Is Britain about to leave the EU?

[Arakhor]

Your game of pretending the people's vote to leave the EU some how doesn't mean they voted to leave the EU is incredulous.

That would be because I didn't say that, so yes, it's literally incredulous.

 

[EnglishEdward]

No EU member states can, nor will, negotiate individual trade deals on its own behalf with non-EU nations/trade blocks. The EU nations always negotiate as a block, for obvious reasons.

There is a distinction between a pragmatic arrangement (high level, interim and informal) and a trade deal (formal, legalistic and detailed).

The Swiss are among the wealthiest people on Earth. Highest GDP per capita after Luxembourg on Earth. The only nation in the UN with Direct Democracy in place.
I think the Swiss feel just fine.

Exactly, and Switzerland is outside of the European Union political regime.

Not that I expect that the UK leaving the EU will make us as wealthy as the Swiss.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Switzerland's success isn't that easy to replicate. There are already enough tax havens, and there's currently no need to launder gold that has been removed from Jewish teeth.

 

[EnglishEdward]

Brexit: Boris Johnson says countries queuing up for trade deals

I'm picturing vultures over a dying animal.

Actually that is one of my four big risks of Brexit. Conservative party ministers will talk themselves into doing daft deals.

The UK needs a critical review panel with some experienced and disinterested busnessmen to review proposed deals.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Is Britain really leaving the single market?

Radical

 

[Silurian]

HSBC has been threatening to move jobs from the UK for awhile but May's speech has given them the green light. These 2000 jobs will be high tax paying plus we will also lose thousands of lower paying support jobs and general employment in London due to the reduced spending.

From BBC

"Two of the largest investment banks in the City of London have confirmed that some staff will definitely have to move abroad when the UK leaves the EU.

HSBC's chief executive, Stuart Gulliver, told Bloomberg he was preparing to move 1,000 staff from London to Paris.

And Axel Weber, boss of Swiss bank UBS, told the BBC "about 1,000" of its 5,000 London jobs could be hit by Brexit.

The comments underline that many thousands of banking jobs may move."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38663537

 

[HAND]

HSBC have been threatening to move for years, it's their modus operandi.

 

[Verbose]

Switzerland's success isn't that easy to replicate. There are already enough tax havens, and there's currently no need to launder gold that has been removed from Jewish teeth.

Labour productivity is one of these weak spots of the UK economy. It's quite the opposite with the Swiss. Which actually has more to do with the current excellent financial situation than their skills in questionable historic dentistry.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

And their financial situation has a lot to do with their banks' past and current shadyness.

 

[Verbose]

And their financial situation has a lot to do with their banks' past and current shadyness.

Sure, but 90% or so of its economy is other than banking.

 

[dutchfire]

Actually that is one of my four big risks of Brexit. Conservative party ministers will talk themselves into doing daft deals.

The UK needs a critical review panel with some experienced and disinterested busnessmen to review proposed deals.

The British people have had enough of experts.

 

[Oerdin]

Is Britain really leaving the single market?

Radical

They will eventually get free trade, which is all they really want because the job loses on the continent are going to force the hands of the Eurocrats who want to punish the UK for daring to tell them no. They just have to hang tough and realize the economic war the Eurocrats are pushing due to their poor hurt egos is going to hurt the EU more especially when President Trump sides with the UK as he already has made clear he will do.

It would be better if petulant children like Junckers were out of the picture and a trade war could be avoided but the arrogance of the Eurocrats seems immune to reason.

 

[dutchfire]

It would be better if petulant children like Farage were out of the picture and a trade war could be avoided but the arrogance of the Brexiteers seems immune to reason.

 

[Verbose]

They will eventually get free trade, which is all they really want because the job loses on the continent are going to force the hands of the Eurocrats who want to punish the UK for daring to tell them no. They just have to hang tough and realize the economic war the Eurocrats are pushing due to their poor hurt egos is going to hurt the EU more especially when President Trump sides with the UK as he already has made clear he will do.

It would be better if petulant children like Junckers were out of the picture and a trade war could be avoided but the arrogance of the Eurocrats seems immune to reason.

The petulance is this bizarre insistence on being granted special privileges while offering nothing in return. I'm sure both the UK and US would love to be showered with tribute — who wouldn't — but why would anyone?

 

[EnglishEdward]

The petulance is this bizarre insistence on being granted special privileges while offering nothing in return.

The UK traded with the original six before we joined the EEC at the start of 1973.

Is it really a special privilege to propose doing that again?

 

[EnglishEdward]

And their financial situation has a lot to do with their banks' past and current shadyness.

I have difficulty determining if you are writing about the UK or Switzerland or both?

 

[Lillefix]

The UK traded with the original six before we joined the EEC at the start of 1973.

Is it really a special privilege to propose doing that again?

I think they are allowed to trade with the EU to all their heart's desire. The problem is that Theresa May wants to do it on terms that are unacceptable to the EU.

 

[innonimatu]

The petulance is this bizarre insistence on being granted special privileges while offering nothing in return. I'm sure both the UK and US would love to be showered with tribute — who wouldn't — but why would anyone?

Hos does a deal on tariffs offers "nothing in return"? We lower ours, you lower yours.

Demanding more, insisting that such a deal can only be made if it includes other deals, is also a valid demand. But in this instance it is the EU that is making additional demands, not just the UK. The EU wants to bundle immigration with it, and a payment on top. The UK wants to bundle "financial services".

 

[Lillefix]

But in this instance it is the EU that is making additional demands, not just the UK. The EU wants to bundle immigration with it, and a payment on top. The UK wants to bundle "financial services".

This is not particular to the EU. The Indians also wanted more open borders in return for a trade deal.

 

[Traitorfish]

Oh, stop pretending to be a simple Simon. Just what exactly do you imagine leaving the EU means? Hint: It means leaving the EU.

Your game of pretending the people's vote to leave the EU some how doesn't mean they voted to leave the EU is incredulous.

Well, more Americans voted for Clinton than Trump, and look how that turned out.

Politics is very complicated.

The UK needs a critical review panel with some experienced and disinterested busnessmen to review proposed deals.

And trade union leaders, surely? Or was all that noise about "protecting British workers" just so much bus-signage?