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Lying To Get a Job

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Commodore, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. illram

    illram Deity Retired Moderator

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    I mean, obviously this is a bad idea. Aside from the obvious, from a legal perspective, thanks to what is known as the "after acquired evidence" doctrine, if you lie to get your job, you are basically totally screwed if your employer wrongfully terminates you.

    Do not lie to employers, kids.
     
  2. Souron

    Souron The Dark Lord

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    I don't see why self-promotion need include anything that could be called a lie.
     
  3. Pegasus_77

    Pegasus_77 Prince of the Wealth

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    by caught do you mean you are an HR?
     
  4. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    So you're saying I should preferentially hire liars so that I don't have to worry about wrongfully terminating employees?
     
  5. Tarquelne

    Tarquelne Follower of Tytalus

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    Impractical. Change your copies of their CVs to make them liars.
     
  6. timtofly

    timtofly One Day

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    I worked 5 jobs before the current one. Two of them, I was fired from and they still exist. 3 I walked away from and they were my best references, but they no longer exist. The two I was fired from, would probably give decent references, but the reason I was fired would be a major sticking point with most businesses for hiring me.

    I would never lie, but I may try to avoid revealing my weakest point, that may preclude me from getting a job.
     
  7. illram

    illram Deity Retired Moderator

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    As long as no one can tie you to this post, yes. Although you live in Canada so all bets are off.
     
  8. downtown

    downtown Crafternoon Delight

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    I used to be. I'm not anymore (although I still interview job candidates)
     
  9. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Everyone lies. It's impossible not to, imo. Even with the best intentions in the world, we simply don't know what the whole truth is, often enough.

    A totally truthful person (if there is any such animal) is never going to find employment, and even if they did they'd be extremely unpopular.

    (I'm being... what?... hyperbolic, perhaps.)
     
  10. Pegasus_77

    Pegasus_77 Prince of the Wealth

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    what is the most unforgettable interview for you?
    Did you hire somebody who turned out to be a very valuable talent?
     
  11. ywhtptgtfo

    ywhtptgtfo Emperor

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    Are you as snotty as your profile photo suggests? Assuming that's not you.
     
  12. Goodfella

    Goodfella Showing results for

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    That's Christoph Waltz in Django Unchained. I don't see how it's snotty.
     
  13. ywhtptgtfo

    ywhtptgtfo Emperor

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    He looks very unimpressed and about to reject the next idea proposed to him.
     
  14. Light Cleric

    Light Cleric ElCee/LC/El Cid

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    I don't think the avatar or what he posted are snotty.

    Although now at least I know where the avatar is from, before he just reminded me of a guy from an Arby's commercial.
     
  15. civver_764

    civver_764 Deity

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    Yeah I lie about my criminal record.
     
  16. downtown

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    I can't say many of them are especially unforgettable. There was the candidate who misrepresented her experience when she was a stripper that became a kinda funny interview, and a handful people of people came in who were just dramatically unprepared for the experience, but most of them essentially follow a script.

    I've hired lots of people who were very important contributors for their organizations.

    In the US, that's probably the single dumbest thing you could possibly lie about.
     
  17. cramstpuee757

    cramstpuee757 Chieftain

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    Of course not. That's like digging your own grave :crazyeye:
     
  18. Commodore

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    It would be small things like rounding up on numbers to make yourself seem a little more productive or valuable as an employee. To me there is nothing wrong with making yourself seem just a tiny bit better than you actually are, it's the outright lies (which I have dealt with) that really grind my gears.
     
  19. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    You mean you pretend you've got one when you haven't?

    I can imagine that might be useful. Depending on what jobs you want to avoid.
     
  20. Pegasus_77

    Pegasus_77 Prince of the Wealth

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    I think he meant the opposite
     

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