Interesting incest question...

Which is more immoral


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Perfection

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Which of these do you find more immoral:
1. Adoptive siblings who've lived together their entire life marrying
2. Related siblings who've never seen each other until they both became adults marying

You may phone a thread or ask the audience, but there is no 50:50.
 
1. Creepy but morally acceptable
2. Not-creepy but unhealthy and immoral

I wouldn't tell people in one whether they should get married or not, but I would tell them that they can't be persuing such a relationship for healthy reasons.
 
Neither are immoral provided it is conseusal and they are of approiate age (age of conset).

I thought that the unhealthy part was disputed?
 
To me scenario 1 is definitely more immoral.
Incest has not much to do in my eyes with genetics ties but with not marrying what is socially considered your sibling. And that definition of sibling varies from society to society.
 
Masquerouge said:
To me scenario 1 is definitely more immoral.
Incest has not much to do in my eyes with genetics ties but with not marrying what is socially considered your sibling. And that definition of sibling varies from society to society.

What makes it so "immoral" morality is a huiman invention and a human concept and varies from society to society. How do you judge it to be immoral? Do you also judge homosexuality to be immoral?
 
Bozo Erectus said:
And if they were both Ayn Rand fans, and working at a cloning lab, we'd have the perfect OT storm.

Only if one of them was Muslim. :p
 
silver 2039 said:
What makes it so "immoral" morality is a huiman invention and a human concept and varies from society to society. How do you judge it to be immoral? Do you also judge homosexuality to be immoral?

Exactly. But I did say it was my morals, and I have other views on homosexuality that are not the subject of this thread :)
 
Masquerouge said:
To me scenario 1 is definitely more immoral.
Incest has not much to do in my eyes with genetics ties but with not marrying what is socially considered your sibling. And that definition of sibling varies from society to society.
QFT! Well said.
 
I think that everyone just claims they are only against incest for biological reasons (like unhealthy babies or whatever) as a front... the real reason is just that everyone thinks it is gross.

PS: Isn't saying that incest (between adults) will lead to unhealthyness in babies sortof like making knives illegal because you might stab someone with them?
 
Fifty said:
I think that everyone just claims they are only against incest for biological reasons (like unhealthy babies or whatever) as a front... the real reason is just that everyone thinks it is gross.

yeah but why do people think it is gross ?
My views, heavily influenced by that of Claude Levi-Strauss, is that incest is a way to force the tribe/clanic family to expand outside its boundaries, insuring its long-term success.
Over the years, the centuries, the milleniums, this taboo has been so deeply marked in our social behaviours that the result is that today we find it gross.

An argument for that over the biological argument is that a lot of primitive societes, particularly Amazonians tribes, have really complex incest taboos where incest is not between, say, father and daughter, but between daughter and the father of the brother.

This tends to show that incest taboos are not biologically driven, but respond to economical/social/expansionnic motives.

Another blow to the biological argument is that infant death rates were way too high for people to notice, and act upon, genetical defects in their congenital offspring. Especially if it concerns the immune system, at times when people drank directly from rainwater :lol:
 
2 is more "immoral" since they are related by genes.
1 is meh, since they aren't related by genes, but is mentally unhealthy, since the growing up with them.
 
Perfection said:
Which of these do you find more immoral:
1. Adoptive siblings who've lived together their entire life marrying
2. Related siblings who've never seen each other until they both became adults marying

You may phone a thread or ask the audience, but there is no 50:50.

As someone who has been in situation #2, I'd have to say both are disturbing, but #1 is definitely 1000 times worse than #2. I was separated from my cousin for 20 years, on two sides of the iron curtain. When we were reunited, there were some... feelings... but neither of us gave in.
 
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