Man Caught on Video Not Helping Fatally Shot Man

@Echo Head, is that right, what you said about not pulling over for a car that's broken down on the side of the road? I don't think i've ever driven past a broken down car without stopping. I think we live in very different worlds...

As for the bloke who drove off, there could be many reasons why he didn't offer any assistance. I reckon i would've at least called the snorks, but i have the luxury of making that decision while sitting at my computer in my livingroom.
 
Yeah, that's because in Western Australia ye know the other 5 people with motor cars, and don't talk to the other two residents anyway. :p :D
 
I am surprised, but not convinced at the goody-two-shoes attitude many of you have taken on.

I bet if it was an Iraqi or a peace protestor lying there, bleeding to death, You would hurry on by.

Amazing how people become self-righteous when required.

Me? I am just honest.

It's not my problem.
 
Well, one is being honest Curt. It is my opinion that not caring in such a fashion is the first step towards the other case, where 38 people ignored a screaming woman being raped and murdered, because they didn't want to get involved, and it wasn't their business.

No matter who it was, I would render assistance. If they later turned out to be naughty, then I would do what needed to be done once they have recovered. 'Tis a Shannowist attitude, and one I hold to.
I would like someone else to look after me in such a situation; it is simply a matter of doing unto others what you would have them do unto you. And if necessary, doing it harder, more often and better.
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
I am surprised, but not convinced at the goody-two-shoes attitude many of you have taken on.

I bet if it was an Iraqi or a peace protestor lying there, bleeding to death, You would hurry on by.

Amazing how people become self-righteous when required.

Me? I am just honest.

It's not my problem.
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Will be your problem if I ever get my hands on you :mad:


If you don't have time or the inclination to reduce human suffering when given an opportunity to do so then you are in my eyes not worth the air in your lungs you use to brezth with.

Pathetic.


I would do whatever I could to help in such a situation, in the same way I'd go to help anyone who is in distress or whom a crime is being committed. If everyone stood back and cleaned their hands of such matters the world would be a far more dangerous place.


As for this remarkably idiotic tie-in of peace protestors/Iraq with the incident and whether you'd go to someones aid there is a vast difference!

Iraq is not the worst regime in the world and to remove it will in all likelihood kill alot of INNOCENT people. The justification needs to be given to justify the killing of these innocent people and so far while there is a case it isn't compelling (and I am in favour of toppelling Saddam). It is a lie to think that Saddam presents a great threat to the Western Democracies, only by our belligerency do we provoke it. The case is entirely whether mpre people with have reduced suffering if we go in rather than maintain the stuid (daft sanctions) status quo.

We should have concluded the matter at the end of the last Gulf War either removing Saddam or at least not emplacing sanctions that harm his people and don't really increase our security.
 
Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
Will be your problem if I ever get my hands on you :mad:
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Save it for the school yard, son.

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
If you don't have time or the inclination to reduce human suffering when given an opportunity to do so then you are in my eyes not worth the air in your lungs you use to brezth with.

Pathetic.
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Thank you! I can assure you, the feeling is mutual. :)

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos

I would do whatever I could to help in such a situation, in the same way I'd go to help anyone who is in distress or whom a crime is being committed. If everyone stood back and cleaned their hands of such matters the world would be a far more dangerous place.
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If people minded their business the world would be a less dangerous place.

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
As for this remarkably idiotic tie-in of peace protestors/Iraq with the incident and whether you'd go to someones aid there is a vast difference!
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Thanks for the insult.
I think you have much to learn about human nature.
I see people ignoring suffereing on a daily basis, why pick me out as a villian?

Originally posted by kittenOFchaos
Iraq is not the worst regime in the world and to remove it will in all likelihood kill alot of INNOCENT people. The justification needs to be given to justify the killing of these innocent people and so far while there is a case it isn't compelling (and I am in favour of toppelling Saddam). It is a lie to think that Saddam presents a great threat to the Western Democracies, only by our belligerency do we provoke it. The case is entirely whether mpre people with have reduced suffering if we go in rather than maintain the stuid (daft sanctions) status quo.

We should have concluded the matter at the end of the last Gulf War either removing Saddam or at least not emplacing sanctions that harm his people and don't really increase our security.
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And you are telling me this for what reason?
Millions of people have been and will ignore the suffering in Iraq.

What have you done to help starving children today, oh high-and-mighty Mr Kitten?

I can say without fear of contradiction that during the upcoming war on Iraq,
YOU ALL will sit and watch not just one man at a gas station,
but many thousands of people die in a most horrendous manner.

So my good Mr Kitten, don't ever accuse me of being uncaring!
You, and the majority of the western world are quite happily going to gloat and watch the biggest massacre since 1991 happen on live TV.

And no doubt not just walk by, but scoff and laugh.

I know for a fact that some of our friends here on CFC will be ENJOYING seeing Iraqis fry.

I guess it all depends on how many double standards you really have, eh?
 
OK, to stop the tears pouring down certain poster's faces,
I would say that I might help, if I would be sure that:

1. Would not be shot next.
2. Under no circumstances be blamed for it.
3. Not have to accompany the fuzz and answer questions.
4. If the guy looked like he was not a junkie hoodlum and was not going to knife me or something.
5. Would not be required to give the guy any sort of blood transfusion.

I could only help if there was something I could actually do.
If he is dead anyway, what is the point?

PS
I would say that in the case of family, I would help.
Blood is thicker than water, but I would expect something back in return.

:)
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
1. Would not be shot next.
2. Under no circumstances be blamed for it.
3. Not have to accompany the fuzz and answer questions.
4. If the guy looked like he was not a junkie hoodlum and was not going to knife me or something.
5. Would not be required to give the guy any sort of blood transfusion.
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The guy would probably bleed to death while you were making your decision...
 
Not so.

My decision-making skills have been honed by years of Civ playing.
 
Only option 1 has the possibily to take awhile to judge. The rest could be answered pretty quickly... Like with 2: ooo look I'm at a petrol station with cameras so the Police will be able to watch them and see that I didn't do anything but help. Obviously this is if you are capable of thinking clearly.
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
Not so.

My decision-making skills have been honed by years of Civ playing.
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:lol: Ha! Good point. Either way, I don't think it requires much decision at all to just drive away and call someone...or at least mention to the attendent! After all, he went and paid the attendent, why not just mention that there is a guy bleeding???

:o
 
I can say without fear of contradiction that during the upcoming war on Iraq, YOU ALL will sit and watch not just one man at a gas station, but many thousands of people die in a most horrendous manner.

So my good Mr Kitten, don't ever accuse me of being uncaring!
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Why what are you doing as regarding the war in Iraq apart from attempted sarcasm and sitting bone idle to make you not the uncaring brat your language illustrates your position to be. Indeed if were even against the 1991 War (don't think that I would have conducted the matter in the same way) then how would you have dealt with Iraq without getting your hair messed up?


As for what I do to make the world a better place?

I give money and time to charity. I work for "Victim Support" and do what I can to help victims of crime. I go round to my neighbours houses should their alarms go off and I have never sat back and watched a fight without intervening to break it up since I've reached adulthood.


Your assertion that the world would be a better place if people minded there own business...you can get that any time of the week, go to London. If you ask me for MY contribution to society (and I answered in part) lets hear YOURS.

I think an expression that is apt in defence of my position and against your cowardly stance of "mind your own business" is:

All It Takes for Evil to Triumph is for Good Men to Do Nothing



You also asked why I picked you out for a bashing? Because of that ugly avatar you have ;)
 
@Simon Darkshade
Why did you think i live in Western Aust? No bloody way! As for the remark about us only having about 5 cars... well, your probably right!

End of the day, i don't think many of us here would help the bloke if there was the slightest possibility we could be next. By all means, stay on your soapbox, but realistically, we all know what we would and wouldn't do
 
Originally posted by anarchywrksbest


But if HE had been the man lying on the ground bleeding to death then I think he would have expected a passer by to help him.

I think some guy, probably Irish, said something abut Doing onto others as you would have the do onto you.....
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Was it the Rev I M Jolly....?
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
Tsk!

Just because someone does not adhere to your set of values, he is judged to be 'up to no good'.

That is, in my view, despicable.

If the guy does not want to help some punctured hoodlum, that is his perogative.
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Wow, are you a friend with this guy who did nothing or what?
My god, have a little compassion for the shot man.
What if it was just a random shooting, and the guy had a wife and kids?
I would help; because i apparently care for my fellow humans.
 
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