[mod] Warlords: Total Realism 2.3a

[Anaztazioch]

Holy crap i am speach-less!!!
I wonder if i can ask you for some help in how to install more units in you great Mod TR.
Spoken like a true gentlemen

There are manual "all over" the cfc. Sorry, but i cant give you links at this time.

 

[Anaztazioch]

That sounds like tough luck, probably not something to modify the system about. You want to be able to take on two large empires surrounding you ? That would be completely unrealistic. But in such a situation there are some tactics you can use. Use whatever airpower you have to perform strafing runs on the enemy stack to weaken them as themapproach your cities. when they are just outside a city, sacrifice whatever artillery you got to further weaken their stack. Just use collateral damage units at first. Then once you used them all up, if you have units to spare start picking off their guys or just let your defenders take care of them. If they still overwhelm you then it just wasn't mean to be... start a new game- this one is lost!

He can allways switch to slavary and make a slavary rebeliont hat will kill of enemy stacks Works for me

 

[xbeanerx]

I have never played ViSa and was with TR since The Third Ressurection. Played FFH II ocasionally.

If you prefer ViSa addons more than TR, than TR.
If you prefer ViSa stability (MAF?) more than TR, than TR.


I like TR most, as Im working on it, to make it better for me and comunity.

And as Walter said, its more about weather you are a fan of ViSa or TR, you agree or disagree with me, so i find this question meaningless.

My Conclusion i finish playing Rise of Man ,viSa and TR and hands down TR is a Better Mod I mean WOW what a masterpiece you people out did your self.
I am very impressed with the way this work of art has been put together any civ4 fan will love this Mod this is the way a game should be develope.
I reasonly Played Rise of Man kind, viSa and the last Mod to play was TR
i payed very close attencion to detail,graphic and movement this mod is moved so smooth and fast at the same time i notice that the movements are diffrent than those of the original game the graphics are better and it has its own original content this Mod should be Nominated for Mod of the year.
I also played fall from heaven II is a good mod but i already have World of Warcraft with all its expasion packs i rather play that game instead of that Mod.
TR offers just that TOTAL REALSIM IS a Masterpiece Not to be missed this is the kind of Mod that makes you feel sorry for dumb asses that do Not play video games

P.S does TR have a website where i can Donate some cash via Paypal you guys deserve it."Great Mod" Outstanding.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

P.S does TR have a website where i can Donate some cash via Paypal you guys deserve it."Great Mod" Outstanding.

We're STRICTLY non-commercial.
Although, if any of the teammembers ever gets near the place where you live, we accept beer.

 

[xbeanerx]

We're STRICTLY non-commercial.
Although, if any of the teammembers ever gets near the place where you live, we accept beer.

well if you ever come to Los Angeles california look me up i now all the hot Spots in Hollywood and all the best clubs
hey are you really a Russian? so what is your tale on communist Stalin and or Russia?

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

hey are you really a Russian? so what is your tale on communist Stalin and or Russia?

I am. Yet this is not the most appropriate place to discuss such stuff - if you like, you could register at our forum (http://civ4.houmie.com/forum/) - there you could post suggestions, feedback, even OT stuff (in the appropriate subforum, of course).

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

What turns me off to this mod is that one of the designers called religion a "plague". The No Religion civic is almost treated as an upgrade from religion in game strategy entry wise(Reason and intellect rule the day etc etc Making the ignorant and very prejudice assumpsion that reason and intellect cannot exist with religion), and the theory of evolution strategy entry basically calls people who don't agree with it retards.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

What turns me off to this mod is that one of the designers called religion a "plague". The No Religion civic is almost treated as an upgrade from religion in game strategy entry wise(Reason and intellect rule the day etc etc Making the ignorant and very prejudice assumpsion that reason and intellect cannot exist with religion), and the theory of evolution strategy entry basically calls people who don't agree with it retards.

We're trying to balance stuff, religions included. State Atheism is good only if you don't run your own religion and if you don't have many cities with more than one religion. Otherwise, it more or less sucks (lost Holy City income and happiness bonus outweigh the gains). Strategy entry reflects the beliefs of the people running State Atheism, not our own position - that would be Voltaire you're arguing with, not us. "Age of Reason" they used to call it.

As far as Theory of Evolution is concerned I can congradulate you as one of the few who actually reads strategy entries. Once again, this one reflects the views of the late XIX-century scientific enthusiasm.

Still, you're entirely entitled to your opinion - it is just if you're asking for official TR team position on the matter, it is that we don't seek to promote any religious or anti-religious sentiments. Our mod is provided for entertainment purposes only.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Good it just seemed as though there was an undercurrent of anti-religious sentiment, thanks for clarifying Walter.

Another thing I wanted to ask you about is when you make the move to BTS there is a unique flavor system in place and a modular system. Do you intend on taking advantage of both in the near future?

 

[vorius]

I am not sure I remember seeing this in the vanilla Civ4, but is cheating AI a part of this mod?

What I am noticing is that the AI is getting full visibility of the map. One example is I left my capitol city undefended as I had my warrior unit scout around (This was near the very beginning of a new game). An AI unit walked up to my border and from it's vantage point could not see my city because my border grew and there was a hill blocking. Anyway, he knew my city was undefended, declared war and that was that.

Then there are numerous times I have a ship out at sea and I notice the AI make a bee-line to my more vulnerable ships like transports or damaged ships.

Again, this could be just regular Civ4 code that I never noticed before...

 

[Hian the Frog]

What turns me off to this mod is that one of the designers called religion a "plague".

Yes. True. That's me.

I will try to explain to you what i want to say by "plague". It won't be easy in english, maybe in french ?

When i use this word, i want to explain to all that among the three major causes of massive death in our history you can find the Religions, and all that come with: intolerance, wars,... Just look at the European history: the Crusades, the Albigensian Crusade, the Reconquista, The Hussite Revolt, the English Civil War, the French Wars of Religion,..., and to finish the bloodiest: the Thirty years War. Look at also the actual world and some fundamentalists, whatever is their religion....or atheism.

Religions, as Pandemia and Slavery, are "plagues" because they are the reason of massive attacks (and death). That's what i want to explain. Even now, i'm not really able to explain what i want to say. English isn't my first language.

If i hurt you, i'm sorry. That's wasn't wrote to hurt people. It's not a personnal opinion. As Walter said our goal is to try to represent the evolution of the world - religion and atheism included.

I hope you understand what i want to say.

Hian the Frog.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Another thing I wanted to ask you about is when you make the move to BTS there is a unique flavor system in place and a modular system. Do you intend on taking advantage of both in the near future?

We'll decide in process. There's no telling yet.

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Yes. True. That's me.

I will try to explain to you what i want to say by "plague". It won't be easy in english, maybe in french ?

When i use this word, i want to explain to all that among the three major causes of massive death in our history you can find the Religions, and all that come with: intolerance, wars,... Just look at the European history: the Crusades, the Albigensian Crusade, the Reconquista, The Hussite Revolt, the English Civil War, the French Wars of Religion,..., and to finish the bloodiest: the Thirty years War. Look at also the actual world and some fundamentalists, whatever is their religion....or atheism.

Religions, as Pandemia and Slavery, are "plagues" because they are the reason of massive attacks (and death). That's what i want to explain. Even now, i'm not really able to explain what i want to say. English isn't my first language.

If i hurt you, i'm sorry. That's wasn't wrote to hurt people. It's not a personnal opinion. As Walter said our goal is to try to represent the evolution of the world - religion and atheism included.

I hope you understand what i want to say.

Hian the Frog.

Yes I understand. Your correct as well that atheism is also a faith, and that it was also responsible for deaths(French revulution, Communism in Russia, China etc). Its good everything is clear now on this mod..

 

[Hian the Frog]

Yes I understand. Your correct as well that atheism is also a faith, and that it was also responsible for deaths(French revulution, Communism in Russia, China etc). Its good everything is clear now on this mod..

Yeah. True. So, everything is clear. I prefer that.
And you also forget Cambodia.......

Hian the Frog.

 

[Lacaixa]

Managed to press on to the year 2300 on my World Map game . Running very well on Vista 32 with the MAF fix. No MAF problems at all now. Still engaged in a war of attrition with China but gradually gaining the upper hand.
With a constant tech level of 60-70% I've just start researching nitroglycerene. Still gettingthe occasional screen freeze after a few hours play though.

 

[THARN]

Hello Gents- just stopped into to see when you were moving to BTS- Not a bad thing, but Total realism was the reason I never purchased Warlords..It made vanilla civ 4 that good!
But alas, I couldn't pass up BTS since it includes the changes that were made in Warlords plus adds even more..
Can't wait for TR on BTS!
Best mod ever!

by the way- do any of you play online at all?
I have yet to do this.

 

[Eleazar]

Yes. True. That's me.

I will try to explain to you what i want to say by "plague". It won't be easy in english, maybe in french ?

When i use this word, i want to explain to all that among the three major causes of massive death in our history you can find the Religions, and all that come with: intolerance, wars,... Just look at the European history: the Crusades, the Albigensian Crusade, the Reconquista, The Hussite Revolt, the English Civil War, the French Wars of Religion,..., and to finish the bloodiest: the Thirty years War. Look at also the actual world and some fundamentalists, whatever is their religion....or atheism.

Religions, as Pandemia and Slavery, are "plagues" because they are the reason of massive attacks (and death). That's what i want to explain. Even now, i'm not really able to explain what i want to say. English isn't my first language.

If i hurt you, i'm sorry. That's wasn't wrote to hurt people. It's not a personnal opinion. As Walter said our goal is to try to represent the evolution of the world - religion and atheism included.

I hope you understand what i want to say.

Hian the Frog.

I think you are forgetting the "Bloodless Revolution" of England, largely influenced by the Reformation. You of all people should be very well aware of the French Revolution influenced by the Enlightenment, which took roots from humanistic ideas. In France you have the antithesis of of the Reformation and it results in a blood bath culminating into the Reign of Terror. Then you also have the Russian Revolution which was influenced by the French Revolution and took roots from the very same humanistic philosophies. We have very much to thank Machiavelli and others for laying the groundwork for these events. "The Prince" ends up being a handbook for Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. All of these are so called harmless non-religious ideas. Who can forget what the secular philosophy communism has brought us. It has very much plagued and oppressed mankind. We actually have Charles Darwin to thank for the ideas of superior race. He help lay the groundwork for the ideas that would become the Aryan supremacists. Now, obviously we know it was never his intention that his ideas be used in this manner, however we can say the same for religions as well.

The problem is not that religion is plaguing man. It is that man is plaguing man, and using religion to TRY and justify his actions. On analysis of these religions values, morals, and ideals we see very quickly that the actions taken by the aggressors are not justified and unfounded in any religion at all. Rather, they stem from man's jealously, sense of entitlement, pretentiousness, arrogance, and outright hatred for his fellow man. These were not introduced by religion into man, but forcefully introduced into religion by man. If it wasn't religion it would be something else. Man does not need religion to start a war, nor to justify it. He will use any tool he has a means to use, even it be sacred and precious.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

by the way- do any of you play online at all?
I have yet to do this.

We didn't test online multiplayer capabilities of TR - frankly, it can be anything from "runs flawlessly" to "crashes on the first turn". The only thing I can tell you is that hotseat works well.

 

[Hian the Frog]

I think you are forgetting the "Bloodless Revolution" of England, largely influenced by the Reformation. You of all people should be very well aware of the French Revolution influenced by the Enlightenment, which took roots from humanistic ideas. In France you have the antithesis of of the Reformation and it results in a blood bath culminating into the Reign of Terror. Then you also have the Russian Revolution which was influenced by the French Revolution and took roots from the very same humanistic philosophies. We have very much to thank Machiavelli and others for laying the groundwork for these events. "The Prince" ends up being a handbook for Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. All of these are so called harmless non-religious ideas. Who can forget what the secular philosophy communism has brought us. It has very much plagued and oppressed mankind. We actually have Charles Darwin to thank for the ideas of superior race. He help lay the groundwork for the ideas that would become the Aryan supremacists. Now, obviously we know it was never his intention that his ideas be used in this manner, however we can say the same for religions as well.

The problem is not that religion is plaguing man. It is that man is plaguing man, and using religion to TRY and justify his actions. On analysis of these religions values, morals, and ideals we see very quickly that the actions taken by the aggressors are not justified and unfounded in any religion at all. Rather, they stem from man's jealously, sense of entitlement, pretentiousness, arrogance, and outright hatred for his fellow man. These were not introduced by religion into man, but forcefully introduced into religion by man. If it wasn't religion it would be something else. Man does not need religion to start a war, nor to justify it. He will use any tool he has a means to use, even it be sacred and precious.

It's a good sum-up of what we tried to include in our mod.
All in all, religions (and atheism) are still a big problem in our actual world. Just have a look to the "fight" between Creationist and Darwinist, the Muslim, Christian,... fundamentists. I don't forget the "aggressive" atheist and their way of thinking.

Religions (and atheism), politics,... were/are/will still be subjects of trolling and attacks.

In our Team, our goal is ONLY to try to have the more realistic system. All can be discussed of course, but we will avoid as most as possible useless and discriminatory speaches.

I hope you like the mod.

Hian the Frog.

 

[Cruel]

The team TR is thinking about BTS a complete upgrade or in parts how Fall to Heavean2?