Is Britain about to leave the EU?

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I only just saw this!

@Plotinus certainly doesn't behave in the manner of a Leave voter and certainly does use proper diction and declension.

Thank you for the analysis - and I was absolutely not a Leave voter, so I'm not sure whether that supports or undermines your point!
 
Thank you for the analysis - and I was absolutely not a Leave voter, so I'm not sure whether that supports or undermines your point!
Well, the wording certainly does happen to be ambiguous and I'm trying to figure out what I meant back then. I suspect you do support some point I was trying to make about people being classy and Arakhor trying to use improper spelling and grammar as markers of ‘Leaver’-ness.
 
Yet the Brexit disaster continues :crazyeye:

Thats because your currency has fallen compared with the €, on the other hand pensioners that have retired within the EU have seen the value of their £ fall
I think that the UK just got tired of all there EU payments going to the poorer member states of the EU, Unlike Germany which has war guilt issues and think its their moral obligation to rebuild Europe.

As one of the net contributor economies to the EU and a first world, the UK will probably have to weather the transitions out fine.
Places like Greece on the other hand which is in the news yet again are going to have a disastrous Grexit
 
Thats because your currency has fallen compared with the €,
on the other hand pensioners that have retired within the EU have seen the value of their £ fall

Quite so. I have never maintained that there are no disadvantages to Leaving. The thing is the UK and its government have to decide what is best for the UK
as a whole and not let special interests such as financial services companies demanding passporting or those who have retired abroad dictate what happens.
 
It's all just leading to a newly fragmented Europe when things were really starting to come together. It's really unfortunate. The only group/country/entity to benefit from this is Russia. Brexit voters are short-sighted and self involved.
 
Very little in real life is wonderful, and for that very little, somewhere along the line, someone had to work really hard and make some sacrifices.
 
And it was all going so good in the EU prior to this brexit business... :mischief:

I believe there was a little thing called two world wars :confused:
 
The UK's ambassador to the EU has decided he doesn't want any more to do with this mess.
 
Well that is not confirmed yet but it is likely.
 
Someone else coming out and saying that the government's timetable is unrealistic? Well, shiver my timbers.
 
Places like Greece on the other hand which is in the news yet again are going to have a disastrous Grexit

The one reason grexit may be disastrous is the greek government having wrecked its own country for years following the diktats of Brussels and Frankfurt. Instead of exiting and rebuilding, they've been groveling and getting incrementally poorer, letting their infrastructure degrade for lack of funding and the know-how dissapear for lack of replacement of personnel. When they finally are forced to leave they'll do it in a terrible situation, much worse than if they had left in 2008, or in 2012.
 
So the Brexiter are laying the ground work for a hard Brexit.
If thats the case then UK had better prepare itself, for it good and hard. Two years its a long time things can change by then, but I wouldnt bank the UK economy on the EU caving in as it is the larger trading partner more likely the UK will have to give concessions.

“I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power,” he wrote.
“I hope that you will support each other in those difficult moments where you have to deliver messages that are disagreeable to those who need to hear them.”
Sir Ivan unexpectedly quit just months after he sparked controversy by warning the Government that a post-Brexit trade deal could take a decade to finalise, and even then may fail to get ratified by member states.

The former permanent secretary to the Treasury called Sir Ivan’s resignation a “wilful and total destruction” of expertise amid fears he has been “hounded out” by hostile pro-Brexite
Sir Ivan said unlike in Brussels, “serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall”.

“Increasing market access to other markets and consumer choice in our own, depends on the deals, multilateral, plurilateral and bilateral that we strike, and the terms that we agree.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-brexit-negotiations-article-50-a7508251.html
 
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