us who we can and cannot trade with. I bet you still wish we hadn't broken free of your imperialist kings either.

We'll consider compromise when you start acting with some ethics on the issue and cease to call it murder.

Calling a spade a spade is unethical?

I really don't see why stating what you believe is unethical in Cutlass-world.

That's like saying "Why are people so insistent on the bill of rights?" just because nobody seriously questions whether we should have rights at all.

Huh? I don't get this analogy.

 

[Cutlass]

Calling a spade a spade is unethical?

I really don't see why stating what you believe is unethical in Cutlass-world.

If it were a spade, you would have a point. Since you don't, we are stuck with the fact that anti-abortion activists are the most immoral and unethical people currently active in American politics. And because of that immorality and unethical behavior, it would be a crime to allow them to win at anything.

 

[GhostWriter16]

If it were a spade, you would have a point. Since you don't, we are stuck with the fact that anti-abortion activists are the most immoral and unethical people currently active in American politics. And because of that immorality and unethical behavior, it would be a crime to allow them to win at anything.

First of all, you are proving that abortion IS an important issue to you, if it were not you would be wishing that the Democrats would just compromise on it and focus on something more important. That's honestly how I feel with a lot of Republican politicians and gay marriage. I'll admit I don't like it, but seriously, our country is NOT going to meet its Apocolypse and collapse if we legalize gay marriage, and if that were going to happen, it would have already happened since some states have legalized gay marriage. Find something more important to rant about

Aside from this, you are making massive, broad assumptions about the pro-life movement. You have yet to explain WHY they are being unethical.

Either you think they are just lying, which requires some proof, or they are simply in error and thus you would have to admit that them being the "Most immoral people in politics" is incorrect.

You aren't really making any sense. Explain why they are lying.

 

[JollyRoger]

How can there be compromise on the abortion issue when outlawing it is unconstitutional?