Liberals Protesting Democracy

[Mechanicalsalvation]

No, it's not. You either don't understand what democracy is, or you don't understand why the electoral college was originally devised.

Either way democracy (in some form and degree) has been served.

 

[Lexicus]

Either way democracy (in some form and degree) has been served.

So again, I refer you to the fact that Clinton received more votes and lost the election. That isn't democracy, it's minority rule. Minority rule is arguably the opposite of democracy.

 

[NovaKart]

I work with several Syrian refugees. One of them asked me, after seeing scenes of the protests and riots on tv, if there would end up being something like the FSA in America. I said, uh, no. As bad as it is no.

 

[civman110]

So again, I refer you to the fact that Clinton received more votes and lost the election. That isn't democracy, it's minority rule. Minority rule is arguably the opposite of democracy.

Whatever, believe whatever you'd like. Protest, cause civil unrest and even more division because you lost the election. The election results will be enforced one way or the other and we can do it the easy way, or we can do it the hard way. I'm fine with either option.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Whatever, believe whatever you'd like. Protest, cause civil unrest and even more division because you lost the election. The election results will be enforced one way or the other and we can do it the easy way, or we can do it the hard way. I support either option.

What exactly is this "hard way" that you support?

 

[civman110]

What exactly is this "hard way" that you support?

By any means necessary. The rule of law will be upheld.

 

[Agent327]

No it isn't, in almost every democracy it is possible for a party to get elected into office without receiving the most number of votes.

Actually, that only applies in countries that have some sort of district system. It certainly doesn't apply to the world's largest democracy - India.

 

[civman110]

Actually, that only applies in countries that have some sort of district system. It certainly doesn't apply to the world's largest democracy - India.

Because India is such a lovely modern country.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

So again, I refer you to the fact that Clinton received more votes and lost the election. That isn't democracy, it's minority rule. Minority rule is arguably the opposite of democracy.

In the opposite of democracy people do not go out to vote.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

By any means necessary. The rule of law will be upheld.

So, call in the national guard and open fire? Is that included in your "any means"?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

In the opposite of democracy people do not go out to vote.

Not necessarily. The examples of totalitarian governments making voting in the single candidate 'election' mandatory are numerous.

 

[AlpsStranger]

Look, I think the result was a terrible and it is going to have direct and possibly brutal consequences in my own life. It could ( though it's not guaranteed, it's pretty up-in-the-air right now to be honest ) end up costing me thousands and thousands in medical bills. Frankly, the choice the voters made was horsehockey.

Ultimately, Obamacare is going to be brutalized and/or repealed. Hopefully they have some kind of grace period or something.

But it was the result. We can fight tooth and nail on individual issue and even filibuster stuff, and even protest, but it was the result. A terrible result.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

So, call in the national guard and open fire? Is that included in your "any means"?

Didnt some genius from US invent that democracy can be spread with war?/joke

 

[Zkribbler]

Because India is such a lovely modern country.

Denigrating an entire nation based upon an outdated stereotype. Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Look, I think the result was a terrible and it is going to have direct and possibly brutal consequences in my own life. It could ( though it's not guaranteed, it's pretty up-in-the-air right now to be honest ) end up costing me thousands and thousands in medical bills. Frankly, the choice the voters made was horsehockey.

Ultimately, Obamacare is going to be brutalized and/or repealed. Hopefully they have some kind of grace period or something.

The mantra has been "repeal and replace." AFAIK there has been absolutely nothing done by any Republican legislator to even lay any groundwork for a replacement. From a practical standpoint there is no way to just "white out" the existing law and leave it blank, so until they have come up with something to write in, which by all indications they are too stupid to do, there won't be anything removed. I'd worry, but not too much.

 

[Zkribbler]

Didnt some genius from US invent that democracy can be spread with war?/joke

Actually, that was young Napoleon Bonaparte [before he decided it'd be cool if he made himself emperor].

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Not necessarily. The examples of totalitarian governments making voting in the single candidate 'election' mandatory are numerous.

Right but thats only a show for the outside and something being staged up. The totalitarian systems do not depend on it. What we are talking about is different.

 

[AlpsStranger]

The mantra has been "repeal and replace." AFAIK there has been absolutely nothing done by any Republican legislator to even lay any groundwork for a replacement. From a practical standpoint there is no way to just "white out" the existing law and leave it blank, so until they have come up with something to write in, which by all indications they are too stupid to do, there won't be anything removed. I'd worry, but not too much.

I'm under expanded medicaid in my state. I'm basically hoping for the best and planning for the worst.

And a truly amazing girlfriend broke up with me like four days before the election so, yeah, feeling pretty ****

EDIT: I agree, for the record. The idea of just nuking Obamacare from orbit sounds a lot better( to some folks ) until you realize you have hordes of people depending on it now. I'm somewhat protected by the sheer political damage it would due to throw us all off. For now. But I really have to be earning more money by the time the **** hits the fan or my life will fall off the rails.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Right but thats only a show for the outside and something being staged up. The totalitarian systems do not depend on it. What we are talking about is different.

But you did say "in the opposite of democracy people don't go out and vote," which is demonstrably and glaringly incorrect. Whether people go out and vote, or don't, is not necessarily a good indicator of the existence of democracy.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Actually, that was young Napoleon Bonaparte [before he decided it'd be cool if he made himself emperor].

I am little doubtful here.