Military Aggression and the United States (split from Random Thoughts 2)

[Commodore]

Freedom is letting your children die at gunpoint to trigger the libs.

What does it say about the "libs" if they are willing to hold children at gunpoint to get their way?

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

It's a hypothetical simply designed to show that "under duress" absolutely can and does happen, and you haven't answered it yet!

 

[Traitorfish]

What does it say about the "libs" if they are willing to hold children at gunpoint to get their way?

I mean your government is literally keeping children in prison camps. That is a thing which is actually happening, for real, in the real world.

 

[sophie]

I mean your government is literally keeping children in prison camps. That is a thing which is actually happening, for real, in the real world.

And the administration explicitly said they were doing so to get Democrats to fund the wall.

 

[Lexicus]

What does it say about the "libs" if they are willing to hold children at gunpoint to get their way?

Come, Commodore, you're significantly smarter than this and we all know it.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I never did like the "under duress" argument. I've always held that no one can truly force anyone else to do anything and that as long as you are willing to accept the consequences, you are free to do anything you want in this world.

All hail Commodore. Every rape/other forms of sexual assault victims should immediately stop fighting for justice and just take full responsibility for what happened to them. After all, nothing can happen under duress, so they must have wanted it, right?

Including your own female family members, if they should ever be placed in this situation.

 

[red_elk]

Well, if a person is being threatened with consequences he or she cannot accept, that's a definition of being under duress...

 

[Takhisis]

I think Commodore's position on this is closer to ‘to the victor the spoils’, ‘væ victis’ and ‘might makes right’.

 

[Ajidica]

I think Commodore's position on this is closer to ‘to the victor the spoils’, ‘væ victis’ and ‘might makes right’.

A modern-day Conan.

 

[Zkribbler]

Nuts, you spent the entire nineteenth century picking on Native tribes and sad little Latin republics, while the Europeans gobbled up three-quarters of the Earths surface. When you eventually worked up the nerve to go up against one of them, it was Spain.

Spain.

Oops, you forgot about our first declared war: against the Tunisian pirates to whom England and France paid tribute.
And our war against the almighty British Empire in the War of 1812. We won.
We whumped Mexico without losing a battle.

 

[Takhisis]

Oops, you forgot about our first declared war: against the Tunisian pirates to whom England and France paid tribute.

The first country ever to recognise the U.S. of A. is a pirate/robber state!

And our war against the almighty British Empire in the War of 1812. We won.

The Canadians burned the White House.

We whumped Mexico without losing a battle.

You did gain Texas, though.

 

[r16]

I mean, I'm just spitballing here. How many times has Canada been invaded since the War of 1812?

3 times by Washington's Irish proxies ? Which were finally utterly routed , too ?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

The Canadians burned the White House.

No, we did not.

Canada didn't even exist at that time.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Was it already white, or was painted white after the burning to hide all that shameful smut?

 

[Valka D'Ur]

It was whitewashed after it was burned, hence the term "whitewashing" in the context of "cover up". It wasn't originally white.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

No. The military protects the population just by existing. Why is it the mainland of the US hasn't been invaded since the War of 1812? I'll give you a hint: It's not the diplomats or our economy that make our enemies afraid to invade. It's the knowledge that if they invade us, not only will we beat them here, but we'll make sure they don't have a homeland to retreat to.

And this is true of every nation's military to some extent.

Yes, I am sure Switzerlands military is what kept it safe for hundreds of year. Great thinking there.

 

[red_elk]

Actually, Switzerland used to have quite formidable army until recently - enough to make trying to attack them unworthy the trouble.
Neutrality itself won't make you safe, it must be backed with something.

 

[Lexicus]

And our war against the almighty British Empire in the War of 1812. We won.

No we didn't, we got our capital burnt down.

We whumped Mexico without losing a battle.

What an achievement 10 points

It was whitewashed after it was burned, hence the term "whitewashing" in the context of "cover up". It wasn't originally white.

Actually, it was originally built out of sandstone painted white, according to Wikipedia:

The residence was designed by Irish-born architect James Hoban[2] in the neoclassical style. Construction took place between 1792 and 1800 using Aquia Creek sandstone painted white.

"Whitewashing" definitely did not originate from painting the White House. According to Google:
"Figurative sense of "to cover up, conceal" is attested from 1762."
Literal whitewashing dates back even further to the 16th century.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/whitewash (source)

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Yes, I am sure Switzerlands military is what kept it safe for hundreds of year. Great thinking there.

The mere existence Liechtenstein's military was so successful in protecting that country that it has continued to protect them for 150 years after being completely disbanded. In all that time they have only been attacked twice, by accident, by the Swiss, who promptly apologized and settled things over some wine.

Actually, Switzerland used to have quite formidable army until recently - enough to make trying to attack them unworthy the trouble.
Neutrality itself won't make you safe, it must be backed with something.

The Swiss have a powerful militia, made up of citizens who are required to train like reservists and who keep weapons locked up in their home. It is the kind of defense that the founders of the USA wanted for us, especially those founders who opposed having a standing army. It is not the kind of military that can be ordered overseas to project force at the whim of politicians with imperial aspirations.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

The mere existence Liechtenstein's military was so successful in protecting that country that it has continued to protect them for 150 years after being completely disbanded.

I read the first page now. Seems like we had the same idea. Great minds think alike