Ferocitus
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Wrong, sorry.
Phil was born in Mon Repos, Corfu. Greek enough for you?
His father was prince of Greece and Denmark. That has the makings of a double tragedy eh?
You know Hamlet I presume, the play with the famous speech about bees.
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Phil was born in Mon Repos, Corfu. Greek enough for you?
His father was prince of Greece and Denmark. That has the makings of a double tragedy eh?
You know Hamlet I presume, the play with the famous speech about bees.
Wrong, sorry.
Phil was born in Mon Repos, Corfu. Greek enough for you?
His father was prince of Greece and Denmark. That has the makings of a double tragedy eh?
You know Hamlet I presume, the play with the famous speech about bees.
Well, yeah, they were born here. Konstantine even tried to get Mon Repos back a few years ago.
FriendlyFire
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Those were the good colonies unlike India, south Africa or Asia pacific
Also UK is for free movement in exchange for free trade
Anyway, open borders with 2-3 countries on the other end of the world is rather bizarre. If one is planning to go that far they can spend a tiny fraction of the time to renew a visa/similar.
Ferocitus
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Phil was also baptised into the Greek Orthodox Church.
"Phil the Greek" is an old Australian term mocking the "purity" of the English royal family.
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The irony there being Australia, Canada and New Zealand are all likely to be less "white" than most European countries. Suspect these clowns don't know that.
Mongoloid Cow
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But the three countries are perhaps the three the UK can most easily forge mutually acceptable treaties with post-Brexit. Even though free movement seems terribly unlikely and I personally don't think it is a good idea, it is an initiation of future negotiations from a more positive angle.
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I think that depends whether or not one counts Southern Europeans and Slavs as "white".
Does Australia need jewellery and marmalade that badly though? And do England really want more dickhead backpackers?
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My guess is that Scotland will seek Dominion status.
There could be a second referendum in 2017 but all the balls will have to line up for the SNP.
Corbyn will have to stay leader of the Labour party. I can not see labour being able to mount such an effective better together campaign. If he is replaced by another London MP as leader it will be slightly better but they will be portrayed as the London elite, as they were in the Brexit vote.
There will have to be bad economic news and the Scotish voters will have to believe that it is due to Brexit. The GDP of the EU is projected to go side ways for the next few years, this will have to stay the same. Brexiteers are giving the impression that trade deals can be negotiated quickly, so they will be judged. The relationship of May with Trump in negotiations, if nothing appears to be happening, could be damaging. I could see that May be lampooned as Trump's, Shih Tzus, only brought out in her leather trousers for a photo op.
The government will not have made any plans for an extra £350 million a week to be spent on the NHS.
The Scottish voters will have to believe that their views are being completely ignored on Brexit.
HAND
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Just an update on the Article 50 side of things.. Corbyn is not going to whip Labour MPs in the likely Commons vote on triggering Article 50. In other words there could be a very large Labour rebellion against the Labour leadership in voting for triggering article 50. Along with the Liberal Democrats, SNP, Green Party and Tory rebels there could be a sizable "No" vote even if it ends up losing.
If the no vote actually wins, there will no doubt be a constitutional crisis.
If the no vote actually wins, there will no doubt be a constitutional crisis.
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So what?
I never claimed that I have proof that the leaders of the Scots Nationalists had not read the treaties.
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My guess is that Scotland will seek Dominion status.
There could be a second referendum in 2017 but all the balls will have to line up for the SNP.
Corbyn will have to stay leader of the Labour party. I can not see labour being able to mount such an effective better together campaign. If he is replaced by another London MP as leader it will be slightly better but they will be portrayed as the London elite, as they were in the Brexit vote.
There will have to be bad economic news and the Scotish voters will have to believe that it is due to Brexit. The GDP of the EU is projected to go side ways for the next few years, this will have to stay the same. Brexiteers are giving the impression that trade deals can be negotiated quickly, so they will be judged. The relationship of May with Trump in negotiations, if nothing appears to be happening, could be damaging. I could see that May be lampooned as Trump's, Shih Tzus, only brought out in her leather trousers for a photo op.
The government will not have made any plans for an extra £350 million a week to be spent on the NHS.
The Scottish voters will have to believe that their views are being completely ignored on Brexit.
All very good points.
It is appropriate for Labour to campaign for voters to vote Labour for Labour candidates,
but I am of the opinion that Labour should not adopt a better together stance at all.
I think it best for Jeremy Corbyn not to whip MPs. If Remainer inclined MPs representing London constituencies that returned
a strong pro Remain vote do not want to trigger Article 50, I think that they should be permitted to vote as their conscience dictates.
Trying to whip MPs would just make it an unnecessary internal party dispute.
FriendlyFire
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Australia has said it is going to sign a free trade agreement with Indonesia and the EU first.
Were signing a FTA with the EU anyways to trade with the UK. Signing up with the UK again would be a easy and realtively quick.
The UK is looking at Commonwealth countries to fill up the hole if a Hard Brexit is enacted, but the numbers just dont add up.
The entire commonwealth makes up 9% of total UK trade, while the EU makes up 44%
EnglishEdward
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Congratulations on repatriating Vegemite.
We do not mind them, but merely request they remember to take their back packs
off before boarding London underground trains in the Aussie rules football style.
Where did you read about that fascinating and clearly endemic practice?
That's the only morally consistent thing to do. If MPs must respect the will of the people and all that, any MP not voting the way their constituents did should be subject to immediate recall. Otherwise, they would be "enemies of the people", no?
Mega Tsunami
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I will be surprised if there are enough MPs who will go against their own constituents (if they vote as per their constituents, the vote would be something like 400-250 for Leave).
But if they do vote against article 50, Mrs May would have to call a GE.
And if she wins article 50 she will call a GE anyway.
A recent poll I saw had the Tories on 42%, some 17% ahead of Labour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
Oerdin
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Oh, yes, you did. The whole Brexit problem would have gone away if people like Junckers had given even a little instead of trying to stonewall. The reality is any political arrangement in a democracy must fit with the will of the people or the people will lash out. The EU made itself to inflexible to accommodate the will of the people so they voted for Brexit. Stop trying to pretend the inflexible EU doesn't carry part of the blame (most of the blame if we are honest).
The hilarious part is the reforms the UK pushed for and which people like Junckers told them were impossible probably will end up happening. As usual with the EU they are a day late and a dollar short.
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