Have you considered to move out to Iran or Syria?
Let's have a vote: Should the West intervene in Syria?
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KmDubya
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I am all for staying out of this. Getting involved will only result in everyone hating the USA more than it does now.
BUT....
If you have to get involved I say we use an upper atmosphere nuclear detonation to cause an electromagnetic pulse to blanket most of Syria and cause all electronic devices to cease functioning. This would stop the chemical factories, planes, helicopters, cars and trucks. It would not kill anyone directly and would make others in the world fear us.
If you are going to use violence to stop violence I say use something totally disproportionate in scale.
BUT....
If you have to get involved I say we use an upper atmosphere nuclear detonation to cause an electromagnetic pulse to blanket most of Syria and cause all electronic devices to cease functioning. This would stop the chemical factories, planes, helicopters, cars and trucks. It would not kill anyone directly and would make others in the world fear us.
If you are going to use violence to stop violence I say use something totally disproportionate in scale.
I'm sure Israel, Lebanon and Turkey, at the very least, would love losing such a large amount of their equipment also.
Rashiminos
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They can do that without the explosion.
Is that even possible.
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
Americans aren't that busy overthrowing the US government, so I suppose we can permit the possibility of that statement.
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Diverse in Unity
Military hardware is generally shielded against EMP, so the worst affected would be the civilian infrastructure.
Not to mention using nukes even in this fashion is unacceptable today.
It would provoke at least a massive diplomatic response, an economic crash as businesses pulled their capital from the US and the sort of public outrage that might just force Obama's resignation.
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BBC: 2 million people have fled Syria
-> Good, soon there won't be any people in Syria left to worry about.
-> Good, soon there won't be any people in Syria left to worry about.
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ReindeerThistle
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I beg your pardon. I certainly AM busy and I got 380,000 workers in the mix, too. We just have 200 years of a dug-in adversary to unseat is all.
Just 'cause it ain't in the news, don't meam it ain't happening.
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Oh Gods no, that would be a disaster. The article is based on a wishful thinking which bears little relation to the geopolitical reality.
For starters - the moment the West starts promoting independent Kurdistan, it loses Turkey for good; i.e. you gain little dirt-poor Kurdish state in former Syria in exchange for a major Western quasi-ally in the region. I sympathize with the plight of the Kurds, but the notion the West should throw its whole foreign policy in the region out of the window for their sake is absurd.
Next - most Syrians are in fact Arabs. Their differences are sectarian/religious, rather than ethnic, unless we want to assert that religion makes an ethnic group. Sometimes it does, but I don't think this is the case.
Last but not least, such a partitioning of Syria would open a Pandora's Box of HURT. Do you realize how many countries in the world are ethnically and religiously diverse? Should the West support their dismemberment as well, perhaps including some of the Western countries such as Spain, Britain, Belgium, France, Italy, Finland, Slovakia, Romania, Canada, the US, etc.? Do we really wish to have ~2000 sovereign states in the world instead of the ~200 we have now? Who on Earth can seriously believe that balkanizing everything would help to make the world more stable?
Gucumatz
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Because he is right. Balkanization would be the way to go for Syria. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. And etc. We can suggest it as a route for peace and perhaps it might be the best way out, if it ends up creating a state where the Alawites still have power and the rest of the nation still has power. Unfortunately any balkanization of Syria I fear wouldn't go far enough
But we aren't exactly in a position to sway this kind of nation splitting if we only get involved via air support/missiles, so its actually not that optimal for us if we get involved. As a peace settlement negotiation between the factions, sure its possible it would work
Edit: And winner, you balkanize everyone but the Kurds
. Of course that would still lead to problems and probably more outrage from the Kurds for being left out again. So the idea would never really probably work out in reality.How did that work out for the Balkans?
Pretty well, actually. If you don't mind the ethnic clensing and whatnot.
ReindeerThistle
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Right. And everyone dumped on Serbia who, with Montenegro, were the only nations who GAVE UP their nation status to form Yugoslavia.
Balkanization works real well for the PTB.
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Did you just claim that Serbia was self-sacrificing in the creation of Yugoslavia?
ReindeerThistle
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Hell, No. Just pointing out that they and Montenegro were not part of the Austrian Empire and were not "liberated" by the creation of Yugoslavia as the Bosnians, Croats, Dalmations, Pomeranians, & al were.
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