Imperium Offtopicum IX

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Personally, I don't think it's fair to be keeping the "Raiju NPC" if it cannot be dissolved. By default, if everyone loses interest in this IOT, then the GM's nation would stand out as the only nation standing. Especially considering since it was a former player controlled nation. How can we be sure that you're going to be fair and impartial considering your history with overpowered NPCs? For all we know, you could easily abuse the RPG award system to give it (The Raiju) an edge against other human players.

Yeah, can we say awards for RPG or whatever can't be given to the GM nation?
 
Personally, I don't think it's fair to be keeping the "Raiju NPC" if it cannot be dissolved. By default, if everyone loses interest in this IOT, then the GM's nation would stand out as the only nation standing.

That's everyone else's problem, not mine, I'm afraid.

Especially considering since it was a former player controlled nation. How can we be sure that you're going to be fair and impartial considering your history with overpowered NPCs?

If I wasn't fair and impartial, I'd give the Raiju a ton of RP points and have them win every battle they win. But I do not.

For evidence of me being balanced, see MP's NPCs. The RP bonuses have been less than the players'; they're successful because I know the best thing to do in each situation.

For all we know, you could easily abuse the RPG award system to give it (The Raiju) an edge against other human players.

Because the paltry sum I give the Raiju of in all likelihood 10-20 RP points per turn would go such a long way to topple Coruscant, France, or the Justice League's very large bank accounts... :p

Yeah, can we say awards for RPG or whatever can't be given to the GM nation?

Nope! :p
 
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If I wasn't fair and impartial, I'd give the Raiju a ton of RP points and have them win every battle they win. But I do not.

Aha! He admits it! He isn't fair and impartial. Raiju has won every battle they won. Boom! :p
 
SUPERMAN DEMANDS YOU GET BACK TO THE GAME

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Once upon a time Wonder Woman talked too much. She yakked on and on and wouldn't stop talking about useless things that were not funny. Like Laws. Superman eventually got annoyed. She isn't talking now.
 
Zululand denounces the Incoporated States of New Kinichikia for their aggresive behavior toward G.A.S. Remember, if you attack one of our members, we ALL fight alongside them.

Let us go through the sequence of events, shall we?

  • French Commune does something to anger Australia; most likely, it was their repeated pointless denouncings of Capitalism & Monarchism
  • French Commune forms the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • Australia announces that it shall cut ties with any nation that joins the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • New Kinichikia, pleased that another nation is alarmed at the emerging Socialist power block, offers a DP to Australia
  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia
  • New Kinichikia announces that any declaration of War by the French Commune will be seen as a declaration of War against New Kinichikia; effectively, we have declared that we will be doing our part to defend the world from Socialist Imperialism.

And this makes us the aggressor?
Perhaps I should repeat the important bit.

  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia
 
Let us go through the sequence of events, shall we?

  • French Commune does something to anger Australia; most likely, it was their repeated pointless denouncings of Capitalism & Monarchism
  • French Commune forms the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • Australia announces that it shall cut ties with any nation that joins the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • New Kinichikia, pleased that another nation is alarmed at the emerging Socialist power block, offers a DP to Australia
  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia
  • New Kinichikia announces that any declaration of War by the French Commune will be seen as a declaration of War against New Kinichikia; effectively, we have declared that we will be doing our part to defend the world from Socialist Imperialism.

And this makes us the aggressor?
Perhaps I should repeat the important bit.

  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia

Oh what the hell, the Horde supports Kinichikia.
 
Spend 10 RP on claims:
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Oh what the hell, the Horde supports Kinichikia.

We thank the Denmarji Horde, and offer them a defensive pact & a trade agreement.
 
Orders needed from:

-Unicornia
-Cascadia
-Banana Republic
-Italy
-Denmarji
-Australia
-Dark Empire
-Cool Kids

14/24 orders in. Lock in 24 hours.

Due to the crowded nature of the map, I suggest we transfer the game into Sudden Death mode. What is that, you ask? It means that unless I've been given notice to automate you ( a la Robert Can't ) your nation will be vaporised should you miss a turn.

I suggest you give everyone a turns warning. Ala this turn don't delete anyone but after this one start deleting.

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Politics
The Justice Lords-I mean League of America continues to stay neutral in the building cold war due to friendships with nation involved on both sides. Although it will look poorly on those that strike first. We wish we had time to issue a better and official looking statement but the Martian Manhunter who handles Foreign Affairs has gone missing. We will resume our normal level of updates and interactions shortly.

With France buying Ireland from the League and sending lots of Alcohol to Superman he has been spending a lot of his time with is cousin. Showing the next generation how things are done.

Spoiler :
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We regret to inform the French and the S.U.D.S that we will not be picking a side, which also means no denouncements. However if new nations appear on your border limiting your expansion we are always willing to sell more land in Ireland.
 
Let us go through the sequence of events, shall we?

  • French Commune does something to anger Australia; most likely, it was their repeated pointless denouncings of Capitalism & Monarchism
  • French Commune forms the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • Australia announces that it shall cut ties with any nation that joins the Global Alliance of Socialism
  • New Kinichikia, pleased that another nation is alarmed at the emerging Socialist power block, offers a DP to Australia
  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia
  • New Kinichikia announces that any declaration of War by the French Commune will be seen as a declaration of War against New Kinichikia; effectively, we have declared that we will be doing our part to defend the world from Socialist Imperialism.

And this makes us the aggressor?
Perhaps I should repeat the important bit.

  • The French Commune, apparantly not liking the idea of rival nations being able to defend themselves, once again denounces New Kinichikia & Australia, and publically calls for the remaining nations of the world to undermine New Kinichikia & Australia

The following is part of a radio interview between Jain Ybarra and the recently elected Premier of the Democracy of Aragon, Susan Rojo. After questions on the issues within Aragon (such as the reconstruction, the removal of the mines Otto left behind etch), they are then moving onto the international relations of the Socialist Union of Democratic States, with Jain asking “so what is your view on the matter of the recent tensions between the S.U.D.S and New Kinichikia?” What is Susan’s reply?

“What you expect? The government of New Kinichikia is stubborn. We denounce people for a reason. The capitalists’ greed...”

“But surely we should not... err... try to cause to much... tention by calling for more denouncement, especially after our union is begin labelled as aggressive...”

“I laugh at their definition of ‘aggressive.’ According to New Kinichikia we have aggressive to Australia. The government of Australia has been aggressive to Hawai. Conflict aroused due to Australia attacking Hawai. Would New Kinichikia explain why the government of Australia has not been denounced by them as aggressive? We denounced Australia for more than simply ideological differences you know.”

“Well we...”

“It is the reasonable now that I would ask Hawai to join the Global Alliance of Socialism as to give a message to those controlling New Kinichikia and Australia that aggression will not be tolerated.”

“Well... but the French Commune that served as the spawn of the S.U.D.S did denounce New Kinichikia...”

“What? New Kinichikia is being lead by fools who think they are the victim. They think we denounce people for little reason. A division of wealth that is unliberal. The richer people pay less of their income then the average figure. Money as a source of political currency via handouts to political figures. Workers exploited and the trade unions protecting them demonised by the political figures as “ruffians,” with the media and police during their best to crack down the voice of dissent. Remember too that in the 20th and 21st century that corporations set up factories in developing countries. The exploition of the workers there including child labour. If capitalism is so progressive then why does it have child labour linked to it? Tell me about the sins that we have that rises above capitalism.”

“To be fare on New Kinichikia’s part, the most well known socialist union in history was the USSR...”

“Was that the Communist power it claimed to be? No. It was a state of inequality. The people were now dealing with the currency of party membership and the fear of the purge. Karl Marx had spoken of a time of capitalism that was of a slave labour style of function. This matches the labour situation under Stalin. Stalinism is not called a form of state capitalism for no good reason.”

“Right...”

“Anyway: the S.U.D.S is a democracy. As you saw in the recent elections we are a multi-party system as oppose to a single political power block to vote for. We even allow a capitalist political party in the form of once French Capitalist Guild that now labelled itself in light of the creation of the S.U.D.S as the European Capitalist Alliance. We are a true power of liberty. We would like for the capitalists to explain how their society which preaches greed and the idea that people should not co-operate... a society which a hard labouring factory worker gets less cash then someone sitting behind a desk... is to them classed as a progressive society.”

“Still on the question of denouncement...”

“You know I heard that the French Commune offered trade to the capitalists and the capitalists... refused on ideological grounds, with even threats to boycott a development conference that the Commune was trying to set up. New Kinichikia’s claim we started the fire reminds me of Otto’s claim that the French, who he invaded and then commence genocide of in response to France’s stance against the Spanish attack on Italy, were the ones who declared the conflict.”

“Is... labelling the government of New Kinichikia on the same lines as Otto’s government a incarnation of Godvin’s law?”

“Godvin’s what?”

“It was a law recently made on the internet. It declared that the longer a talk goes on, the closure it comes to have a mention of Otto and his government.”

“And?”

“I think we may not have a good idea to have New Kinichikia’s government compared to Otto’s rule. We should judge things as they are...”

“Such as the fact that New Kinichikia started the fire.”

“Well... may we go onto the recent plans for Aragon’s wine exports? Something that is not going to cause so much international problems?”

“Aragon’s wine is better than New Kinichikia’s wine!”

“This... is going to take all day.”

As the interview continued the Premier of Aragon made several more insults at New Kinichikia. The S.U.D.S would remind everyone that Susan Rojo’s statements does not necessary represent the views of the majority. In other news the S.U.D.S has sent a request to the Horde for them to sign a None-Aggression Pact, along with a request that the Horde should remain neutral during any incidents between the S.U.D.S and New Kinichikia, especially as the railway plan proposed to the Horde may give them economical growth. The S.U.D.S also sends request to both Russia and the Zulus to sigh a Joint Army Training Operations Pact in order to prepare for just in case a spark causes a massive inferno. Finally: the figure going to Hawai with the G.A.S membership application is Doctor Ginny Sepulveda, who will also going to offer Hawai a Navy Research Pact which will booster the development of creation newer, meaner ships of war.
 
The SUDS is aware that Hawai & Australia have forgiven & forgotten past tensions, is it not?

...

Given that the SUDS has publically stated that the views of a certain Susan Rojo do not reflect the views of the majority of SUDS citizens, we feel no need to respond to them; we would, of course, be more than happy to recieve Susan Rojo in Athens for a debate, should the Premier wish it, though.
 
The SUDS is aware that Hawai & Australia have forgiven & forgotten past tensions, is it not?

...

Given that the SUDS has publically stated that the views of a certain Susan Rojo do not reflect the views of the majority of SUDS citizens, we feel no need to respond to them; we would, of course, be more than happy to recieve Susan Rojo in Athens for a debate, should the Premier wish it, though.

The extreme views of Mrs Rojo are noted. Although there is hostility to New Kinichikia it is of ideological grounding as oppose to national hatred. That said the majority of our people are not fans of capitalism. They are also however not fans of any tensions that would lead to war.

Famed debate show host Victor Miles has stepped in with a request: why do not Premier Rojo of Aragon, Grand Premier Abel Roux of the S.U.D.S, the leader of New Kinichikia and the second –in-command of New Kinichikia come to discuss their issues on a special edition of “so what is your view on the matter?” The edition will take place in Athens if possible to allow Miles a quick chance to go on a quick tourist break. There will be talks on economics, our diplomatic relations, the debate among political scholar about the power of the media on the mind and of the possibility of the creation of the Council of Gaia, which would prove to help in matters of tension as a body of diplomacy.
 
Moi? No idea, I just ask the Internet for lulz and it provides.

All Hail the Internet


on a different note. Tanny, you can go and delete my nation. It turns out I wont have time for it...
 
El Presidente Carlos Quintana gazed out the window in his luxury suite at Gotham skyline and smiled. "Ah, this is truly a magnificent city, is it not?"

"If by magnificent, you mean crime extremely depressing, then yes, it is" came the reply from Foreign Minister Maria Quintana, who did not even bother to look up from the diplomatic relays she was reading through.

"Hmph, you're always such a buzz kill. I should never have let you come along on my vacation."

"This isn't a vacation. It's a diplomatic mission"

"See?!" Carlos exclaimed, twirling around dramatically and pointing at his older sister. "Right there! Buzz kill. You have never been any fun! Even as a kid, you were always clouding things with your 'facts' and 'knowledge'. I could have been riding a polar bear to school if you hadn't dashed my dreams!"

Maria sighed and rubbed her temples. How on Earth am I related to this idiot? "You couldn't even ride a bike. Riding an aggressive mammal was definitely out of the question."

"Says you."

"Yes, says me. And since this is a diplomatic mission, perhaps you should actually interact with some of the members of the JLA instead of wasting time going to plays!"

"Hey, firstly, the Dark Musical is not a play, it is a musical. Secondly, Superman wasn't available today, and no one else is important enough that I should have to talk to them. And thirdly, you're ugly, so NEH." Carlos retorted childishly.

"You are such a child." Maria turned back to her reading. Suddenly, one piece of news in particular caught her eye. "Oh no, this can't be good."

"What can’t be good?” Carlos responded idly, now rummaging through the suite’s fridge.

“The Greater Cascadian Empire has started implementing some new anti-Latino laws. They are getting even more supremacist than I had thought. This, coupled with their recent history of aggression, could make things very hazard-“

“%$#&!”

“What’s wrong?”

“This stupid hotel has no rum!”

Maria sighed. “You know, you don’t need alcohol every single day. Not to mention that there are other varieties to choose from.”

“You expect me to drink that swill the Americans call beer? Bah! I’ll just have to grab some from the gift basket.”

“Wait, what gift basket?”

“Oh, I just put together a couple things of rum and tobacco to give to Superman.”

“You did WHAT?! Didn’t I specifically say that Superman shouldn’t be given ANY alcohol?”

Carlos dismissed her objections with a wave. “Oh, come on. Nothing bad will happen. Besides, I’ll be damned if I am outdone by those French Commies!” he cried, making his way towards the door.

“Wait, you still haven’t addressed the situation with Cascadia!”

“Oh that. Well, you’ll come up with something. I’m off to get ‘blitzed’, as they say”

Diplomacy:

To the desk of the Martian Manhunter, Justice League of America:

First, let me apologize for any alcoholic substances that make their way into the hands of Superman. El Presidente is, well, an a$$, and rarely does he act in what a rational manner when alcohol is involved. Thankfully, he is also prone to heavy drinking, so there is a good chance that he may go through this “gift basket” he has prepared by the night’s end.

Onto more serious business, the United Banana Republic wishes to extend a Defensive Pact to curb the aggression of the Greater Cascadian Empire. I know that you are probably concerned about the state of our “leader”, but let me assure you that we have more competent advisors to keep him in line. The fact that the UBR has imploded yet should be a testament to that.
 
The extreme views of Mrs Rojo are noted. Although there is hostility to New Kinichikia it is of ideological grounding as oppose to national hatred. That said the majority of our people are not fans of capitalism. They are also however not fans of any tensions that would lead to war.

Famed debate show host Victor Miles has stepped in with a request: why do not Premier Rojo of Aragon, Grand Premier Abel Roux of the S.U.D.S, the leader of New Kinichikia and the second –in-command of New Kinichikia come to discuss their issues on a special edition of “so what is your view on the matter?” The edition will take place in Athens if possible to allow Miles a quick chance to go on a quick tourist break. There will be talks on economics, our diplomatic relations, the debate among political scholar about the power of the media on the mind and of the possibility of the creation of the Council of Gaia, which would prove to help in matters of tension as a body of diplomacy.

This seems reasonable enough
 
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