This girl has cerebral palsy? That's a really serious condition and he could have hurt her more than if she wasn't disabled. Everyone I've known with cerebral palsy couldn't even walk but that girl who was on the Facts of Life could walk. Maybe that's ataxic cerebral palsy.
Judge William Adams Caught Beating Daughter on Video
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useless
Social Justice Rogue
It is possible that i may have accidently misinterpreted people's stances, If that was the impression people took, then i apologise, it wasn't intentional.
I wasn't trying to be hostile, i just find all kinds of child abuse to be abhorrent.
What is the appropriate punishment for the Judge here? Would anyone be opposed to corporal punishment as part of it?
dIZZyBlIZZy
Batteries not included
Very good questions, but I can only answer the second, and then only with another question. If corporal punishment is used to punish someone for using corporal punishment to punish someone, is that having your cake and eating it?
katipunero
Prince
Ordinary Physical Punishment: Is It Harmful?
Comment on Gershoff (2002)
Baumrind et al., p. 585
"Parents who escalate to abuse from disciplinary use of CP are
likely to share a distinctive set of attributes (Baumrind, 1995;
Vasta, 1982). Abusive parents are more likely to be hyperreactive
to negative stimuli and to have an extreme need to control their
children. Their punishment is less contingent on the child’s be-
havior than on their own inner state. Rather than having flexible
recourse to a wide range of disciplinary tactics, such as time-out,
induction, persuasion, and denial of privileges, abusive parents
rely monolithically on their greater physical power to intimidate
their child into compliance. Their anger is explosive, and they hit
impulsively in response to their own frustration rather than to
correct the child. As Gershoff (2002) stated, it is important for
future research to determine for whom, in what contexts, and when
purposeful “corporal punishment is transformed into abuse” (p.
553). As her term implies, a qualitative change must occur for
ordinary physical punishment to be “transformed” into physical
abuse. Thus, in a study of affluent, well-educated families, those
parents whose recourse to physical punishment was excessively
severe and frequent also engaged in significantly more negative
interactions of other kinds including verbal abuse, being signifi-
cantly less warm, supportive and consistent, and themselves ex-
hibiting more internalizing and externalizing problem behavior
(Baumrind, 2001).
Just as addictive personalities should not drink alcohol or use
drugs, some parents—those with a low tolerance for frustration, a
history of violence, an inordinate need to control others, and those
who are impulsive, narcissistic, and immature—should not spank."
here.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Hitting a child as punishment has worked fine in my family for generations and has proven to only be required a few times over the course of a childhood for an understanding of proper behavior to sink in.
I've just never understood the "too old for corporal punishment" line - if corporal punishment is considered over-the-line for an older child or an adult, what makes it acceptable to inflict on a young child?
aelf
Ashen One
Corporal punishment that is done with love cannot be wrong, except maybe if it results in permanent injury. You'd be surprised how true this is to many people.
woody60707
Deity
I'm just going to copy/post what I said in another forum. As general principle, i'm against this type of internet justice.
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Go internet hate machine!
This is why it should be illegal to post personal information in the internet. No one has a clue if this is even real, let alone the back story in this. Hell, people on the internet don't even seem to care if they have the right guy in this video. As long as they share the same name, that close enough, right? There is some poor guy in Georgia getting harassed, and assaulted because his name is also Judge William Adams.
If this was illegal, the cops will deal with, if this wasn't illegal, then this is just as wrong as posting the names of Doctors that do abortions, or people that donated money to ban homosexual marriage (ect ect) with the intent of harm being done to them.
No matter how much you may hate someone, it never gives you the right to harm. And hell, it's the internet people, why would you ever believe anything on it with out a credible source first?
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Go internet hate machine!
This is why it should be illegal to post personal information in the internet. No one has a clue if this is even real, let alone the back story in this. Hell, people on the internet don't even seem to care if they have the right guy in this video. As long as they share the same name, that close enough, right? There is some poor guy in Georgia getting harassed, and assaulted because his name is also Judge William Adams.
If this was illegal, the cops will deal with, if this wasn't illegal, then this is just as wrong as posting the names of Doctors that do abortions, or people that donated money to ban homosexual marriage (ect ect) with the intent of harm being done to them.
No matter how much you may hate someone, it never gives you the right to harm. And hell, it's the internet people, why would you ever believe anything on it with out a credible source first?
NickyJ
Retired Narrator
I'll stop you there. That is a HUGE leap made right there. You're talking about how abusive parents handle things, I'm talking about the majority of parents in general.
Parents who which to inflict corporal punishment of their kids should have to obtain a licence after receiving proper training from someone skilled in the art such as IglooDude.
Skwink
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If you read the thread, nobody said this is all right.
katipunero
Prince
huh??
if you've bothered to read the things posted in the link, you'd find out that even non-abusive parents, who have at least inflicted CP more than once or regularly, tend to act based on their "inner state", and out of frustration whenever the parents feel that the CP failed to mitigate the undesired behavior or the CP failed to exact immediate compliance.
further, majority of the parents, who use CP regularly, have more than once acted out of impulse on the spur of the moment. the severity of the punishment seems to be the function of how much the parents feel obfuscated by the child's mistakes rather than the severity of the punishment being made to fit the misdeed. the teaching effect, therefore, is gone. parents are simply venting anger and frustration, and are NOT moved by a genuine desire to engage the child to learn a specific lesson in a safe and healthy way.
Thoughtful Thug
Deity
And corporeal punishment is a material fallacy. Argumentum ad baculum
Meh, parents and their "applied logic."
Meh, parents and their "applied logic."
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I think anytime an object is used, or if the target isn't the posterior, that it is physical abuse. There is a world of difference between lightly spanking a small child on the buttocks with your hand and taking a belt to a teenager. But since so many people can't seem to discern the difference, I think the only safe thing to do is to ban all forms of physical punishment.
That is a good point. He is only an alleged perpetrator of a heinous act until the police can verify that the video did occur in her bedroom, as many people who know the family have already claimed. Not to mention those same people have stated that is indeed his voice and that of his wife. But it could be just a huge coincidence, or the daughter could have cleverly created the video by secretly recording his various rants and rages and edited it together to make him look like that. Until he is actually convicted in a court of law by a jury of his peers, he may very well be the innocent victim of an internet witch hunt.
I had this in my head the moment I started posting in this thread. I knew that we were only seeing one point of view, but I decided to discuss the topic anyway because this is but one example of corporal punishment being taken to extremes by parents.
I don't think that's woody's point. Rather, how do you actually know that the guy in the video is William Adams? Whoever is in the video is clearly doing something wrong, but the only way I know it's Judge Adams is because the OP article said so. I've never met the guy personally. That's woody's point.
I personally think it's fairly safe to make that assumption, but your argument appears to be missing the point of woody's.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
As I pointed out, there have been numerous people who have claimed that was indeed her bedroom and the voices of the 3 family members. Plus the judge closely resembles the male in the video. There is also the fact that the mother has publicly stated that she was dismayed by her participation in the incident and subsequently divorced the judge for physical cruelty.
Then there are the acts of the judge. Instead of denying any of this, he disconnected his phone.
But who knows? It could just be another internet witch hunt.
And as far as posting such information on the internet is concerned, I think it is the right of his daughter to post whatever she wishes as long as it is not libelous.
Then there are the acts of the judge. Instead of denying any of this, he disconnected his phone.
But who knows? It could just be another internet witch hunt.
And as far as posting such information on the internet is concerned, I think it is the right of his daughter to post whatever she wishes as long as it is not libelous.
I agree with what you just posted, but again, that's not the point. It's all hearsay. I certainly jumped to a conclusion without examining the evidence, as I'm sure many people did. If you didn't, then that's great. But it doesn't mean everyone did. The difference is between 'is this an internet witch hunt?' and 'is the principle of jumping to conclusions because some person (who is for all intents and purposes anonymous) said so conducive to witch hunts?'
