Liberal Arts Degree

[Stevenpfo]

These degrees are supposed to one's analysis and critical thinking skills, not to mention researching and writing, which are certainly transferable to business, administration, and industry.

To be honest, these are the main things i've been hoping to get out of it all.

I was also hoping that everyone was right and my Sociology classes would be easier than my Management classes. I'll turn that 95% average into a 100% in no time!

 

[Godwynn]

Nice. I already make 10k more a year than an arts major.

I had one, that I cannot seem to find anymore, that broke down business majors among Finance, Accounting, Management, Marketing, and Economics.

Perhaps some Google Experts will find it.

 

[Arwon]

Oh, OK. So it just means "Arts Degree".

How could researching and writing papers possibly be as intelligent as doing long math problems? Clearly, only dumb people do the liberal arts!

Bingo!

 

[DNK]

it doesn't teach any pracitical skills or knowledge

Depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you plan on going into journalism or a creative career, it certainly helps.

it doesn't get you a job, or even an internship

A lot of employers are just looking for a degree

it doesn't get you any money

Hmmm... well...

after four years, you're "total knowledge" in the subject doesn't make you better off than four years ago.

Depends on your definition of "better"... Not everyone has finances as their priority in life.

Very, very little respect from regular people

Regular people don't bother me much

A liberal arts degree isn't really all that challenging

Perhaps it's no advanced science degree, but it's not arts and crafts either...

Funny fact, many lawyers are composed of liberal arts majors who realized the uselessness of Foucault and Finnis.

Or philosophy majors who realized the importance of understanding logic and argumentative discourse.

I don't see the problem with a liberal arts degree for undergrad work, since you can always go on and get a graduate degree in something more "substantive" later. I have a bit of an issue with people that look down on studying humanities, honestly. It's a necessary aspect of any society to have a part of its whole focused on the arts and serves as a reflexive agent. It's only in a purely production-oriented value system that liberal arts is on shaky ground, but even then it can be seen as enhancing productivity by improving the lives of the employed. And we do need someone to work as a bank teller or salesman, now don't we?

 

[DNK]

The liberal arts classes I was required to have involved A LOT of bullcrapping to get a good grade. So I imagine by the time you do an entire major you are pretty good at the skill of bullcrapping, and since business management is mainly bullcrapping, you are prepared for that job.

Precisely. I can bullcrap with the best of them.

Thank Allah I'm a business major.

What a weak major Business is so easy, a fluff discipline in comparison to engineering. Too lazy to be a chemical engineer, I see? Apparently being average is something to boast about now?

 

[GenMarshall]

Funny fact, many lawyers are composed of liberal arts majors who realized the uselessness of Foucault and Finnis.

I only had one semester that had to do with English Literature (Though Technicaly American Literature). Most of the courses that I have taken were largely Psychology courses (The Associates in Marine Science picked up the slack for the Physical Science Requirements), Some Business, and Some computers. Plus I have managed when I was in the degree to pick up a few Internships that were Business related.

I only ended up in the liberal arts program because I was originally in the Psychology Major program and the capstone project (A major project before you graduate and must be completed before then) was just difficult so being an impatient individual, I hopped onto the liberal arts major in order to graduate.

Thank Allah I'm a business major.

I want to have a business degree

Slamming liberal arts degrees is popular on CFC because we have a lot of computer science, physics, engineering etc. students who like to stroke their egos. How could researching and writing papers possibly be as intelligent as doing long math problems? Clearly, only dumb people do the liberal arts!

Thats what I mainly noticed around here is that slamming and bashing liberal arts degrees is quite popular around these parts that it's almost to the border of trolling.

We have several international insurance companies, along with other huge companies, that hire people with liberal arts degrees all the time.

And where are they placed in?

If you want to go into Law, Business, or any type of Administration, there is nothing wrong with a liberal arts degree. These degrees are supposed to one's analysis and critical thinking skills, not to mention researching and writing, which are certainly transferable to business, administration, and industry.

Thats certanly a hope, but not good enough for me since I want a better degree than the one I have.

If you get a Liberal Arts degree though, you prob. will have to go to graduate school.

Chances are I would have to get a second degree. I can't even get into graduate school with atrocious GPA scores .

 

[Godwynn]

What a weak major Business is so easy, a fluff discipline in comparison to engineering. Too lazy to be a chemical engineer, I see? Apparently being average is something to boast about now?

I don't think there is one university that has a major of "Business". Usually there are many majors that encompass a College of Business at a major university. Business is just a broad and generalized term.

 

[downtown]

And where are they placed in?

Mostly sales and marking positions to start, and many end up in management.

If your GPA stinks, you might consider working for a company like UPS for a little while (somebody who will reimburse you for your tuition), and take some classes
at a community or state college to raise your GPA.

 

[GenMarshall]

I don't think there is one university that has a major of "Business". Usually there are many majors that encompass a College of Business at a major university. Business is just a broad and generalized term.

Arent there subcategories of Business Majors?

Mostly sales and marking positions to start, and many end up in management.

So Shared Labor (A department I am in) assignens me to accounting and marketing departments, would that be normal? Though I doubt I am management material right now .

If your GPA stinks, you might consider working for a company like UPS for a little while (somebody who will reimburse you for your tuition), and take some classes
at a community or state college to raise your GPA.

Umm, I am working for the Native Americans in a Casino silly . At least they have a career center and can help with tuition reimbursement. Though the problem will lie with trying to go back to college and hold potential two jobs (one in the Casino and one in some Sub Shipyard as a draftsmen)

Plus my self-esteem and confidence in taking college courses have really taken a severe beating from my stinky GPA and trying to recover from a Freshman mishap.

 

[downtown]

Arent there subcategories of Business Majors?

Yeah. Here, you can get a degree in Business Administration, Marketing, Real Estate, and a few other things, at the BA level.

 

[Godwynn]

Arent there subcategories of Business Majors?

There are Five at SIUC:

Finance
Business Economics
Marketing
Accounting
Management

Each one of those subcategories has a specialization, for example Finance has:

Investments
Management of Financial Institutions
Financial Operations
Real Estate

 

[Arwon]

Funny fact, many lawyers are composed of liberal arts majors who realized the uselessness of Foucault and Finnis.

You know, where I'm from, people can't study law by itself, they need to combine it with something else, typically arts or commerce.

And the majority of the judges of the High Court of Australia have Arts degrees.

 

[GoodGame]

That is an old accusation. I remember considering liberal arts in high school almost 20 years ago, and the same stigma existed. In the end, I stuck with the sciences and chose to stick to 'Sciences' degrees.

I don't think there's anything inherently bad about liberal arts, though if you do go for that degree, it's probably better to take it at a school with a rigorous and well-known program. I think some of the stigma with liberal arts, is that at other schools where it is given, it may be considered the equivalent of 'general studies', and therefore a cop out after you failed a harder major. I think some of the other stigma is about how employable a liberal arts student will be. Myself, if I were pursuing it, I'd definitely only do so as a minor or dual major.

In the end, a high GPA is a high GPA, regardless of the degree, and some post-secondary programs will look for entrants who are well-rounded and not just following the choo-choo train . If you do pursue science and math though, a "Sciences" degree is the way to go unless perhaps you're going into education or similar.

I've been reading through another thread or two on here and this kind of degree keeps getting negative treatment. Why? What is so bad about it?

 

[jessiecat]

Depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you plan on going into journalism or a creative career, it certainly helps.
A lot of employers are just looking for a degree
Hmmm... well...
Depends on your definition of "better"... Not everyone has finances as their priority in life.
Regular people don't bother me much
Perhaps it's no advanced science degree, but it's not arts and crafts either...
Or philosophy majors who realized the importance of understanding logic and argumentative discourse.

I don't see the problem with a liberal arts degree for undergrad work, since you can always go on and get a graduate degree in something more "substantive" later. I have a bit of an issue with people that look down on studying humanities, honestly. It's a necessary aspect of any society to have a part of its whole focused on the arts and serves as a reflexive agent. It's only in a purely production-oriented value system that liberal arts is on shaky ground, but even then it can be seen as enhancing productivity by improving the lives of the employed. And we do need someone to work as a bank teller or salesman, now don't we?

Exactly my point. The people in this thread slamming liberal arts degrees
seem only to be interested only in making more money, doing what they
call something "useful" or getting into higher management positions.
What about the joy of actually learning about life and the world?
If all education means to you is a fast track to employment, then get
an apprenticeshjp, be a plumber and make the really big bucks!

 

[The Yankee]

Thank Allah I'm a business major.

Finance, FTW.

That said, I won't completely knock a degree in one of the many liberal arts. Assuming that you're not just loafing around (which could be possible in any field, but I have seen a higher percentage of those in a liberal arts major as an anecdote), you should be able to process your thoughts better, communicate better, and organize a report/project better than when you were 18. That probably counts for something in a good number of areas.

 

[DNK]

I don't think there is one university that has a major of "Business". Usually there are many majors that encompass a College of Business at a major university. Business is just a broad and generalized term.

Right, a major under the business heading. Correct me on the fact there isn't an "engineering" major while you're at it, as well as there not being a "liberal arts" major, but first use the term yourself and make sure you correct your own words in a quote of yours in my post...

You're the one that used the term; I'm the one getting corrected

 

[Godwynn]

Right, a major under the business heading. Correct me on the fact there isn't an "engineering" major while you're at it, as well as there not being a "liberal arts" major, but first use the term yourself and make sure you correct your own words in a quote of yours in my post...

You're the one that used the term; I'm the one getting corrected

You have some issues you need to get sorted out. ZOMG BUSINESS WHAT A WEAK MAJOR!!1111 LOLOLOLOL

I don't see what motivated that comment.

ROLLEYEZ!

 

[DNK]

I'm not really lazy myself, but what's wrong with it if someone else is? Whatever makes you happy, and for lazy people it's obviously not money...

 

[DNK]

You have some issues you need to get sorted out. ZOMG BUSINESS WHAT A WEAK MAJOR!!1111 LOLOLOLOL

I don't see what motivated that comment.

ROLLEYEZ!

Just responding to all the "ZOMG LIBERAL ARTZ WUT A WEAK MAJOR!!!1111 LOLOLOLOL" on the thread in kind, as this is a fairly "fun" thread. Thanking God that you're a business major and not a liberal arts major because of pay rate was what I was attacking, which I responded to by saying that, on the pay scale, it's nothing to thank God over because engineers make more than the business majors listed, and in terms of numbers, a lot of those business majors are very "average" in pay rate. Then you corrected me on something you said. Then you made the post I just quoted and flipped out because I made some joking comments about you nitpicking yourself via me somehow, which made me confused

 

[Godwynn]

Just responding to all the "ZOMG LIBERAL ARTZ WUT A WEAK MAJOR!!!1111 LOLOLOLOL" on the thread in kind, as this is a fairly "fun" thread. Thanking God that you're a business major and not a liberal arts major because of pay rate was what I was attacking, which I responded to by saying that, on the pay scale, it's nothing to thank God over because engineers make more than the business majors listed, and in terms of numbers, a lot of those business majors are very "average" in pay rate. Then you corrected me on something you said. Then you made the post I just quoted and flipped out because I made some joking comments about you nitpicking yourself via me somehow, which made me confused

I was posting a scale of pay for CivGeneral to reference because in another thread he was complaining about his lack of pay and hours. I said Thank Allah because I love my business classes, if I was going for straight out pay I would be Pre-Law or Pre-Med.