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Karma

LapGrizzly

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Karma does not exist. It's great to think or to wish upon something, but it just doesn't hapen. In addition, the main weakness of "karma" is in the fact that you can claim you are simply a vessel of bad karma if you do a bad deed to somebody.

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Karma does not exist. It's great to think or to wish upon something, but it just doesn't hapen. In addition, the main weakness of "karma" is in the fact that you can claim you are simply a vessel of bad karma if you do a bad deed to somebody.

Opinions?

It's even worse than that. Karma is based on the notion that life is fair. Simple observation and experience tells us that this isn't true.
 
Karma does exist in the natural world to some extent. It's what biologists and psychologists would term "Reciprocal Altruism". You do some something good for someone; they do something good for you and vice-versa. Note, that they also assume that True Altruism does not exist - there is no such thing as an unselfish act.
 
LapGrizzly said:
Karma does not exist. It's great to think or to wish upon something, but it just doesn't hapen. In addition, the main weakness of "karma" is in the fact that you can claim you are simply a vessel of bad karma if you do a bad deed to somebody.

Do you even understand what karma is?

Bad karma refers to the sins you've commited in this or past lives and which you'll have to suffer consequences for. Good karma is the good deeds you've commited for which you'll be rewarded.
 
Bad karma refers to the sins you've commited in this or past lives and which you'll have to suffer consequences for. Good karma is the good deeds you've commited for which you'll be rewarded.

Thats like kicking every German in the nuts everytime you see one because theres a very small chance his grandfather might have been a nazi.
 
Thats like kicking every German in the nuts everytime you see one because theres a very small chance his grandfather might have been a nazi.

Nooooooo! That's not the idea at all. Karma is supposed to take care of itself. If you purposely do that, you'll earn yourself bad karma (and probably jail time, too).
 
Insert aneesh coming in to tell everyone how they don't actually understand karma here.
 
The whole point of karma as is my understanding is the Hindu way of taking responsibility of your actions. You can't blame karma for something you did because karma is what happens after an action is done.

Another huge point is that you are supposed to overcome karma. Someone with "bad" karma who acts good will change to having "good" karma or be neutral.

Besides, it is a religious belief. It's just as valid if I said God doesn't exist because people use God's name as an excuse to do something, saying "God will forgive me". Same train of thought as you have- blaming or using a divine essence to justify your actions.
 
The whole point of karma as is my understanding is the Hindu way of taking responsibility of your actions. You can't blame karma for something you did because karma is what happens after an action is done.

Another huge point is that you are supposed to overcome karma. Someone with "bad" karma who acts good will change to having "good" karma or be neutral.

Spot on Spock!
 
The whole point of karma as is my understanding is the Hindu way of taking responsibility of your actions. You can't blame karma for something you did because karma is what happens after an action is done.

well isn't that kind of like letting people get off for free? Plenty of people get off scot free after doing terrible things, what happens then?
 
well isn't that kind of like letting people get off for free? Plenty of people get off scot free after doing terrible things, what happens then?

Then they'll pay for it in the next life and the next and the next.

Karma will get to you eventually, there's no escaping it.
 
well isn't that kind of like letting people get off for free? Plenty of people get off scot free after doing terrible things, what happens then?

Who said they can't still be punished for their actions? In chrisitianity, if you do enough wrong, you go to hell. If you murder someone for example, people might say "you're going to hell", but that still doesn't stop them from putting you in prison for the rest of your life.

Karma is a religious belief. Religious punishment (like hell or being punished in next life) does not stop punishment in real world. If you are getting a bad example from all the hippies that say "It's karma, man", they are just baked and do not represent what Hindu's believe karma to be.
 
Who said they can't still be punished for their actions? In chrisitianity, if you do enough wrong, you go to hell. If you murder someone for example, people might say "you're going to hell", but that still doesn't stop them from putting you in prison for the rest of your life.

Karma is a religious belief. Religious punishment (like hell or being punished in next life) does not stop punishment in real world. If you are getting a bad example from all the hippies that say "It's karma, man", they are just baked and do not represent what Hindu's believe karma to be.

I guess so, i always equate hippies with karma. I'm not religious in the slightest and i personally think its all bull but it's nice to get some misconceptions cleared, thanks.
 
Karma is something that humans made up and widely accept, so that we believe it is true and exists. In our purest form, humans wouldn't have karma.
 
I guess so, i always equate hippies with karma. I'm not religious in the slightest and i personally think its all bull but it's nice to get some misconceptions cleared, thanks.

Glad I can help. Personally, I'm not religious at all (haven't ever attended services of any kind), just I think its important to distinguish those misconceptions from reality. Also I'm very anti-hippie, and I like bashing them as much as possible, calling them baked and so forth :D.
 
Karma does not exist. It's great to think or to wish upon something, but it just doesn't hapen. In addition, the main weakness of "karma" is in the fact that you can claim you are simply a vessel of bad karma if you do a bad deed to somebody.

Opinions?

I believe you reap what you sow. Perhaps not in this life, but good and evil are rewarded accordingly.

Once again I stress that this is a personal belief, not an argument. It is not valid as an argument unless there is a supernatural higher power that agrees with this philosophy. So scamper off and attack someone else :p
 
In its simpliest form karma represents a force for balance in the world. "The smile you send out returns to you." Within the complexities of Hinduism it is all about the manner in which souls accumulate experiences (sanskaras) and are bound into the illusion of Maya (existence) by those experiences. In the end, after many lifetimes, these bindings of experiences come into balance and one is free from Maya. One's karma is the accumlated bindings on the soul.
 
Karma does not exist. It's great to think or to wish upon something, but it just doesn't hapen. In addition, the main weakness of "karma" is in the fact that you can claim you are simply a vessel of bad karma if you do a bad deed to somebody.

Opinions?

Agreed. There is absolutely no mystical form of justice in the galaxy. Some bad people will get away with ****ing the rest of us over and get off scott free. Some good people will suffer their entire lives and never get a respite. If you think otherwise you are suffering from storybook thinking.
 
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