Is a wet sponge the equivalent of water?

[LuckyAC]

But the two can't be equated, which is the point. Greater intelligence might cause greater education, but not always, and not with a strong enough correlation to be useful from a statistical point of view.

Has anyone ever claimed that they could be equated? Any statistically significant correlation is valuable, I don't know what you mean exactly. Of course, I'm not sure what it would be valuable for, really, since judging expected intelligence by education in isolation rarely comes up, especially since there is no real definition of intelligence.

If we're relating it to the other thread, if literally the only thing about someone that I knew was their education level, yes, I would have more baseline respect for the more educated one. By why in the world would I be judging my respect for someone I knew so little about?

 

[Bozo Erectus]

But seriously, we have to use approximations and first impressions in everyday life. We judge on appearances until we can know more. We look at past experiences to try and make sense of the current situation. And we can usually assume that if someone is educated, he will be intelligent. It's a fairly safe assumption until we find the contrary to be true.

You wont go broke betting that PHDs are smart, thats for sure. But three letters after ones name is no absolute guarantee of intelligence. On that level, I think people can have a very specialized sort of intelligence. For instance, they can run rings around just about everyone in math, lets say. They can win awards, be recognized in the field as prodigies, even geniuses. But remove them from that realm of numbers, and they can be completely lost, confused and barely able to function at even an average level.

 

[Irish Caesar]

You wont go broke betting that PHDs are smart, thats for sure. But three letters after ones name is no absolute guarantee of intelligence. On that level, I think people can have a very specialized sort of intelligence. For instance, they can run rings around just about everyone in math, lets say. They can win awards, be recognized in the field as prodigies, even geniuses. But remove them from that realm of numbers, and they can be completely lost, confused and barely able to function at even an average level.

Certainly true.

But then, there are many kinds of intelligence. It's safe to say that a PhD in mathematics will have a high degree of mathematical intelligence, but whether that implies anything about his interpersonal intelligence is something I'm not going to make any sort of guess on (although pboily has posted plenty of jokes that would imply that no mathematician has any social skills, but this is purely anecdotal).

 

[Gogf]

No, there is a huge difference between how smart you are and how much you know. But if you're smart, you'll get a sufficient amount of education.

 

[Catharsis]

To be intelligent means something else entirely; it means that you're able to reason very well, even if you don't have a lot of facts at hand (or memorized).

So logicians are the only intelligent people? Surely not... the art critic, for example, is an intelligent person, but his job requires no logic whatsoever.

 

[Leonel]

Nope. Someone may have whatever the biggest degree in the world is but they can be not intelligent enough to see an e-mail scam for what it is. And someone may have flunked out of kindergarten but may be the most intelligent person you could ever meet.

I think intelligence is linked to character and the stronger character a person has, the more intelligent they will be.

 

[WillJ]

Let's take bets on the statistical correlation between education and IQ.

I have my money on .47.

 

[Catharsis]

Let's take bets on the statistical correlation between education and IQ.

I have my money on .47.

I for one would be very interested to know the statistical correlation coefficient of education against IQ. That's the kind of stupid statistic I like.

 

[History_Buff]

There is most definitely a correlation, and it holds more and more true as you move up the ladder generally. If we have to quantify it, I'll take .61

In many cases having a degree is just a measure of character and determination.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

The votes and responses in the 'respect' thread lead me directly to this next one:

Do you equate education with intelligence? Do you believe that its possible for someone to be highly educated and at the same time, not very intelligent, or actually flat out stupid?

Can I answer with a qualifier?

Someone who has the opportunity to educate himself and doesn't isn't very smart. People who DID have the opportunity to go to college and didn't, or did and dropped out, and then started saying that you can be intelligent without being educated, may be saying something true but they sure aren't examples.

Someone who educates himself but learns nothing is also not very smart. Someone who goes to college and comes out typing runon sentences with poor spelling, or who didn't abandon the various stupid ideas he came in with (God made the earth in seven days! Alternative medicine is fo' real!) is also not very smart.

So, generally I do not respect people who could have learned and didn't.

 

[Nylan]

"You think you Jedi would know the difference between knowledge and...wisdom"
-Dex

 

[Guangxi]

Does education equate with intelligence?

well, no. going through college does not make you smarter, it makes you more knowledgeable. for example, someone can know everything about sternberg`s mongolia, but still spin around when someone points out a flying snookertable behind them.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

No a wet sponge isn't... that's what we're talking about right? Why then is the OP all about intelligence?

 

[pboily]

I hope that there is no positive correlation between intelligence and education, because that would make the world a stupid, stupid place.

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

The world is a stupid place in many parts...

 

[civverguy]

Knowledge and wisdom are two different things.

 

[pboily]

The world is a stupid place in many parts...

But is it a supid, stupid place?

 

[Prince_Imrahil]

But is it a supid, stupid place?

Considering for all the millions of stupid stupid people, billions are content just to enjoy their lives, I guess, as a whole it's not.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Someone who has the opportunity to educate himself and doesn't isn't very smart.

Even if he/she drops education in favour of, say, professional sports to make a lot more money than he/she could ever made with the education?

 

[Mise]

I think that you have to be intelligent to have a high level and quality of education. For example, I doubt many people who did PhDs at Harvard aren't extremely intelligent.

However, you can be intelligent without having a good education.

EDIT: 5 people voted yes...? WTH?