Is Noam Chomsky a "dweeb"?

[Leoreth]

His behavior will soon be rationalized as "trolling". Sit back and watch it happen.

 

[Oruc]

A reverse Turing Test would be a person who attempts to appear to be a computer. The point being, his responses are increasingly erratic and nonsensical; if he were a computer, then his responses would be more predictable. Problem is, a normal crazy human will give predictably wrong answers also, that follow their ideological beliefs (I don't agree with Luiz or MobBoss often, but I can guess what their answes will be to a specific situation). Both give reasonably predictable answers. But Mouthwash's responses are both erratic and unpredictable, meaning that he is failing to reproduce the computer-like responses that a consistent person might be expected to give, or otherwise has bats in his belfry.

Was it this specially you found confusing?

"I'm not the one who began this conversation by telling you about how you "hang from the tit of Chomsky." "

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Was it this specially you found confusing?

"I'm not the one who began this conversation by telling you about how you "hang from the tit of Chomsky." "

There are so many. That is the most recent. It's not a riposte to anything I said in that post at all. And it doesn't fit the pattern of my argument. He's attacking me as if I'm the one holding Chomsky's world-view up against all others and saying they're wrong because they don't conform to his, but it wasn't me that was doing that, it was him, with Brzezinski and whoever else he named, to Chomsky's world-view. I wasn't even enthusiastically defending Chomsky as being right, so much as I was defending him from a round of rather stupid accusations, the same as I would defend Obama from statements about him only being elected because he's Black, or that he was from Kenya and secretly a communist; but that doesn't mean I like Obama or would defend him against all things, or even many things. And I specifically said so.

 

[Oruc]

There are so many. That is the most recent. It's not a riposte to anything I said in that post at all. And it doesn't fit the pattern of my argument. He's attacking me as if I'm the one holding Chomsky's world-view up against all others and saying they're wrong because they don't conform to his, but it wasn't me that was doing that, it was him, with Brzezinski and whoever else he named, to Chomsky's world-view. I wasn't even enthusiastically defending Chomsky as being right, so much as I was defending him from a round of rather stupid accusations, the same as I would defend Obama from statements about him only being elected because he's Black, or that he was from Kenya and secretly a communist; but that doesn't mean I like Obama or would defend him against all things, or even many things. And I specifically said so.

Ahh I understand the confusion, Mouthwash was referring to this earlier post by yourself

I'm not surprised one bit that someone hanging from the tit of Brzezinski takes an intense disliking to Chomsky.

he seemed incredulous you would implying he had no manners when earlier you accused him of hanging from someones tit.
I am of the opinion he believed with this post you set the tone of dicussion and decided to match it himself? that's how I understood his post, that he was accusing you of being the one with no manners because of the earlier post.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Ahh I understand the confusion, Mouthwash was referring to this earlier post by yourself



he seemed incredulous you would implying he had no manners when earlier you accused him of hanging from someones tit.
I am of the opinion he believed with this post you set the tone of dicussion and decided to match it himself? that's how I understood his post, that he was accusing you of being the one with no manners because of the earlier post.

Hey I went to public school, my parents couldn't afford to privately brainwash me. I'm not bound by the manners of high society. Not that I think that's a particularly rude comment to begin with, though, but then I wasn't raised to be a gentleman.

 

[Oruc]

Hey I went to public school, my parents couldn't afford to privately brainwash me. I'm not bound by the manners of high society. Not that I think that's a particularly rude comment to begin with, though, but then I wasn't raised to be a gentleman.

Then why take issue with his manners to begin with?
Edit: Brainwash? I doubt it was very different to state school.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Then why take issue with his manners to being with?

Because he touts his home-schooling as if it made him superior to me. I simply challenged him to act the part.

 

[Dachs]

Can we make this the Caine Show instead of the Mouthwash Show?

 

[Cryopyre]

The moment I hear people complain about someone being anti-American I know I'm listening to an idiot. True story.

 

[Oruc]

Because he touts his home-schooling as if it made him superior to me. I simply challenged him to act the part.

I honestly can't find an instance of this I did a quick search through the thread for "school" and these are the posts mentioning homeschooling (excluding forma's one)

Yeah, not really. I don't expect a teenage homeschooler to have a great idea of just how useful, popular that he is.

A teenage homeschooler who wants to know more about how the world works, rather than trying to find out what is wrong with it and getting angry at people who don't agree with me. Interesting when you understand that our minds are literally hardwired to send "error messages" when we hear opinions or facts that we disagree with.

tl;dr: Chomsky is popular and widely read by educated people while I'm just a little homeschooler and don't know anything (although I apparently do more than you)!

Which one are you referring too?

I was surprised he freely offered up the knowledge of his homeschooling in a different thread as that will only ever be used an excuse to dismiss and mock someones opinion, perhaps that's a symptom of homeschooling, naivety.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I'm not interested in dissecting this further, as it is irrelevant and I've made my point.

 

[Borachio]

I'm quite interested in Chomsky. But this thread disappointed me, I must say. I just got so confused with who said what when why and where.

 

[Oruc]

I'm not interested in dissecting this further, as it is irrelevant and I've made my point.

If it makes you feel better just pretend I'm traitorfish being pedantic?
Honestly I was just curious about your confusion, then curious where Mouthwash "touts his home-schooling as if it made him superior to me." I can't seem to find it in this thread Cheezy (theres only 8 pages not that hard to search for it)? Was it in another thread? Did it ever take place? Do you just have an inferiority complex? did you even have a point?

 

[Formaldehyde]

...I wasn't even enthusiastically defending Chomsky as being right, so much as I was defending him from a round of rather stupid accusations, the same as I would defend Obama from statements about him only being elected because he's Black, or that he was from Kenya and secretly a communist; but that doesn't mean I like Obama or would defend him against all things, or even many things....

That is what I have been trying to do in this thread as well.

I disagree with many of Noam Chomsky's political positions myself. But I find the level of enmity directed at him just as reprehensible as I do those towards Obama. Both live under the threat of death from many individuals in the US for merely expressing their opinions.

 

[MobBoss]

Both live under the threat of death from many individuals in the US for merely expressing their opinions.

Anyone relatively famous that is in anyway controversial that expresses an opinion lives in a threat of death from the various loonys out there. So you claiming this as some kind of point isnt really a good one.

It's like a great big 'so what'?

I mean if I took your sentence, and put GWB in there instead of Obama or Chomsky, it'd be just as true and just as inconsequential.

 

[Formaldehyde]

So death threats from the authoritarian far-right for merely disagreeing with their "fringie" opinions is now a matter of "so what"?

Is there anything you won't try to rationalize and defend on the absurd basis that others supposedly do it too?

 

[MobBoss]

So death threats from the authoritarian far-right for merely disagreeing with their "fringie" opinions is now a matter of "so what"?

You dont think conservatives get death threats as well?

Or that far left fringies dont issue death threats?

I see.

Is there anything you won't try to rationalize and defend by trying to claim that others do it too?

I'm not defending death threats per se; I'm saying your argument is crap. Learn to comprehend simple sentences.

 

[Mouthwash]

There are so many. That is the most recent. It's not a riposte to anything I said in that post at all. And it doesn't fit the pattern of my argument. He's attacking me as if I'm the one holding Chomsky's world-view up against all others and saying they're wrong because they don't conform to his, but it wasn't me that was doing that, it was him, with Brzezinski and whoever else he named, to Chomsky's world-view. I wasn't even enthusiastically defending Chomsky as being right, so much as I was defending him from a round of rather stupid accusations, the same as I would defend Obama from statements about him only being elected because he's Black, or that he was from Kenya and secretly a communist; but that doesn't mean I like Obama or would defend him against all things, or even many things. And I specifically said so.

You simply called me a Brzezinski fanboy and said that that was why I disliked Chomsky. At that point I hadn't done anything else other than to criticize him (your name wasn't brought up), but you apparently felt honor-bound to defend him.

And when the hell did I "tout" my homeschooling as if it makes me superior to you? You used your education to condescend me. Have you even been reading my replies?

His behavior will soon be rationalized as "trolling". Sit back and watch it happen.

More mockery, how unrefreshing. Here's a novel idea, perhaps you might actually want to listen for a change; listen and learn. Or not, the choice is of course yours.

 

[Ajidica]

Supporting the mujahedeen resulted in one of the greatest defeats of the Soviet Union and stopped any southward expanse towards the Persian Gulf. Seems like he did his job.

He could have been a bit better about not getting the ISI and the Saudis involved. That way it would have been more likely Massoud and the other guy (think it is Najibullah, but too lazy to google it.) in a stable position of power and violent nutters like Hekmatyar and Mullah Omar would have been sidelined.
Plus, the conflict wouldn't have been internationalized. From what I have read the internationalization of the Afghanistan War really helped to spread the ideas of violent Political Islam which is something we can all agree on isn't a Good Thing.
If you consider "turning a developing nation into a sordid patch of dirt ruled over by warlords and religious nutters" to be doing a good job, I would hate to see what your definition of 'bad job' is.

More mockery, how unrefreshing. Here's a novel idea, perhaps you might actually want to listen for a change; listen and learn. Or not, the choice is of course yours.

Considering you have made threads solely about how your posts are designed solely to troll [X-group(s)], it is a valid question/comment.

 

[Formaldehyde]

You dont think conservatives get death threats as well?

What do you think this statement means, which you even quoted?

Is there anything you won't try to rationalize and defend on the absurd basis that others supposedly do it too?

Learn to comprehend simple sentences.

"Self-goal", "score".

There is simply no way that someone like Noam Chomsky should ever get a death threat in any country which claims to be modern and civilized, regardless of whether he is a leftist or a rightist, a libertarian or an authoritarian. To try to rationalize it on any basis is "pathetic".