In What Electronic Entertainment Have You Been Partaking #19: Cyberpunked

[Synobun]

So are we officially over calling disappointed gamers whiney and entitled?

And this is on top of even more recent reviews that have come out saying the game is kind of lame.

For someone who doesn't have the game and doesn't intend to play it, you sure have a lot of strong opinions about it.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I actually plan on getting it!

 

[Synobun]

I actually plan on getting it!

Not from the PS Store, you won't!

 

[hobbsyoyo]

And probably not for months at any rate. It was going to be the first game I got for PS5 but by the time I am able to snag one of those, there will be something better to play instead.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Cities Skyline is free on Epic today, btw

 

[thecrazyscot]

So are we officially over calling disappointed gamers whiney and entitled?

Gamers are whiney and entitled, mind-bogglingly so.

And rarely, so very rarely, right about something.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Also, does Stadia support PC games? I'm starting to consider getting it.

Anyone know? If it plays PC games, I'll definitely get it instead of waiting for PS5

 

[GenMarshall]

Sony Removes Cyberpunk 2077 from PS Store, Will Offer Refunds to PlayStation Players Who Already Bought It

I'm just waiting for a couple of weeks until the patches come out before I buy it. Thank goodness I'm on PC. Though this is not unheard of for me, but for an expantion pack for WoW. Blizzard actually changed the release date for Shadowlands for another month and offered refunds for players. I didin't take the refund option since I know that it's better for a polished release later on (as best they can) than seeing Bethesda-style bugs in WoW.

 

[Ajidica]

I'm just waiting for a couple of weeks until the patches come out before I buy it. Thank goodness I'm on PC. Though this is not unheard of for me, but for an expantion pack for WoW. Blizzard actually changed the release date for Shadowlands for another month and offered refunds for players. I didin't take the refund option since I know that it's better for a polished release later on (as best they can) than seeing Bethesda-style bugs in WoW.

Heck, I'm waiting another couple months before I even start checking if they have optimized it I can run it well enough on my 5 year old (but quite good when it was made!) desktop.

Anyhow, for a budget RPG, Greedfall is quite stunning. Game is a solid recommendation for Steam winter sale. It has a slow start and the tutorial area is over long, but lots of fun. Solid 7/10.

Seeking a mysterious thief-prince in the slums of San-Mateus.

Exploring the wild highlands of Tir Fradee:

However, the game's budget shows through in parts, as seen in the complete lack of animations in the world's least sexy brothel. No animations, the NPCs just stiffly stand there like middle schoolers attempting to flirt with their crush. Morrowind had a sexier brothel.

 

[Arakhor]

However, the game's budget shows through in parts, as seen in the complete lack of animations in the world's least sexy brothel. No animations, the NPCs just stiffly stand there like middle schoolers attempting to flirt with their crush. Morrowind had a sexier brothel.

In fairness, Suran's ladies of the night weren't clothed, which would be a good start, no matter your proclivities.

 

[aelf]

Gamers are whiney and entitled, mind-bogglingly so.

And rarely, so very rarely, right about something.

Indeed.

I tended not to agree with this assessment, but, boy, were some of the complaints I saw silly. Like the game not being punk enough due to having gender-specific hairstyles. I don't see why they have to be gender-specific either (actually a staple of customisation in RPGs), but not the whole world is so enlightened, you know? Are they just not gonna consume media not made in the usual places, then?

Sony Removes Cyberpunk 2077 from PS Store, Will Offer Refunds to PlayStation Players Who Already Bought It

https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-r...-to-playstation-players-who-already-bought-it


So are we officially over calling disappointed gamers whiney and entitled?

And this is on top of even more recent reviews that have come out saying the game is kind of lame (when it runs).

That's good, right? If they can't run the game well, then it's right that they get refunds. I don't see the problem here.

Sure, be disappointed. You're within your rights to be. At least you won't be labelled misogynists and alt-right by the creators and game journalists like when people were disappointed with The Last of Us 2.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Heck, I'm waiting another couple months before I even start checking if they have optimized it I can run it well enough on my 5 year old (but quite good when it was made!) desktop.

Anyhow, for a budget RPG, Greedfall is quite stunning. Game is a solid recommendation for Steam winter sale. It has a slow start and the tutorial area is over long, but lots of fun. Solid 7/10.

Seeking a mysterious thief-prince in the slums of San-Mateus.

However, the game's budget shows through in parts, as seen in the complete lack of animations in the world's least sexy brothel. No animations, the NPCs just stiffly stand there like middle schoolers attempting to flirt with their crush. Morrowind had a sexier brothel.

A brothel with body masks and social distancing!

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

@hobbsyoyo I think you might like this: https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/1...punk-2077-game-rebrands-it-as-cyberpunk-2020/

“While we initially worried about offering refunds, we here at Sony feel a game riddled with bugs and poor performance was perfectly appropriate for the year 2020,” explained Sony Interactive spokesperson Karen Fukiyama. “Now that Cyberpunk has been retconned as taking place during the current year, the sluggish framerates and disappointing visuals all make perfect sense.”

The malfunctioning game, initially set in the futuristic dystopia of 2077, proved surprisingly easy for developers CD Projekt Red to re-contextualize in the year 2020. “It all just kinda fit,” described program lead Christian Werks. “The bugs in the game create an overall sense of frustration and despair – perfect for getting the player in a 2020 headspace.”

“Plus, the original Cyberpunk setting has everyone talking into screens all the time, dressing in weird clothes, and a bunch of casual ableism and transphobia – that all sounds like our current garbage year of 2020 to me,” exclaimed Werks proudly.

 

[cardgame]

At least you won't be labelled misogynists and alt-right by the creators and game journalists like when people were disappointed with The Last of Us 2.

I mean, you saw the reviews trashing that game, didn't you? 90% of the disappoint was just alt right misogyny.

 

[really]

I got prison architect and one dlc free on GOG yesterday.

 

[AdamCrock]

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[aelf]

I mean, you saw the reviews trashing that game, didn't you? 90% of the disappoint was just alt right misogyny.

You're probably looking at entirely different channels from me

And there were reviews that had nothing to do with those and got automatically labelled alt-right and misogynistic. No apology or rectification either after the errors were pointed out. It was an echo chamber.

 

[AmazonQueen]

The Long Dark free on Epic now which is nice because its a game I've ummed and ahhed about getting for a while. Procrastination FTW.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

Gamers are whiney and entitled, mind-bogglingly so.

And rarely, so very rarely, right about something.

A tiny vocal minority of (mostly male, mostly alt-right) gamers are whiney and entitled. Most gamers are *gasp* people who play videogames. That includes people who play Nintendo Switch, grandmas who play Solitaire and hermits who spend 10 hours a day on dwarf fortress.

This "gamers are whiney and entitled" meme is literally just a continuation of the nerd trope (and the manchild trope! let's not forget that!) and needs to die. Gaming is something virtually anyone does nowadays. Even Joe Boomer and Chad Thundercrock, even your Indionesion grand-grand uncle is probably playing indonesian flappy birds somewhere. Saying "gamers are entitled" makes about as much sense as saying "people who like movies are entitled". Virtually everyone likes/has seen movies. There is nothing that gamers have in common aside from playing videogames. Thinking all gamers are manhild neckbeards is about as stringent as thinking all physicists are like Big Bang theory characters. practically none are.

Worse even, "gamers are whiney" is routinely used as an argument in favor of big corporations, against consumers. "if you don't like it, just don't buy it! stop complaining, no one is forcing you to buy it, right?"

**** this noise and **** bootlicking multi billion dollar corporations. Activision is a piece of ****. Ubisoft is literally infested with rapey old men who hold meetings in strip clubs. Workers are getting laid off for absolutely zero reason besides profit. Crunch is omnipresent. Half of all games released nowadays have lootboxes, p2w mechanics or are purposefully built around buying "exp boosts" and other "timesavers" with real money. People should be complaining. We have ample reason to complain. the sad thing is of course that with all this dumpsterfire **** going on some idiots still complain about lesbian protagonists because it's the downfall of western civilization.

Sure, be disappointed. You're within your rights to be. At least you won't be labelled misogynists and alt-right by the creators and game journalists like when people were disappointed with The Last of Us 2.

This is a great example actually - The Last of Us 2, a game which had so many things wrong with it, a case of developers actively abusing and underpaying their staff, and yet the only complaints that were prominently featured were alt-right bullfeathers about hairstyles and """gender ideology""".

it seems to me more than video-game journalism or criticism is in crisis, rather than this being about "gamers". how many video game journalists actively publish bad stuff about the industry? I can genuinely only name three.

I guess I belong more in the "angry gamer stereotype" camp than in the whiney gamer camp. dozens of broken mice and keyboards can attest to that.

 

[Synobun]

Trying to rush through the quests for No Man's Sky. The story lacks an element of investment, so it feels like I'm just doing busywork.

Granted, some of the quests are busywork. Go build a submarine and then use it to travel hundreds of miles at a speedy clip of like 50 miles per hour. Then use it to travel back. Then use it to travel elsewhere. Then use it to travel back. Then use it to travel elsewhere...

You can cheese it and summon your starship on land to travel most of the distance in 10 seconds instead of 7+ minutes, but all of these destinations are a good few hundred meters from shore so you're stuck slumming it with a doggy-paddling submarine constantly. Took two hours to complete and there wasn't even a real ending to the quest. Just a shrug of the shoulders. Fantastic.