IS

Didn't the Taliban blow up some ancient Buddhist statue? ISIS can't be outdone in their quest to be the most awful people on the planet.

Yeah, they blew up a few of them in Afghanistan.

I think at this point ISIS has outdone them in almost every way. Hell, even the Taliban at least managed to take opium production in Afghanistan to ~0.

Admittedly they went about it in typically brutal fashion.
 
A message allegedly from the head of Nigeria’s Boko Haram terror group Saturday pledged his group’s allegiance to Islamic State.

The pledge to IS came in an Arabic audio message with English subtitles alleged to have come from Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau and posted Saturday on Twitter, according to the SITE Intelligence monitoring service.

"We announce our allegiance to the Caliph of the Muslims ... and will hear and obey in times of difficulty and prosperity, in hardship and ease, and to endure being discriminated against, and not to dispute about rule with those in power, except in case of evident infidelity regarding that which there is a proof from Allah," said the message. IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has declared himself the caliph.

The message was posted on Twitter, hours after Boko Haram was blamed for four suicide bomb attacks in northeastern Nigeria that killed at least 54 people and wounded more than 140 people.
 
(Also, i don't get the IS. Can somebody here please explain why they use knives instead of actual firearms for executions?)


Why don't you guys read original Muslim texts? It is all there:

Then I cut off his head and brought it to the apostle saying, “This is the head of the enemy of Allah, Abu Jahl.”… I threw his head before the apostle and he gave thanks to Allah. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 451).
 
Why don't we outflank these IS guys and all convert to Sunni Islam?

Spoiler :
Actually, no. That's a really bad idea.
 
A message allegedly from the head of Nigeria’s Boko Haram terror group Saturday pledged his group’s allegiance to Islamic State.

The pledge to IS came in an Arabic audio message with English subtitles alleged to have come from Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau and posted Saturday on Twitter, according to the SITE Intelligence monitoring service.

"We announce our allegiance to the Caliph of the Muslims ... and will hear and obey in times of difficulty and prosperity, in hardship and ease, and to endure being discriminated against, and not to dispute about rule with those in power, except in case of evident infidelity regarding that which there is a proof from Allah," said the message. IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has declared himself the caliph.

The message was posted on Twitter, hours after Boko Haram was blamed for four suicide bomb attacks in northeastern Nigeria that killed at least 54 people and wounded more than 140 people.
Just how centralized, if at all, is the Islamic State? Does the so-called Caliph actually have any power, or is he just a figurehead to whom local commanders pledge loyalty?
 
These groups pledges of allegiance to ISIS are simple publicity ploys, I highly doubt the day to day operations of boko haram or the terrorist groups in Libya are changing much, but now they have more global legitimacy as opposed to regional legitimacy because they are a franchise of the big bad terrorist group on the block. its the same way groups used to trip over themselves to affiliate with Al Qaeda even if they did not really get rolled into their administrative umbrella.
 
I can't imagine he's got much power in Nigeria.

These groups pledges of allegiance to ISIS are simple publicity ploys, I highly doubt the day to day operations of boko haram or the terrorist groups in Libya are changing much, but now they have more global legitimacy as opposed to regional legitimacy because they are a franchise of the big bad terrorist group on the block. its the same way groups used to trip over themselves to affiliate with Al Qaeda even if they did not really get rolled into their administrative umbrella.

Precisely my thought, but I'm also curious as to the degree of centralization or decentralization in ISIS' current turf.
 
boko Haram is under pressure , with the challenge it offers to the local goverments which has climbed higher of the American press byte on the "OMG! Muslims are killing Christians!" thing . So they are recognising the authority of ISIL , hence kissing the feet of the Gulf Arabs who fund ISIL . So that they can spend a buck here and two over there so that Washington will make the Africans stop . As you know , the people of Chad were the guys who actually invented the Toyota way of war , where you don your AK-47 and drive off to somewhere to hit and run and stuff .
 
Precisely my thought, but I'm also curious as to the degree of centralization or decentralization in ISIS' current turf.

From what I can gather from the news, ISIS is pretty centralized in the areas of the middle east that they have overrun. Everywhere I don't think there is much, if any, centralization going on between the 'core' of ISIS in the middle east and the other terror groups. They just seem to be jumping on the rhetorical bandwagon by pledging to ISIS without any kind of real integration or even coordination.
 
In case someone wonders how the Shia dominated Tikrit offensive goes (from yesterday's dailytimes.com.pk):

On the move, the attacking force is a confusing mass of armoured vehicles, pickup trucks and motorbikes. The convoy, carrying hundreds of fighters, also includes jeep-laden artillery, ambulances, and armoured police vehicles. The Badr Organisation militiamen and the regular army’s troops drive identical tanks, with only an army logo differentiating regular military from militia. Above some of the army’s armoured vehicles, the banner of Shi’ite Islam’s revered Imam Hussein flutters alongside the national Iraqi flag.

The forces start their day with dawn prayers. Then, if there are Islamic State fighters on the road ahead, artillery opens up to drive them back, targeting in particular suspected suicide car bombers. Armoured vehicles advance to clear snipers, trying to avoid bombs planted by retreating militants. The militiamen and soldiers say they have information about the territory ahead from military intelligence and sources in Islamic State territory. Sometimes that takes them on detours to bypass suspected booby-traps on their way. Even so, the first two days of operation brought losses. Three blackened, bombed-out vehicles belonging to the army and militia forces could be seen on the road. On Monday, crossing the hilly Hamrin region before descending into the flat Tigris plain, the fighters advanced only 8 km (5 miles). The next day, as Islamic State fighters evaporated, their progress was closer to 50 km. As they advanced, they left police units and militia fighters to hold territory behind the frontline.

By mid-afternoon on both days, they set up base for the night. A bullet-pocked excavator, with metal armour-plating to protect the driver, dug a defensive wall for their base. Driving alongside them in a white pick-up truck with loudspeakers and a Shi’ite banner on its roof, men from the Ideological Guidance unit dispense battlefield advice and blast out military songs to raise the fighters’ spirits. “Mosul is calling you,” one of the songs - a favourite among the Badr Organisation - rings out, referring to the northern city which is the ultimate goal in Baghdad’s military campaign to eliminate Islamic State. The eastern force, which is targeting the town of al-Alam north of Tikrit, is one of three main axes of the campaign, the other two advancing along the Tigris river from north and south. The militia fighters have already contacted the mainly Sunni al-Alam residents to say they will be well-treated if they put up white flags. But the campaign is clearly presented to the Shi’ite fighters as a defence of their sect, from Sunni radicals who consider Shi’ites heretics. “Without you, the women of Karbala and Najaf will be enslaved,” Rubaei told the fighters assembled in Udhaim before the fight, referring to holy cities that house the two most important Shi’ite shrines. “Today, thanks to you, we are all victorious. Today we are in their hotbeds.”
 
"We announce our allegiance to the Caliph of the Muslims ... and will hear and obey in times of difficulty and prosperity, in hardship and ease, and to endure being discriminated against, and not to dispute about rule with those in power, except in case of evident infidelity regarding that which there is a proof from Allah,"
Ah jeez kiss the bride already :rolleyes:

That is a Shi'ite idea.

Hey that rhymes!
 
in the end all these guys are just a pyramid scheme. The members that get screwed are those who are fighting in the front lines and strapping bombs to their chests. Death of many to advance a select few.
 
in the end all these guys are just a pyramid scheme. The members that get screwed are those who are fighting in the front lines and strapping bombs to their chests. Death of many to advance a select few.

I dunno--they seem pretty genuinely devoted to their cause, insane though it is.
 
wait until you meet an Advocare sales rep.....
 
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/isis-defector-dsscribes-how-jihadi-john-ran-executions-2015-3
A defector from the Islamic State terror group talked to Sky News about how militants prepared captives for executions, and the militant known as “Jihadi John” gave orders.

“Turkish man say ‘put this camera there, change place there’ but John [was] the big boss,” an ISIS defector in Turkey said of Mohammed Emwazi, the 26-year-old Londoner featured in ISIS videos. “All time, all time say to all ‘fastly, fastly, fastly, we should finish’. So respect him. Only he talks orders — others do.”

The terrorist group reportedly staged mock executions to prepare hostages for being on camera, telling them in the rehearsals that they wouldn’t be harmed.

Sky reports: “The execution rehearsals took place so that when the moment of death finally came, the hostages were not expecting to be killed and were relaxed to appeal for their release on camera.”

The hostage-beheading videos have become an important part of ISIS propaganda. The videos get much media attention and are accessible to the world through YouTube and other video hosting sites.

Sky’s source, who goes by the pseudonym “Saleh,” says he was a translator for ISIS. He reportedly fled to Turkey to escape ISIS.

Saleh said that “John,” recently identified as Emwazi, is reportedly the terror group’s chief killer of foreign hostages.

The man said his job was to help convince the hostages they were safe.

“[Emwazi] would say to me ‘say to them, no problem, only video, we don’t kill you, we want from your government [to] stop attacking Syria. We don’t have any problem with you; you are only our visitors,’” Saleh told Sky, adding that he knew the whole time the hostages would eventually be killed.

The hostages were also reportedly encouraged to become Muslim and given Arabic names to help them feel more relaxed among the militants.

Saleh’s statements are in line with what a former CIA counterterrorism analyst wrote for The Washington Post in September. Aki Peritz explained that the hostages might appear so calm in the ISIS videos because they don’t know they’re about to be murdered. And statements from former ISIS hostages have corroborated the mock execution story.

Emwazi is believed to be responsible for multiple executions of Western hostages. Saleh confirmed his identity to Sky. Emwazi reportedly left Europe for Syria in 2012.
 
JJ will have egg on his face, when he dies and attempts to go into heaven and his access is denied.
 
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