LK158, CCM2, Canada

[Jersey Joe]

Very good turn set.

I think you left the following in from your previous turn set.

Turn 8 - 1480AD
IT Oh dear, we go 1-4 on Brazilian heavy counters near Rio
Brazil's new city Recife along the coast has grown to pop 2, ready to take

Spain will trade us Saltpeter, 82 gpt and some gold for Renaissance. Should last us until we get Saltpeter from the former US.

I favor building a few ships and taking the last Japanese city.

 

[ThERat]

Wow, I actually checked every turn with Spain and all they would give us was saltpeter and nothing else. Must have popped up this turn, this deal is surely worth taking.

*thanks for the pointer of the copy paste thing

 

[LKendter]

Spain will trade us Saltpeter, 82 gpt and some gold for Renaissance. Should last us until we get Saltpeter from the former US.

Sounds like we can use up some of that gold upgrading pikes to muskets. That will improve our defense a lot

 

[Takeo]

some of the animations just aren't calibrated correctly. It's like they're running each frame 3 times or something (hopefully it's not just my potato laptop being slow at loading the frames!).

It's not your laptop. Some of the units from Imperator1961 are set with slow animation times for some reason. With Flicster these issues can be taken care of, fortunately.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Note: The Civilopedia information that relates to the British Bombard (used by Canada) is missing. Takeo fixed this early in January 2018.
The fix can be found here: British Bombard.txt

 

[Jersey Joe]

Here is a dot map with 4 city sites that will complete our colonization of the western side of the land mass we are on.

Red spot is same as previously shown.
Yellow spot just looks good to me.
Light Green spot was chosen because of the food resources. Also, to large overlap with Miami is mostly desert.
Light Blue spot completes our borders when cities get to to the 3rd ring.

I think the order of settling should be Red then Yellow.
The next settler
This settler might go to the Arab land mass.
Otherwise, Light Blue before Light Green.

 

[Civinator]

Takeo made a quick fix of the unit animations of the Native HL. This fix can be uploaded at the CCM2 testforum and will also be included in the upcoming CCM2 update.

Takeo, thank you very much!

 

[LKendter]

ROSTER:

LKendter
Elephantium
TheRat
Greebley (up)
Jersey Joe (on deck)

 

[Greebley]

I have it.

 

[Greebley]

Preturn: Switch Calgary for 1 turn Pikes for now rather than 2 turn Knights. Also Tokyo and Edo are switched to Castles. The 75% defense might help so will work on those. Would rush (only) if it looks like it would be better to defend.

We look not quite ready for war with Tokyo currently vulnerable so it will be turn or two to continue to move units into position.

IBT: Buddist and Islamic Art completed.

1505 AD: My thought was to try planting a spy to see what units USA had. This puts us at war when the spy is caught.

Decide to play it defensively since we don't have sufficient defense 3 units on the front lines yet. Fall back to deal with the initial rush; then we can advance when we are stronger than them

1510 AD: Kill most of a large-ish stack.

We got a Monk so renamed Quebec with (Monks)

IBT: No units attack; I am trying to avoid 'bad odds' for now.

1515 AD: Stack near Tokyo and Stack near Quebec dealt with. One Brave is a sacrifice to stop Spear on Iron.

IBT: Brave killed and also a Pike

1520 AD: In truly awful RNG we lose 2 Missionary attacking def 1 Catapults. We have only 1 Missionary left.

Kill off enemy units, but it is getting harder to control. We may lose some units this IBT.
On the plus side we are now strong vs the US.

IBT: Do lose 2 stacks with Knight and Pike, but take serveral units with us doing so.

Built Cogs to the south.

1525 AD: More units killed and no US units remain in our lands.
Going to stop here after 5 turns. Won't be able to play more until next weekend.

Able to trade Renassiance with Spain and Israel. We picked up Saltpeter with the Spain trade so upgraded some Pike.

Notes:
US stacks are smaller; we can likely go on the offensive soon.

I have built 3 cogs. This can take 9 units to remove Japan from the map. We might be able to stop starving cities down. Units near Kyoto are the last 2.

We can now afford Naval Guns or University for most of our money and possibly trade for Sacred art. I didn't do this yet; it might be nice if we could pick up more than just sacred art if we are going to spend all our gold.

 

[LKendter]

Posted pre-turn

Spain will trade us Saltpeter, 82 gpt and some gold for Renaissance.

1525 AD:
Able to trade Renassiance with Spain and Israel. We picked up Saltpeter with the Spain trade so upgraded some Pike.

Confused what happened here. This trade was mentioned pre-turn, but didn't happen until several turns in.


ROSTER:

LKendter (on deck)
Elephantium
TheRat
Greebley
Jersey Joe (up)

 

[Jersey Joe]

I got it.

 

[Greebley]

Looks like I missed it when I looked at the previous report. Not sure why I didn't spot it the first turn when looking for deals however on the first turn.

I did have a headache when playing so my concentration wasn't as good as usual. Didn't want to wait another week to play the game.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Before Ending 1525 AD
MM some cities. and I hit enter:
Between Turn:
3 Pikemen killed by US Catapult, Siege Bow, and Chariot. (0, 3).
Medieval Infantry killed by Chariot (0, 4).
Knight kills invisible unit (missionary?) (1, 4).

1530 AD:
eKnight kills Chariot (2, 4); eKnight kills Native Spear (3, 4);
Knight kills Native Spear (4, 4); Knight killed by Native Spear (4, 5); eKnight kills Native Spear (5, 5); Knight kills Native Spear (6, 5); eNative Horseman kills wounded pike (7, 5);
Between Turns:
American troops move toward Tokyo and Quebec. Pikeman defends against an invisible unit (missionary?).

1535 AD:
eEnslaver creates a worker (8, 5); Enslaver creates a worker (9, 5); eKnight kills Native Archer (10, 5); Tomahawk Warrior killed by Pike (10, 6); eEnslaver kills Pike (11, 6); Knight kills Spearman (12, 6); Knight kills Catapult (13, 6); Horse Lancer kills Archer (14, 6); Knight kills Crossbow (15, 6); Trebuchet kills Native Spear (16, 6); Knight kills Native Spear (17, 6); Knight kills Pike (18, 6); eHorse Lancer kills Spear (19, 6); Elephant kills Pike (20, 6); Missionary kills Longbow (21, 6); Musketman killed by Native Spear (21, 7).
Between Turns:
Knight kills Elephant (22, 7); Knight kills Camel (23, 7).

1540 AD:
Capture of Atlanta:
Knight kills regular Musket (24, 7); Knight kills regular Pike (25, 7) Knight kills regular Pike (26, 7); Knight kills Camel (27, 7); Enslaver kills Catapult (28, 7) and Atlanta is captured.
Knight kills Siege Bow (29, 7); eKnight kills Spear (30, 7); Knight kills Longbow (31, 7); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (32, 7); Knight kills regular Pike (33, 7); Knight kills Spear (34, 7); Knight killed by Medieval Infantry (34, 8); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (35, 8); Knight kills Longbow (36,8); Bombard kills Pike (37, 8); Knight killed by Pike (37, 9); Knight kills Pike (38, 9).
Galleass sinks Junk (39, 9); Medieval Infantry kills Longbow (40, 9).
Between Turns:
Medieval Infantry kills 2 Native Longbows (42, 9); Medieval Infantry killed by Native Longbow (42, 10).
India moves a stack of troops next to Satsuma.
Greece builds Sacred Music.
An American Native Spearman escorting a Settler has encountered our Group building a road to Yellow Dot settlement site..

1545 AD
We get University from Arabia for 8166 gold and 297 gpt.
We trade University to India for Naval Guns, Sacred Art and 744 gold.
I do not trade with Spain. They only offer 20 gpt for Scared Art, or Naval Guns. Similar situation with Israel.

Edmonton switches to building Jolly Roger.

eKnight punishes the poor scouting of the Spearman escorting the US settler by killing him and capturing the Settler giving us a Worker (43, 10).

Knight kills Bombard (44, 10); eKnight kills Spearman (45, 10); eKnight kills Longbow (46, 10); eKnight kills Longbow (47, 10); Knight kills Pike (48, 10); eEnslaver kills Longbow (49, 10);
Troops move into position to attack Chicago and San Francisco.

Between Turns:
India moves its troops further into out territory.
Native Horseman retreats from attack by US Crossbow (only attack made).

1550 AD:
Edmonton completes Jolly Rodger.
Spain and Israel do not have enough money to make a trade.

Capture of Chicago:
Knight killed by Musketman (49, 11); Knight kills Musketman (50, 11); eKnight kills Pike (51, 11); We get a great leader.
Knight kills Musketman (52, 11). Chicago is captured.

Great Leader rushes a Castle in Atlanta.
eknight kills Spear (53, 11); eKnight kills a Crossbow (54, 11);

Capture of San Francisco:
Bombard kills Musketman (55, 11); eKnight kills Musketman (56, 11); Crossbow kills Pike (57, 11); Knight killed Musketman (57, 12); Knight kills Pike (58, 12); Knight kills Tomahawk Warrior (59, 12). San Francisco is capture.

Knight is killed by Pike (59, 13); Knight kills Pike (60, 13); eKnight kills Enslaver (61, 13); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (62, 13); Knight killed by Medieval Infantry (62, 14); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (63, 14); Knight kills Spearman (64, 14); Knight kills Spearman (65, 14); Knight kills Elephant (66, 14); Knight kills Hindu Fanatic (67, 14);
Between Turns:
India moves its troops back toward its borders.
Native Brave killed by Missionary (67, 15)

1555 AD:
Capture of Miami:
Knight killed by Pike (67,16); Knight kills Spear (68, 16); Knight kills Pike (69, 16); Knight kills Crossbow (70, 16). Miami is captured.
Knight kills Pike (71, 16);

Japan RIP:
Knight killed by Asian Spear (71, 17); eKnight kills Asian Spear (72, 17) Pike kills Asian Pike (73, 17). Izumi is captured.


Protecting Atlanta:
Bombard kills Native Spear (74, 17); Bombard kills Native Spear (75, 17); Knight killed by Tomahawk Warrior (75, 18); Knight kills Tomahawk Warrior (76, 18); Knight kills Tomahawk Warrior (77, 18); Knight killed by Tomahawk Warrior (77, 19); Knight kills Tomahawk Warrior (78, 19); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (79, 19); Knight kills Longbow (80, 19); Knight kills Longbow (81, 19); Knight kills Crossbow (82, 19); Enslaver captures a Tomahawk Warrior (83, 19); Missionary kills Crossbow (84, 19); eEnslaver kills Pike (85, 19).

Knight kills Indian Enslaver (86, 19).
Between Turns:
India switches direction moves its troops deeper into our territory.
Knight kills US Missionary (87, 19); eHorse Lancer kills Medieval Infantry (88, 19);

1560 AD:
Capture of Boston:
eBombard kills Musketman (89, 19); Knight kills Spear (90, 19); Knight kills Crossbow (91, 19). Boston is captured.

Capture of Seattle:
Knight killed by Musketman (91, 20); Knight kills Musketman (92, 20); Knight killed by Pike (92, 21); Knight killed by Pike (92, 22); Knight kills Pike (93, 23); Knight kills Crossbow (94, 23); Knight kills Crossbow (95, 23). Seattle is captured.

Knight kills Indian Enslaver (96, 23).
Start shifting troops towards defending and attacking India

Between turns:
India stack advances into our territory.

1565 AD:
Capture of Washington:
Knight killed by Musketman (96, 24); eKnight killed by Musketman (96, 25); eKnight killed by Musketman (96, 26); eKnight killed by Musketman (96, 27); Knight killed by Musketman (96, 28); Knight kills Musketman (97, 28); Knight killed by Musketman (97, 29); Knight kills Musketman (98, 29); Knight kills Musketman (99, 29). Washington is captured.
Between turns:
India moves its troops out of the mountains onto grass.


1570 AD:
Knight kills Musketman (100, 29);
Our troops are in position to bring the benefits of our benevolent rule to the 2 remaining US cities next turn (if things go as planned).

India has given us a nice target of opportunity. However, I give India a chance to avoid war by asking them nicely for 2658 gold and 200 gpt. Foolishly, they decline my generous offer. Therefore, I declare war on them.

Eliminating the invading Sod:
Knight kills Hindu Pike (101, 29); Knight kills Spearman (102, 29); Knight kills Spearman (103, 29); eKnight kills Spearman (104, 29); eKnight kills Golden Archer (105, 29); eMissionary kills Golden Archer (106, 29); eBombard kills Catapult (107, 29); eKnight kills Crossbow (108, 29); Missionary kills Golden Archer (109, 29).

Near Satsuma:
Knight killed by Pike (109, 30); Knight kills Crossbow (110, 30); eEnslaver kills Pike (111, 30); Knight killed by Hindu Fanatic (111, 31); eSiege Bow kills Hindu Fanatic (112, 31);
Between turns:


1575 AD:
Liberation of New York:
Knight kills Musketman (113, 31); Elephant kills Musketman (114, 31); eKnight kills Pike (115, 31). New York is liberated.

Liberation of Philadelphia:
Knight killed by Pike (115, 32); Knight kills Pike (116, 32); Knight kills Pike (117, 32); Knight kills Pike (118, 32); Knight kills Crossbow (119, 32). Philadelphia is liberated. Philly yells something about superbowl amd free beer.



Defending Satsuma:
Knight kills Pike (120, 32); Knight kills Pike (121, 32); Knight kills Spear (122, 32); Knight kills Swordman (123, 32); Knight kills Crossbow (124, 32); Knight kills Crossbow (125, 32); Knight kills Siege Crossbow (126, 32);
Between turns:
Galleass sunk by Catapult ship (127, 33); Cog sinks Catapult ship (128, 33);

1580 AD:
Galleass sinks Catapult ship (129, 33)

Defending Satsuma:
eBombard kills Siege Crossbow (130, 33); Knight killed by Pike (130, 34); Knight kills Pike (131, 34); Knight kills Pike (132, 34); eKnight kills Medieval Infantry (133, 34); eMissionary kills Pike (134, 34); Knight killed by Medieval Infantry (134, 35); eSiege-Bow kills Pike (135, 35); Knight kills Crossbow (136, 35); Missionary kills Crossbow (137, 35); Knight kills Medieval Infantry (138, 35).
Between turns:
Watch India move 6 more troops into position for us to kill.

1585 AD:
I make a few “house keeping” moves and turn the Kingdom over to LK.
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Edit: Hindu Fanatics are invisible units /edit
I have been using Explorers (they can see invisible units) as either scouts or MPs.
2 tiles below Nagasaki is a group of workers I have been using to build roads.

I have been checking for trade every turn.
Finally this turn, Arabia will trade Exploration to us for a lot of gold.
Spain and Israel never seemed to have enough cash to trade.

The bulk of our army is fortified in Satsuma. I have just been staying in Satsuma and letting India move onto the grass and killing the troops they put there with Knights and other fast moving troops.

I spend most of my turn set building infrastructure in old Brazil. It really hurts not having more luxuries. I have one Privateer out scouting for new trading partners.
Pictures will be in my next post.
Here is the game:

 

[Jersey Joe]

Spoiler India 1585 AD :

Spoiler North Canada 1585 AD :

Spoiler Western Lands 1585 AD :

Here is some place I think we should consider annexing.

Spoiler Italy 1585 AD :

 

[LKendter]

Nice set with USA and Japan gone.

I may play whack a stack with India most of my round. With them being a double-size empire, I don't want to invade until we have a monster stack to hit them with.

The invasion of Italy is tough to call. We gain zero luxuries. That is what we need the most. It only pays off IMO if we get to sell the resources from that island. No matter what, we don't need to discuss until India is gone. My gut says the tough fight of Arabia next. We really need to break that wonder hog.



ROSTER:

LKendter (up)
Elephantium (on deck)
TheRat
Greebley
Jersey Joe

 

[Elephantium]

We'll have more options once India is gone. I recommend building some ships during this turnset; we'll want a navy ready to go when the time is ripe to land on the next island.

 

[Jersey Joe]

The reason I mentioned Italy is that they are so backward we should be able to quickly conquer them and add 6 money producing cities to our empire.

LK should get at least 1 settler this turn set if not a second from Circus Maximus. Should we consider settling on Arabia's land mass?

 

[LKendter]

India is a frelling monster with obscene stacks. I expect my whole set to be trying to knock off the initial rush. Wheel spinning fight is the most painful. Killing tons when moving forward at least feels like you are getting some where.

Former Brazil is building ships and troops to get our first city on Arabia's land mass. We are going to need a safe starting point to hit that area.

 

[Greebley]

Nice work on US.

I agree getting a city on the continent should be the use of the next settlers.

Not sure on Italy either. They will be closer than the other cities so less corrupted - getting them early is an advantage, but there will be a lot of weak units in the initial rush. We may want to go for Israel first.