Tomoyo
Fate
I thought F1 did that. If you want to account for scientists, I have no idea.
KA01 - A Simple Deity Space Race
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Mistfit said:
Welcome back Mistfit.
CivAssist probably provides it, but it's giving me a runtime error if I try to use it on our 940 AD save. I was hoping to use it for the tech costs as you did. I just looked in F1 ad that shows the gpt being put into research. Then you have to count the scientists by looking in the F1 city list, or I guess CivAssist would do that for you.
If you need some therapy, be my guest. I have a lot of other stuff to do, so I haven't started yet, other than to look at it.
Having taken a look I was in two minds about what to do. We have several deals with the Zulus right now. We are not so gold-rich that we can lightly cancel the deals. They add up to over 70 gpt going on for up to 18 turns, and we are also supplying them with furs for another 7 turns. Are we ready to break deals yet? We are also weak wrt to both them and the Ottomans, so we might need to give the Ottomans something to ally with us against Zulus and avoid them joining the other side, but then we're stuck with a 20 turn alliance. And it might be expensive if we've already shot our rep by breaking the Zulu furs deal.
On the plus side, we have 25 cavalry and with our rails we can probably take two or three Zulu cities in the same turn as a DOW. They have Leonardo's conveniently situated in Delhi, and that would save us over 600 gold on upgrades of our cats and cannons to artillery, and our muskets to infantry. That's it for upgrades, though, unless we decide to build more infantry now for later upgrade to MI.
But I needed to think about it some more before I hit next turn, so if you want to do the thinking and take it, please do
We have a couple of builds I don't understand. A Stock exchange in Aldea that will do nothing for us as we have zero cash revenue to multiply with our sliders at 0.10.0. And I'm not sure about building more cavalry, as they'll be obsolete when we have tanks in 12 turns.
well spotted
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Correct. The F1 screen shows your science numbers which is the bpt you are earning. Use the F1 numbers not the bpt shown in CivAssist. Ainwood is using raw beakers in CivAssist which does not take into account all of the science bonuses. I did a review of the top 3 space victories from a prior GOTM and CivAssist was showing less than 1000 bpt while they were actually earning over 2000 bpt.
EDIT: crossed with Alan
@Alan - which version of CivAssist did you dl. I had to drop back to the more stable 1.07 to stop the errors I was getting. I've also had to load the saves as manual files because CivAssist looks in the default directories and I have more than 1 version on Civ on my computer.
EDIT: crossed with Alan
@Alan - which version of CivAssist did you dl. I had to drop back to the more stable 1.07 to stop the errors I was getting. I've also had to load the saves as manual files because CivAssist looks in the default directories and I have more than 1 version on Civ on my computer.
Mistfit
Deity
I cannot play for +6 hours but I would be happy to then if you will allow it. Or if you have time now to get the turnset in I'll wait. I can always get further on in my gotm.
I have to point it at an active Civ file or folder manually, as I run it on an old PC and tell it to look at a file on my Mac across the LAN. I don't think it would find it unaided. I confess I don't use it a lot ...
[Sounds of ancient Windows 98 disk cranking up as Alan checks the version he tried]
Yes, I was trying 1.0.10, which doesn't want to open any files I try on it
. If I open our 940 AD save in an old 1.0.5 version it seems OK.[EDIT]
Go for itMistfit said:
I'll skip this round and pick it up next time around if there's anything left 
Mistfit
Deity
So what's the vote on the Zulu? Rush them now and ruin our rep or set up to 
them in 18 turns?
I vote to ROP rape them and take them out hard and quick.
them in 18 turns? I vote to ROP rape them and take them out hard and quick.
You could wait 7 turns and then I don't think there'd be a rep hit as we'd only be cancelling deals where they pay us. However, the rep hit is probably not a problem come to think of it as we already trashed it, didn't we? That being the case I think now is as good a time as ever, before Shaka gets Infantry?
Mistfit
Deity
I got it. I'll have it back w/in 24 hrs. RoP Rape or not?
Tomoyo
Fate
I vote for the RoP rape. Losing the ability to sign ROPs will not hurt us unless we want a diplomatic vitcory. (and obviously we don't 
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Mistfit
Deity
So anything goes.... Sounds good to me. I've been reading some very informative info on the uses of RoP rape in the SGOTM. I think I'll try my hand at it here.
I've been reading some very informative info on the uses of RoP rape in the SGOTM. I think I'll try my hand at it here.
Mistfit
Deity
Ok I'm part way into the turns and I have a couple of questions.
Are we planning on wiping the Zulu out completely?
Is Bombay less likely to flip to the Zulu because it was not their town originally? The town has 3 wonders in it. Coper's - Leo's - and somthing else. Do we try to keep it or not?
Are we planning on wiping the Zulu out completely?
Is Bombay less likely to flip to the Zulu because it was not their town originally? The town has 3 wonders in it. Coper's - Leo's - and somthing else. Do we try to keep it or not?
Tomoyo
Fate
It doesn't matter if Bombay has Zulu or Indian citizens, but the Indian culture in Bombay should make it slightly less likely to flip to the Zulus. Keep it, especially if you're gonna wipe out da Zulus, which I can't see a reason not to.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Starve it down to size 1 and then we will start adding back loyal citizens. Because of the Wonders I'd continue to starve it even after both ZUL & IND are gone from the game.
Mistfit
Deity
Ok - That will be the plan. I'll post in a couple of hours
BTW - Great finishes for you guys in GOTM35! Way to milk it Karasu :moo:
BTW - Great finishes for you guys in GOTM35! Way to milk it Karasu :moo:
DJMGator13
Still breathing
Nice grouping too: #22, #24 & #26.
Alan on your first Predator game. I haven't ventured there yet. Did you find it much different than Open Class?
Alan on your first Predator game. I haven't ventured there yet. Did you find it much different than Open Class?Tomoyo
Fate
Everyone here plays the GOTM except me. 
Oh, well. I started this month. (Predator)
Oh, well. I started this month. (Predator
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Mistfit
Deity
Good luck to ya! I'm getting kicked around a bit on Open
DJMGator13 said:Nice grouping too: #22, #24 & #26.
Apologies for the delayed response. I've been playing some rather intensive turns in SGOTM4
Thanks! I've actually played rather few GOTMs, so I don't know whether the Predator level did me much damage. I took that route to get a faster tech pace as I decided I'd need Sipahi/Dragoons to finish the job, so I wanted to get to Mil Trad fast. That shows how much I know, as knights were enough for some people
I think the start was very benign, and I made a good decision in my view by not taking on Carthage early, waiting for swords. I had a massive military buildup at the beginning, plus a ton of workers, and I think that did a lot of good. I've been looking at the QSC previews and they are interesting!I have played a previous start on Predator but didn't have time to finish. Again, I didn't feel it hurt. I like that tech pace level and I revel in the trading side of keeping up. However, I'm not ready to try it on Emperor (36) or Deity (37 - according to a recent post by Ainwood) yet.
DJMGator13
Still breathing
AlanH said:
Yikes
Now I know what to do this week, since I finished GOTM36 already. Time to run through some Diety games. Hopefully we will get a nice start like this game where we can do a double factory.Similar threads
