ITNES I - An Epoch of Change

[ThomAnder]

@Dis: maybe so. They still didn't end their alliance with me though. What I'm even more surprised of is how a strong and better-trained army in good defence positions can get so utterly destroyed! But I suppose the spotlight would answer that.

Well, i didn't get as far as i wanted to, but i guess that's ok. And i'm pretty sure our army is about equally strong and well trained

 

[Finmaster]

Good, hopefully Cernorussia will also accept. As for army size and quality, yes I notice now that my army quality has decreased (even though I remember growing it, yet another strange event for me.. ). I just ment that my entire army prepared to defend against you (100 thousands) was completely and totally destroyed, but like said will be interresting to see the spotlight on how that happened.

 

[Symphony D.]

@Symphony, I assume your economy will increase later when things get integrated and taxed

OOC: Probably, but it shouldn't matter. It's India. The removal of Pirates and holding Mumbai alone (which is too far south to actually be Mumbai, but we'll ignore that), ignoring all the rest of the subcontinent and its massive production of assorted things, should at least have returned trade to 6, if not higher. If holding India, let alone developing it, wasn't profitable, the OTL colonial powers wouldn't have bothered nearly so much as they did.

Then again it tends to be in a dasNES that for a long time all you'll ever get from a nation you've conquered is angry people. Which is why removal of the EC system wasn't so great overall, having seen it in practice. The Military upgrades thing isn't that hot either, noticing how most people are running around with Juggernaut forces...

 

[Luckymoose]

OOC: Probably, but it shouldn't matter. It's India. The removal of Pirates and holding Mumbai alone (which is too far south to actually be Mumbai, but we'll ignore that), ignoring all the rest of the subcontinent and its massive production of assorted things, should at least have returned trade to 6, if not higher. If holding India, let alone developing it, wasn't profitable, the OTL colonial powers wouldn't have bothered nearly so much as they did.

Then again it tends to be in a dasNES that for a long time all you'll ever get from a nation you've conquered is angry people. Which is why removal of the EC system wasn't so great overall, having seen it in practice. The Military upgrades thing isn't that hot either, noticing how most people are running around with Juggernaut forces...

But Asia pwns the rest of the world. Let them pray we do not team up as a whole.

 

[Thlayli]

From: The Gaelic Empire
To: Dacoillyrian Empire, Cimberland, Luca

It would seem that the free, enlightened peoples of the Bimarine Basin are now under attack from all sides. Assaults have come from east and west alike, and our very existence seems threatened. It has been only our hesitation to cooperate that weakens our alliances. Therefore, we must act now in order to maintain a free state of life.

Therefore, we propose that the Mediterranean Trading League be expanded into a full alliance, both defensive and offensive, between our four nations. We propose that it be called the Alliance of Free Mediterranean Peoples. This alliance calls for the creation of a joint naval command among member nation fleets in wartime, and military cooperation on all fronts deemed necessary. For the time being, we propose that this alliance be linked with the Pact of Invictus, which includes Iceni and Cymru as auxiliary members.

We must forge such an alliance now, while there is still time.

 

[tossi]

OOC: And in the end everything turns out differently then expected... Can't wait for the update.

I was seriously frightened that you failed to send orders, Thom .

 

[andis-1]

Thayli, Finny, MSN, now.

 

[erez87]

to Nordike and Dawn kingdoms:
Our victories number more than our enemy's ones. We now have the upper hand and the resources to use it. Let us finish this war quickly for all our people grow weary of wars. Now that Hibernia is free it is time to bring the war to their lands. Caledonia have already fallen to the might of Nordike, and soon Iceni and Cymru will as well. Our alliance is strong, and victory shall soon be ours.
We congerelate Nordike on their magnificent war upon Caledonia.
We thank the Dawn Kingdoms for their aid in retrieving Hibernia from the harsh rule of those who call themselves the light. If we are darkness than it seems darkness is the side of good, side of peace and the side that will have it's victory soon enough...

 

[ThomAnder]

Good, hopefully Cernorussia will also accept. As for army size and quality, yes I notice now that my army quality has decreased (even though I remember growing it, yet another strange event for me.. ). I just ment that my entire army prepared to defend against you (100 thousands) was completely and totally destroyed, but like said will be interresting to see the spotlight on how that happened.

ummm when i said that's ok i wasn't referring to your peace treaty proposal.. sorry to get your hopes up

@ das: What's the army quality of levy thousands? especially one the size of Luca

 

[conehead234]

But Asia pwns the rest of the world. Let them pray we do not team up as a whole.

Nice update, but i asked for 20 of my ships to be built on the carb sea coast, they arn't on the map.

to: Asia
from: Nihon
Wanna team up as a whole?

 

[Oruc]

to Nordike and Dawn kingdoms:
Our victories number more than our enemy's ones. We now have the upper hand and the resources to use it. Let us finish this war quickly for all our people grow weary of wars. Now that Hibernia is free it is time to bring the war to their lands. Caledonia have already fallen to the might of Nordike, and soon Iceni and Cymru will as well. Our alliance is strong, and victory shall soon be ours.
We congerelate Nordike on their magnificent war upon Caledonia.
We thank the Dawn Kingdoms for their aid in retrieving Hibernia from the harsh rule of those who call themselves the light. If we are darkness than it seems darkness is the side of good, side of peace and the side that will have it's victory soon enough...

To Nortugal
From Holy Tarunist Empire of Greater Nordrike

Good, our combined might will see Alba defeated within five years. The allaince between Nortugal and Nordrike should be made official.

to Nadruvia
From Nordrike

Your fleet is too large, it currently stands at 45 ships, it should be 15 as per the treaty put forward by Nortugal and signed by all 4 parties.

 

[shortguy]

Horse archers? Please. You can't reinvent your military every five years. Screw sticking to national character, I guess.

To Caledonia
From Pact of Invictus

I hate to say "I told you so," but I did, in fact, tell you so. Not like it matters anymore.

 

[Oruc]

Horse archers? Please. You can't reinvent your military every five years. Screw sticking to national character, I guess.

To Caledonia
From Pact of Invictus

I hate to say "I told you so," but I did, in fact, tell you so. Not like it matters anymore.

OOC: I didn't reinvent my military, I merely recruited light Horsemen armed with bows and javelins, the Heavy Cavalry were still present in the army. My army was still primarily Infantry based.
I did feel somewhat bad that your country was defeated, wasn't very long since your other nation was defeated.

 

[shortguy]

Well, I think national characteristics would dictate that that horse archers would be a very minor/essentially nonexistent part of your military. That just isn't part of the Norseman's arsenal. I understand that they can do it technologically (you have bows and horses, of course), but it would be hard to put a good force together in a short time, and it's just not in keeping with their views on combat. I mean, my nobility are still fighting on foot, because that's the manner of warfare that Caledonians are accustomed to and esteem most highly (not to mention that, with rather rugged terrain all around, it's both quite useful and easy to practice in our homelands).

 

[Symphony D.]

OOC: one word: mercenaries.

 

[Oruc]

Well, I think national characteristics would dictate that that horse archers would be a very minor/essentially nonexistent part of your military. That just isn't part of the Norseman's arsenal. I understand that they can do it technologically (you have bows and horses, of course), but it would be hard to put a good force together in a short time, and it's just not in keeping with their views on combat. I mean, my nobility are still fighting on foot, because that's the manner of warfare that Caledonians are accustomed to and esteem most highly.

I used to think the same way, during the BT im sure I emphasised that my military should be heavy infantry based (greece and all that).
But doing that is not a good idea in nesing, thats why I have been an also-ran since the rules and things started changing, I just finally decided to do something about it.
Edit: also the Horse part was only the opening move in the battle from what I read.

 

[shortguy]

And it doesn't matter that much, I would have been fine if my silly allies didn't hang me out to dry (Azale excepted). You had to know the the Hibernian expedition wasn't going to succeed, and that our naval supremacy wouldn't last long.

 

[Azale]

I agree with the short one, we are in a quite a bind now

 

[Azale]

Well, I had a good (2 turns) run as Iceni, but after negotiations with Nodrike proved fruitless...I'm onto my err, 5th nation? (Choson, Aztlan, India, Iceni...)

Cernorusian Empire
Capital: Groznygrad
Ruler: Velikiy Knyaz Khoriv I
Government (Efficiency): Militaristic Feudal Monarchy (Improving (1/3))
Culture: East Slavic, with considerable Dacian and Onoghurian influences, and lighter Wenedian, Tarunian and Nordrikian ones; vibrant, developing, regionalistic; minor Tarunist and substantial Nevasanghist religious minorities.
Tech. Level: Early Medieval Age
Army (Quality): 76 thousands (Great), 25 Ljuta Druzhina thousands, 20 levy thousands
Navy (Quality): None yet
Economy (Points): Growing (3)
Trade: 2
Size (Points Required): Above Medium (3)
Infrastructure: Great
Education: Well Educated
Prestige: Acceptable
Confidence: Respecting
Projects: Sveucilisna Baza (+3 Education) (Done!)
Nation Background: Though actually quite good traders, the Cernorusians are famous for a different trait of their culture - for their unique level of militarism and the importance of war for their culture, which stands out even in the war-filled world of 5th century Europe. Hardened by warfare with pretty much all their neighbours, especially the Huns, the state of Slavania (later Cernorus) first came to be in the 2nd century AD, under heavy Dacoillyrian influence. Participating in the eastern campaigns, the Slavanians had expanded greatly. Over time, as the Dacoillyrians turned more towards the Mediterranean, whilst the Slavanians turned to East European issues, the two allies had naturally changed paths. Late 4th/early 5th century ruler Vladimir I, who had transformed Slavania into Cernorus, had attempted to unite all the Slavs by attacking Wenedia; but he was defeated and replaced by one of his nobles, Khoriv I. Under Khoriv, Cernorus had allied with Onoghurian Bulgharia and begun eyeing the "ancestral Slavic" lands also known as far eastern Dacoillyria...

Diplomacy to DacoIllyria to be done very soon as soon as I review it...

 

[Azale]

From: Emperor Velikiy Knyaz Khoriv I of Cernorusia
To: Daco-Illyria

We agree to your proposal, and are glad our lands could be rightfully united with....minimal bloodshed.