Immigration in the US

[VoodooAce]

Yeah, but what you propose Heffalump is not possible.

We can not say, "Nobody of Arab descent is allowed in our country." There are plenty of Arab descent that are Christians. I work with an Egyptian Coptic.

And who makes that decision? Who says, "Well, you're a borderline case, but I'm going to allow you in." or "You're a borderline case, access denied!"

Who decides what does and does not mesh. Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers.

 

[Heffalump]

Nations are generally allowed a quota of immigrants each year. I simply propose that quotas for countries like Saudia Arabia hover around nil (excepting the bona fida amnesty claims for human rights violations) while countries with values more tolerant to our own have larger quotas (e.g. India, multi-cultural, democratic)

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by Heffalump
Nations are generally allowed a quota of immigrants each year. I simply propose that quotas for countries like Saudia Arabia hover around nil (excepting the bona fida amnesty claims for human rights violations) while countries with values more tolerant to our own have larger quotas (e.g. India, multi-cultural, democratic)

Can they import their class-system? Multi-cultural? Why do you think every Muslim fled the country 50 years ago?

Even though I suppose they are better than most. I would prefer opening the immigration floodgates judging people as individuals; basically asking the rhetorical question "What are they bringing to the table?" Work ethic? Education? Let them in.

 

[MrPresident]

Nations are generally allowed a quota of immigrants each year. I simply propose that quotas for countries like Saudia Arabia hover around nil (excepting the bona fida amnesty claims for human rights violations) while countries with values more tolerant to our own have larger quotas (e.g. India, multi-cultural, democratic)

Didn't they try that in the 1920s by excluding Eastern Europeans in favour of Western Europeans? Why would countries like Saudi Arabia not have immigrats with values more tolerant to your own. Not to pick on the Irish (Northern that is) but they have a multi-cultural and democratic society but that doesn't stop them from being terrorist. The same for the Basque region of Spain. Personally I think that it must be a lot harder for someone from Saudi Arabia to even think about emigrating to the US, so they must really want to go there.

 

[knowltok2]

Originally posted by MrPresident

Didn't they try that in the 1920s by excluding Eastern Europeans in favour of Western Europeans

Yes. Throughout American history there have been periods when immigration was encouraged, and discouraged. The discouragement generally went by place of origin. Eastern Europeans one time, Japanese and Chinese the next. It has been argued that the periods of restricted immigration allowed for assimilation of the recently arrived immigrants.

Neither here nor there, but I was in a book store the other day and saw this on an American history book on immigrants:

Immigrants to the US learned three things when they got here:
1. The streets were not paved in gold.
2. The streets weren't paved at all.
3. They were expected to pave them.

No value judgement here, just found it interesting and wanted to pass it along.

 

[MrPresident]

Immigrants to the US learned three things when they got here:

What most immigrates into New York discovered is that they shouldn't give their bags to strangers.

 

[Ebenezer1]

Originally posted by knowltok2



Immigrants to the US learned three things when they got here:
1. The streets were not paved in gold.
2. The streets weren't paved at all.
3. They were expected to pave them.

A couple of days ago I have seen a tv show about italian emigration (mostly in USA, but also in Canada and Argentina) and one emigrant send a letter to his mother (in 189.. and something...) and the words were the same