Lillefix
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It's a new unprecedented situation. If there's a will I'm sure they can find a way to legally fast track them into the union. The problem of course is Spain.
Is Britain about to leave the EU?
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It's a new unprecedented situation. If there's a will I'm sure they can find a way to legally fast track them into the union. The problem of course is Spain.
Scotland has a well established name and brand. It is the remainder of England, Wales and Northern Ireland that will struggle to come up with a name that doesn't sound like a railway company. UKEWNI doesn't really roll off the tongue.
Mega Tsunami
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From the Independent
EU says independent Scotland would have to join queue to apply for membership
Holyrood would have to seek membership of the European Union under Article 49 in the event of a 'Yes' vote in a future referendum
The EU has said an independent Scotland would have to join a queue of nations seeking membership of the bloc, after Nicola Sturgeon announced plans for a second independence referendum.
Wading into the debate on the Scottish Government’s plans for a second vote, a spokesman for the European Commission (EC) said Scotland would not be granted automatic access to the EU if it split from the rest of the UK.
At a briefing in Brussels, Margaritis Schinas said: "The Barroso doctrine, would that apply? Yes that would apply, obviously."
He was referencing former commission president Jose Manuel Barroso, who set out the legal view that if one part of an EU country became an independent state it would have to apply for EU membership.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...and-join-queue-membership-apply-a7627201.html
If for nothing else, I can't really object to the Scots wanting to test the voters on the independence issue again, since the circumstances have changed dramatically since the last vote. If for nothing else, to finally break with the Government in London and its unparalleled hypocrisy on the Brexit/EU issue.
So claims the Telegraph.
See instead:
Questioned about the exact offer she would put to voters on an independent Scotland’s relationship with the EU, Sturgeon carefully avoided confirming she would call for full EU membership. She also sidestepped questions on which currency an independent Scotland might use, saying the answer would come “in good time”.
That suggests the Scottish government could eventually propose the so-called “Norway option” of joining the European free trade area instead of full EU membership if a large minority of pro-independence voters continued to show scepticism about full integration.
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That suggests the Scottish government could eventually propose the so-called “Norway option” of joining the European free trade area instead of full EU membership if a large minority of pro-independence voters continued to show scepticism about full integration.
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Of course the economic deficit would have to be solved (see here for some analysis), i.e. to decide on a currency, whether to enter the EU fully or opt for a deal such as the one the Norwegians got, etc., and there's a key point mentioned there: Scotland needs immigrants. The Conservatives want to cut immigration. It won't work that way.
Cheetah
Deity
Or could it possibly be that you, Boris and Nigel are greatly mistaken?
Mega Tsunami
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I never said it was from the Telegraph.
It was actually from the Scottish Herald
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/..._poll_shows_further_backing_for_independence/
HAND
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The irony of winning independence from the UK and then giving it away again to the EU is clearly lost on Nicola Sturgeon.
Lillefix
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Perhaps she considers members of the EU to be independent countries. I sure do.
Gen.Mannerheim
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Scotland needs jobs and investment more than immigration right now.
Scotland already has a bad problem of a large proportion of her population leaving in as young adults to work in England or abroad, then returning home to Scotland to retire. This dramatically jacks up the social services bill that Scotland has to cover without those who are benefiting paying into the system from their earlier corresponding years of working.
Adding more immigrants won't solve this problem. Scotland/UK needs to figure out how to boot the industry up there. The SNP pegged a lot of their hopes on the North Sea oil, however that's turned out to be a dead end with job growth and wealth creation drying up at an alarming rate.
HAND
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Maybe for the moment, but considering the commitment to ever closer union in the eu, many nationalists including Scottish will have problems in future.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
That's a budget based on a grant, though, not an independent tax system, and currently a large portion of Scotland's tax, and more broadly of taxable income originating in Scotland, is whisked away to fund foreign wars, nuclear submarines and offshore tax havens before a penny of it finds its way back north of the wall. (Or north of the Humber, for that matter.) An independent Scotland would certainly face challenges, but the Union is hardly a model of fiscal good sense.
Hygro
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Good fiscal sense is hardly a model of good fiscal sense.
I doubt a new UK would change either its name, or even flag (though the flag is indeed outdated at such a scenario ^^ ).
I suppose that NI might leave too if it comes to that. But Wales won't go anywhere. Nor will the taken territories of the SW.
JohannaK
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Someone asked in the previous page: Can confirm most Catalan nationalists want to stay in the EU and look forward to further integration.
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