You know the idea I had today? Don't tear down statues, put up a statue--exact same scale, exact same sculptural style--right behind any statue of a Confederate general, of a slave-owner whipping a slave. Just have what that general was riding off to fight for right in the same visual field. Then revere the guy as appropriate.
Stop, you. It's not a dialect. There's no group of people who talk the way you post. It's not even an idiolect. Not even you talk the way you post. It's a posting style. You take your initial sentiment and ellipticize it, then metaphorate it, then obliquiify it. (Not entirely certain about the order of those three.) The result is maddeningly inimitable (to someone who wants to believe he can imitate any writing style, who's written creditable Shakespearean blank verse and (harder yet) creditable Miltonic blank verse). But I've been studying, and I'm comin' for you, 'Boy. This April Fools Day . . .
I get that you and Gori have a thing for romaticizing our differences in dialect, but between you and Lex taking my arguments as in favor of Forrest's redemption is really really pissing me off.
Except that prior to the Civil War, the South controlled national economic policy, to the extent that there even was such a thing (arguably this was an invention of the Republicans as they used the freedom afforded them by the South's secession to engineer the US's transformation into an industrial society).
The north didn't want the south doing so much busjness with Europe so they increased taxes, thats kinda why a Europe that banned slavery still sided with the south.
Lincoln's win on a protectionist platform, the south knew tariffs were going up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Tariff
The north didn't want the south doing so much busjness with Europe so they increased taxes, thats kinda why a Europe that banned slavery still sided with the south.
Do you even READ your own LINKS ?
My Brain hurts from the Gas lighting
adopted on March 2, 1861, during the administration of President James Buchanan, a Democrat,
passage of the tariff was possible because many tariff-averse Southerners had resigned from Congress after their states declared their secession
Its supporters included Democrats, Republicans, and Americans
passed during Abraham Lincoln's administration to raise urgently needed revenue during the Civil War.
Protectionism was on the rise in the late 50s and with Lincoln's win on a protectionist platform, the south knew tariffs were going up.
How does my link contradict that?
The north didn't want the south doing so much busjness with Europe so they increased taxes, thats kinda why a Europe that banned slavery still sided with the south.
Q1: Why dose the Wiki say the tariffs only passed because the southners all resigned from congress then ?
Q2: Why dose the Wiki say the tariffs was because Linlcon needs taxes to pay for the civil war ?
Q3: Why did the Confederate raise Tarriffs after seceeding then ?
You didn't answer my question, how does my link contradict what I said?
Q1 wiki says Lincoln ran on a protectionist platform, the south already knew he planned to push for increasing the tariffs and they couldn't continue blocking it in the senate
Q2 Lincoln wanted to raise the tariffs before the south seceded
You didn't answer my question, how does my link contradict what I said?
Q1 wiki says Lincoln ran on a protectionist platform, the south already knew he planned to push for increasing the tariffs and they couldn't continue blocking it in the senate
Q2 Lincoln wanted to raise the tariffs before the south seceded
You didn't read the link?
So even though Democrats controlled the Presidency and the Senate, but they seceeded because Lincoln wanted to raise tariffs
Then the Confederacy proceeded to raise Tarrifs (and also set fire to their own cotton) .......
I think I know why the south lost.
The Irony is the South didnt raise enough Tarrifs and taxes, thus there paper money become worthless.
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So even though Democrats controlled the Presidency and the Senate, but they seceeded because Lincoln wanted to raise tariffs
Then the Confederacy proceeded to raise Tarrifs (and also set fire to their own cotton) .......
I think I know why the south lost.
The Irony is the South didnt raise enough Tarrifs and taxes, thus there paper money become worthless.
Buchanan was a northern Democrat who supported the tariffs and both sides used them to raise revenue. The south's objection was explained in the wiki article, the north used tariffs to favor northern interests at the expense of the south.
Buchanan was a northern Democrat who supported the tariffs and both sides used them to raise revenue. The south's objection was explained in the wiki article, the north used tariffs to favor northern interests at the expense of the south.
Which doesn't change the fact that the South had the balance of political power in the US government from the end of the Revolution until the start of the Civil War. The fact that they didn't get 100% of what they wanted didn't change the fact that they got 90% of it.
Which doesn't change the fact that the South had the balance of political power in the US government from the end of the Revolution until the start of the Civil War. The fact that they didn't get 100% of what they wanted didn't change the fact that they got 90% of it.
Millions left the country over tariffs. They were used terribly and we called it the Gilded Age. But that was just a portion of our victory, our might. Other parts were better, other parts were worse. But the victors were predictable. I suppose I should be thankful for the library, we're still using it.
This is just completely false. The South controlled the federal government through the Senate and the electoral college which gave a massive advantage in Presidential elections to the slave states through the 3/5 compromise. I would recommend some education: try reading This Vast Southern Empire, which does a magnificent job of demonstrating how the South pretty much entirely controlled the Federal government until the election of Abraham Lincoln.
Balance of power wasn't good enough for them. They weren't willing to live with 'win some, lose some'. They insisted on 'win every single thing every single time.'
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