Man Caught on Video Not Helping Fatally Shot Man

Does DC have any "Good Samaritan" laws that several NE states have been experimenting with? (You know, the type that the Seinfeld gang was arrested on)
 
Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Few USA jusridictions have laws requiring bystanders to render aid. Inddeed there is even little legal duty to report crime, and most of that has been created in my lifetime. In most jusridictions a bystanders only legal duty (a in some jusridictions not even this) in this case would have been to remain at scene and indetify hisself to the police as a witness.
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That's too bad. One thing that my years in law showed me is that to life and death matters, you cannot trust people common sense. There is people who actually refuses to take people to the hospital to get in time in the movies, or not to loose the tickets to some sports event, or another equally insane reason.

Really, there are people that really does not deserve the status of human beings... :(

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
And of course there are many personal rather than philishopical reason to avoid interview with police, such as outsatanding warrants.
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Again, I'm talking about Brazilian law... but here, it is not an excuse, as no one can pledge on the bases of their own iniquity. It works like this: As the law recognizes that no one can be forced to willingly surrender their freedom, not showing up after a warrant is sent is not a crime "de per si"; however, as doing so is a fault before the law, a person in that situation cannot use it as an excuse not to fulfill another legal duty. So, despite it is a relevant reason, in that situation it would be treated as if not, and the person than would have another penal sentence on his back.

Regards :).
 
Originally posted by china444
What is your problem with helping dying people, CurtSibling?
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They tend to bleed on you.

;)

Seriously, though,
Would you want to be treated as the prime suspect for the crime?

Because that is what you would become,
if the filth couldn't catch the guy that had done it.
 
Originally posted by boann
its not your problem untill its you laying on the ground
is it?
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I don't live in a lifestyle where I am likely to be shot.
 
Originally posted by napoleon526
Does DC have any "Good Samaritan" laws that several NE states have been experimenting with?
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In that manditory form there are rare in the USA. More commonly "Good Samaritan laws" refer to those inmunizing persons helping in an ermergency from civil liabily when they screw up.
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling


They tend to bleed on you.

;)

Seriously, though,
Would you want to be treated as the prime suspect for the crime?

Because that is what you would become,
if the filth couldn't catch the guy that had done it.
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you're making fun of a bad issue. There was a video that clearly showed the man who did nothing DID NOT kill the dying man. Therefore, if the man would have tried to save the dying one, it wouldve showed he was a hero on the tape. Stop acting like a greedy guy.
 
I sont think you should be able to punish someone for going about their daily rotines regardless of environment or the situation others are in.

People have the right to be jerks.(Maybe not in Civfanatics..)

Of course their is always the fear of consequences of aiding someone. Being a witness is never appealing to some people.
Many people refuse CPR because of personal risk to themselves. Bleeding victims may have aids. That person may be the guy who just got shot robbing a liquer store why help him. Touch that man without consent you could be later charged with assault.

You could call 911 but most will assume someone else will.
Not my problem.
 
That whole issue of people being able to sue if a person trying to help them screws up has I think done irreperable damage to the whole concept of a good samaritan. Obviously most people would help anyway but how in the name of all that is good can any court allow people to take action against a person who was just trying to help a stranger! And what kind of ******* would even think of trying to sue?!

Heres a nice example for you, my g/f's father was in the St Johns ambulance brigade, volunteer medics for those who havnt heard of them. One day he was driving along and saw a car crash, so he pulls over and provides urgent medical assistance to the driver and passengers. The driver had a big hole in his stomach and he ripped the guys shirt so he had something to stop the bleeding with. At hospital they told the guy he would have died if my future father-in-law hadnt been there to help him. When he came to the hospital to see if the guy was ok, this prick starts shouting at him about how it was an expensive shirt and he's gonna press charges if he doesnt pay for it. Any wonder people dont want to get involves these days?

Kentonio
 
Originally posted by DarkerMotives
I sont think you should be able to punish someone for going about their daily rotines regardless of environment or the situation others are in.

People have the right to be jerks.(Maybe not in Civfanatics..)

Of course their is always the fear of consequences of aiding someone. Being a witness is never appealing to some people.
Many people refuse CPR because of personal risk to themselves. Bleeding victims may have aids. That person may be the guy who just got shot robbing a liquer store why help him. Touch that man without consent you could be later charged with assault.

You could call 911 but most will assume someone else will.
Not my problem.
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Other reasons:

(1) If I hang about and try to help; maybe the gang who
shot him; will think I am one of his gang and shoot me too.

(2) If I hang about and his gang members show up;
they may assume I shot him and shoot me in revenge.

(3) I am not a doctor and might get sued.

(4) I didn't see who shot him so I am not a witness.

(5) If I become a witness; the gang leader will eliminate me.


The fact is that if you are not a medic, not a policeman,
not the owner of the gas station; there are a number of
very good reasons; both emotional and rational,
not to get involved.

And where would he ring 911 from; I thought
you are not supposed to use mobiles at gas
stations because they might spark the gas vapour.
 
Originally posted by china444


you're making fun of a bad issue. There was a video that clearly showed the man who did nothing DID NOT kill the dying man. Therefore, if the man would have tried to save the dying one, it wouldve showed he was a hero on the tape. Stop acting like a greedy guy.
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Actually only my first sentence was a joke.

If you have had any experience with the fuzz, then you would be loathe to get involved too.

I have walked by many sprawled junkies, etc in the street, and they could be dead for all I know.

Am I meant to be some sort of Mother Theresa, who stops and helps every lowlife I see?
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling

Am I meant to be some sort of Mother Theresa, who stops and helps every lowlife I see?
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There is a large difference between seeing someone coked out and seeing someone shot right next to you.
 
Glasgow at night is no picnic.
I am talking of bloodied junkies who have been stabbed, etc.

You do actually get fatal crimes outside of NYC, you know.
 
I blame the 'Candid Camera' type of TV programme for a lot of this sort of thing.

I bet the guy who drove off was thinking "Oh no, I'm not going to make a fool of myself for some dumb TV show, there's no way that the guy has really been shot, it's just a setup."
 
I can understand the reaction of fleeing the area of a shooting for personal safety reasons, but to carry on with routine is despicable. Most likely, he has something to hide, as Lefty and Joespaniel point out.

I've only heard of very rural places like Vermont having laws where you are required to help someone on the side of the road.
 
Tsk!

Just because someone does not adhere to your set of values, he is judged to be 'up to no good'.

That is, in my view, despicable.

If the guy does not want to help some punctured hoodlum, that is his perogative.
 
The best thing to do is drive away normally, then go straight to the nearest phone and call 911.
 
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