Zack
99% hot gas
SRO
4 IC -- 2 factories
2 IC -- stability
2 IC -- Science
4 IC -- 2 factories
2 IC -- stability
2 IC -- Science
Iron and Blood - Game Thread
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"As of this morning, all Icelandic nationals will have their Visas revoked and citizenship papers revoked. All Icelandic businesses operating within the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan will be nationalized by the government. All bank assets belonging to Icelandic citizens are frozen. Any Icelandic trade ship attempting to sail through the Arabian Sea will be seized. Any Icelandic military vessel that attempts to sail through the Arabian Sea will be inspected and then turn back. Any military ship that refuses inspection will be fired upon and seized. The ambassador from Iceland is expelled and the Icelandic Embassy in Kabul will be shut down until further notice."
-President Mirwais Khan Hotak
Effects: Nationalists and Ultranationalists are emboldened by this announcement.
-President Mirwais Khan Hotak
Effects: Nationalists and Ultranationalists are emboldened by this announcement.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
The local tavern was hardly the place to be up to date on Russias most current political news, but a five minute discussion with some of the regulars could convince an unwary traveller otherwise. Within The Czars Arms, accessible only via a quiet alley in deepest Moscow, conversations ranged from the state of the nations military, to the sweeping reclaiming of former Russian lands, to the effect of the economy on drink prices. And rarely did the conversations agree with another.
For one, the Kan was apparently ready to launch an assault into Europe in the wake of the recent wars. No! He was just a pawn of the Baltic Alliance, ready to do their bidding. Actually it was the leaders of Germany and the SRO who had bowed before the Kan just last month. Or was it like one gentleman claimed (after his tongue had been loosened by a few ales) and the Baltic Alliance was nothing more than a front, to quell the fears of nations overseas worried by the more militant members of Europe.
The Ukraine had fallen! No! It had accepted ruler-ship from St. Petersburg peacefully, willingly even! But then what about what that trader from Kiev had been saying just last night? After a celebrated royal marriage, the King of the Ukraine had dropped dead after a year? Awfully convenient for the Kan to just step in, was it not? But such talk would end quickly - no one questions the motives of the Kan.
But then what about that nobleman who had travelled to Europe recently, returning with news of advanced German weaponry and French naval power. No! He had spoken about how Russian dominance was greater than either! But then, why were new factories being constructed in the Ukraine if Russia was already greater than all other nations? Why was the Kan demanding more recruits for the army, when there was no talk of a Russian navy?
Inevitably, such discussions dissolved into something more aggressive, and the debaters had to be thrown outside. In such an event, no solid conclusions could be found, and the state of Russia could only be known by her leaders
2IC into creating an army.
2IC into building a factory in Ukraine.
1IC invested into Idel-Ural
For one, the Kan was apparently ready to launch an assault into Europe in the wake of the recent wars. No! He was just a pawn of the Baltic Alliance, ready to do their bidding. Actually it was the leaders of Germany and the SRO who had bowed before the Kan just last month. Or was it like one gentleman claimed (after his tongue had been loosened by a few ales) and the Baltic Alliance was nothing more than a front, to quell the fears of nations overseas worried by the more militant members of Europe.
The Ukraine had fallen! No! It had accepted ruler-ship from St. Petersburg peacefully, willingly even! But then what about what that trader from Kiev had been saying just last night? After a celebrated royal marriage, the King of the Ukraine had dropped dead after a year? Awfully convenient for the Kan to just step in, was it not? But such talk would end quickly - no one questions the motives of the Kan.
But then what about that nobleman who had travelled to Europe recently, returning with news of advanced German weaponry and French naval power. No! He had spoken about how Russian dominance was greater than either! But then, why were new factories being constructed in the Ukraine if Russia was already greater than all other nations? Why was the Kan demanding more recruits for the army, when there was no talk of a Russian navy?
Inevitably, such discussions dissolved into something more aggressive, and the debaters had to be thrown outside. In such an event, no solid conclusions could be found, and the state of Russia could only be known by her leaders
2IC into creating an army.
2IC into building a factory in Ukraine.
1IC invested into Idel-Ural
kiwitt
Modern Earth Modder
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Lighthearter
President of the United States
I, Lighthearter, hereby drop out. Sorry, I can't make time for this.
I present Arya with a writ of succession making him the King of Hawaii.
-L
I present Arya with a writ of succession making him the King of Hawaii.
-L
News of Hawaii's sudden decree making them a British Colony caused quite a shock when it reached North America. Many in Librulstan and elsewhere in the Americas are outraged at the thought of a European Imperialist Power controlling the important Central Pacific islands. President David Johnson has issued a statement voicing his disapproval of British ownership of Hawaii.
arya126
Squad Leader
British COLONY? NO! It shall be an equal part of our nation, as will all other territories we incorporate. And stop calling us IMPERIALIST! Go read the definition of the word. It does not apply to britain. In fact I would only give the word to Spain, Rome, Japan, and possibly Australia, depending on how they treat all of these claims of theirs.
Zack
99% hot gas
im·pe·ri·al·ism
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–noun
1.
the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.
   [im-peer-ee-uh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.
Tecknojock
Keeping the world running
California to, as well as the rest of the UNA is upset at Hawaii's decree and asks Britain not to act on in. Any act to do so will be considered a direct attack on the nations of the UNA and will be backed up with the force of 10 nations.
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Hawaii is in OCEANIA.
arya126
Squad Leader
The UNA has no business in deciding who controls Hawaii. You had not objected to it when I had claimed it earlier this turn, and it has nothing to do with you anyway. Hawaii is rightfully british as their former king has issued a writ of succession proclaiming I am the rightful heir.
1. The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.
2. The system, policies, or practices of such a government.
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the policy or practice of extending a state's rule over other territories
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) an instance or policy of aggressive behaviour by one state against another
3. the extension or attempted extension of authority, influence, power, etc., by any person, country, institution, etc. cultural imperialism
4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a system of imperial government or rule by an emperor
5. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the spirit, character, authority, etc., of an empire
6. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) advocacy of or support for any form of imperialism
imperialist adj & n
imperialistic adj
imperialistically adv
Is the proper and full context of the definitions, not including:
the creation and maintenance of an unequal economic, cultural, and territorial relationship, usually between states and often in the form of an empire, based on domination and subordination.
Which is the definition from the Dictionary of Human geography which i think is most clear and is closest in context in which you are accusing me of.
By these definitions, any and every country in the game except for ones that have limited themselves to a single territory can be considered Imperialist. please stop flinging the word around, as it can simply mean one country is controlling territory that is not theirs, which doesnt have to be bad.
1. The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.
2. The system, policies, or practices of such a government.
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the policy or practice of extending a state's rule over other territories
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) an instance or policy of aggressive behaviour by one state against another
3. the extension or attempted extension of authority, influence, power, etc., by any person, country, institution, etc. cultural imperialism
4. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a system of imperial government or rule by an emperor
5. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) the spirit, character, authority, etc., of an empire
6. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) advocacy of or support for any form of imperialism
imperialist adj & n
imperialistic adj
imperialistically adv
Is the proper and full context of the definitions, not including:
the creation and maintenance of an unequal economic, cultural, and territorial relationship, usually between states and often in the form of an empire, based on domination and subordination.
Which is the definition from the Dictionary of Human geography which i think is most clear and is closest in context in which you are accusing me of.
By these definitions, any and every country in the game except for ones that have limited themselves to a single territory can be considered Imperialist. please stop flinging the word around, as it can simply mean one country is controlling territory that is not theirs, which doesnt have to be bad.
To be honest, this actually isn't imperialism because Hawaii's leader wanted this to be so. Imperialism would have been if he took it by force or economic domination. I'm not saying that's bad, because that's just about the only way to expand in this game. Heck, Teck, you're expanding into Mexico. I really don't approve of excessive imperialism, like Britain and France tried earlier, and Japan and Rome are trying now.
GhostWriter16
Deity
We oppose Britain, not because we care about who owns this land, but because they opposed our claim in Manchuria.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Both of which are in China. Your point?
Manchuria is Japanese, we will defend ourselves if needed.
Manchuria is Japanese, we will defend ourselves if needed.
For the last time, I'm Siam. The gold guys in southeast Asia.
Xian and Han have both agreed that Manchuria is Chinese, as have numerous other countries and common sense. You don't even hold it.
Manchuria is not Japanese. Japan is Japanese. Korea is Japanese, but only because you hold it (culture is still Korean). This would extend to Indochina, because when I get it, the culture will be Vietnamese, not Siamese, unless it is held for at least 50 years.
Xian and Han have both agreed that Manchuria is Chinese, as have numerous other countries and common sense. You don't even hold it.
Manchuria is not Japanese. Japan is Japanese. Korea is Japanese, but only because you hold it (culture is still Korean). This would extend to Indochina, because when I get it, the culture will be Vietnamese, not Siamese, unless it is held for at least 50 years.
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