Chukchi Husky
Lone Wolf
Back when I was in school, one of my history teachers, who was Welsh, had that mindset.
Is Britain about to leave the EU?
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Back when I was in school, one of my history teachers, who was Welsh, had that mindset.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Saxons back to Saxony, Jutes back to Jutland, Angles back to... Angle-land, wherever that is.
Chukchi Husky
Lone Wolf
Well, naturally. All that's good and great in Europe is German.
Well, doesn't the old term german have the same root as germ? Sounds not so good
Then again, guns, germans and steel sounds more plausible tbh.
Barbarians don't get to have endonyms. Always exonyms.
Oerdin
Deity
The Dutch government was recently say stupid nonsense about how it is completely impossible to have free trade. What horse droppings.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
It is funny because everyone has different names for Germans, my favourite is the Russian Немецких
Yeah, the Slavs go for calling the Germans mutes. A lot.
That might have to do with the declarations by the UK's foreign minister which I quoted this very week?
Oerdin
Deity
No, because the hard truth is even with hard Brexit, which should be the goal (meaning full preservation of national sovereignty) , free trade will eventually happen despite the idiotic claims that it is impossible. There is zero need to give away sovereignty.
Ah, any opinion contrary to yours is idiotic. I've finally been enlightened.
So, rest of the world: has anyone noticed a certain bill regarding surveillance powers making its way through Parliament? Or more of the NHS failing?
Also, some £370 million are to be allocated to refurbishing Buckingham Palace.
So, rest of the world: has anyone noticed a certain bill regarding surveillance powers making its way through Parliament? Or more of the NHS failing?
Also, some £370 million are to be allocated to refurbishing Buckingham Palace.
aelf
Ashen One
That's Leavers for you. Opposing the globalist machine that is the EU with hysterical nationalism and a huge dose of xenophobia.
Of all the people who can oppose the trends set by the EU, English Leavers are arguably one of the worst groups and will set their own cause back for decades to come.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Have Remainers not been equally hysterical at times?
Mega Tsunami
Emperor
It is clear our Judges hate the fact we are leaving their EU gravy-train as they get more and more political (eg that Supreme Court judge passing judgement on Brexit legal technicalities during a lecture the other day!)
As a result, I believe we should try and avoid any more of this ‘Courts vs the People’ confrontation. Nothing good will come from it for any of us if they manage to find some silly, technical legal reason why Brexit should be delayed.
Instead the Government should simply put a bill before parliament to allow article 50 to go ahead – with a promise of a vote on any deal we might reach.
Doing that will let us know just what our MPs actually think of our democratic demand to leave the EU.
MPs voted by a massive 6 to 1 to have the vote in the first place so to refuse to accept the result would be astonishing to say the least.
Apparently if each MP voted according to their own constituency, the Leaves would win something like 400 to 250.
I suspect that failed politicians like Clegg and Milliband will vote against it even though their constituencies voted Leave (Milliband’s was 68%!).
Must most surely won’t. (Will they?)
From the BBC
Drop Brexit case appeal, senior Tories urge May
Theresa May should abandon an appeal against the court ruling that means MPs must vote on the UK leaving the EU, leading Conservatives say.
Sir Oliver Letwin, former head of the government's Brexit preparations, and two former law officers said the case should not go to the Supreme Court.
Instead, they want ministers to bring a bill to Parliament to start the process of Brexit as soon as possible.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38034411
As a result, I believe we should try and avoid any more of this ‘Courts vs the People’ confrontation. Nothing good will come from it for any of us if they manage to find some silly, technical legal reason why Brexit should be delayed.
Instead the Government should simply put a bill before parliament to allow article 50 to go ahead – with a promise of a vote on any deal we might reach.
Doing that will let us know just what our MPs actually think of our democratic demand to leave the EU.
MPs voted by a massive 6 to 1 to have the vote in the first place so to refuse to accept the result would be astonishing to say the least.
Apparently if each MP voted according to their own constituency, the Leaves would win something like 400 to 250.
I suspect that failed politicians like Clegg and Milliband will vote against it even though their constituencies voted Leave (Milliband’s was 68%!).
Must most surely won’t. (Will they?)
From the BBC
Drop Brexit case appeal, senior Tories urge May
Theresa May should abandon an appeal against the court ruling that means MPs must vote on the UK leaving the EU, leading Conservatives say.
Sir Oliver Letwin, former head of the government's Brexit preparations, and two former law officers said the case should not go to the Supreme Court.
Instead, they want ministers to bring a bill to Parliament to start the process of Brexit as soon as possible.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38034411
Mega Tsunami
Emperor
How times have changed. In 1939 the Government, not parliament, decided to go to war against Germany. Imagine what Europe would look like today if they decided to leave it up to parliament.
Sometimes a government’s got to do what a government’s got to do.
From the Independent a few weeks ago:
If we want to know what role Parliament should play in Brexit and Article 50, we should look to WWII
Let’s go back just 76 years to an event with which Brexit has sometimes been compared in terms of its importance – the opening stages of the Second World War. On 1 September 1939, German troops had invaded Poland.
Neville Chamberlain was Prime Minister. The House of Commons met on 2 September expecting the Prime Minister to announce an ultimatum telling the Germans that unless they withdrew there would be war. Instead he prevaricated. When Arthur Greenwood, acting Labour leader, rose to speak, the Conservative member, Leo Amery, bawled, “Speak for England, Arthur.” After the House broke up in confusion, Greenwood went to Chamberlain and told him “it would be impossible to hold the House”. The next morning the British ultimatum was delivered and the Second World War began.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...y-what-role-look-to-world-war-2-a7355801.html
Sometimes a government’s got to do what a government’s got to do.
From the Independent a few weeks ago:
If we want to know what role Parliament should play in Brexit and Article 50, we should look to WWII
Let’s go back just 76 years to an event with which Brexit has sometimes been compared in terms of its importance – the opening stages of the Second World War. On 1 September 1939, German troops had invaded Poland.
Neville Chamberlain was Prime Minister. The House of Commons met on 2 September expecting the Prime Minister to announce an ultimatum telling the Germans that unless they withdrew there would be war. Instead he prevaricated. When Arthur Greenwood, acting Labour leader, rose to speak, the Conservative member, Leo Amery, bawled, “Speak for England, Arthur.” After the House broke up in confusion, Greenwood went to Chamberlain and told him “it would be impossible to hold the House”. The next morning the British ultimatum was delivered and the Second World War began.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...y-what-role-look-to-world-war-2-a7355801.html
Really? I thought Brexit was all about Parliamentary and legal sovereignty? Restoring powers to British courts and British MPs? Don't tell me that was also all a lie.
Mega Tsunami
Emperor
Sorry Arakhor, I don’t understand your post.
Meanwhile, one of our so-called ‘liberal elitists’ has had a right go at the EU.
More amazingly, he is pretty much right.
Who would want to be a member of this organisation?
Archbishop of Canterbury claims 'corruption and bureaucracy' in the EU have impoverished member countries with Greece being the 'clearest example'
The Archbishop of Canterbury yesterday condemned the EU for turning Greece into ‘the biggest debtors’ prison in European history’.
In a speech in Paris, the Most Reverend Justin Welby said EU policies had kept entire countries in desperate circumstances impoverishing many citizens.
And he said the inequality means some Europeans enjoy unprecedented living standards while for others EU leaders have made things worse through ‘centralisation, corruption and bureaucracy’.
The Archbishop’s comments appear to mark a U-turn from June, when he backed the Remain side in the referendum. During the speech yesterday at the Catholic Institute of Paris, where he was awarded an honorary doctorate, he said that ‘in southern Europe particularly, talk of economic success would be met with confusion and anger’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...member-countries-Greece-clearest-example.html
Meanwhile, one of our so-called ‘liberal elitists’ has had a right go at the EU.
More amazingly, he is pretty much right.
Who would want to be a member of this organisation?
Archbishop of Canterbury claims 'corruption and bureaucracy' in the EU have impoverished member countries with Greece being the 'clearest example'
The Archbishop of Canterbury yesterday condemned the EU for turning Greece into ‘the biggest debtors’ prison in European history’.
In a speech in Paris, the Most Reverend Justin Welby said EU policies had kept entire countries in desperate circumstances impoverishing many citizens.
And he said the inequality means some Europeans enjoy unprecedented living standards while for others EU leaders have made things worse through ‘centralisation, corruption and bureaucracy’.
The Archbishop’s comments appear to mark a U-turn from June, when he backed the Remain side in the referendum. During the speech yesterday at the Catholic Institute of Paris, where he was awarded an honorary doctorate, he said that ‘in southern Europe particularly, talk of economic success would be met with confusion and anger’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...member-countries-Greece-clearest-example.html
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