Might this just be being too specific with words? If it's not 'sanctity', what is it? And what changes would you make to imply sanctity?
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Might this just be being too specific with words? If it's not 'sanctity', what is it? And what changes would you make to imply sanctity?
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
To be, sacred means that which cannot be understood by our minds, that which we can only know part of. But definitions can vary, of course.
bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
Morality is attributed to god.
Man invented god,
Man is responsible for morality.
Man invented god,
Man is responsible for morality.
Lord Gay
Emperor
Aren't you or weren't you a Christian, Mac?
EDIT
My answer was flip. I was thinking of how, IIRC, knights and samurai were able to essentially kill commoners with relative impunity. I was thinking of the frequency of torture, and how I believe some/many reveled in the affliction of pain on others.
I think we care much more about lives and people's overall state than we did back then.
None of those was actually a thing, or at least, not to a greater degree than exists today.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
Morality is attributed to man.
Man came from prehistoric invertebrates,
Prehistoric invertibrates are responsible for morality.
bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
It might be that prehistoric invertebrates were responsible for morality.
But they no longer exist, so they can hardly remain responsible.
(You might just as well ascribe morality to a mythical being
)If your world view ever becomes more complex than choosing the correct tense, do let me know.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Doesn't follow. Ancestry has no implications of responsibility.
Who says it's anything? Just because some people possess a woolly sentimentality about a certain cluster of chemical processes doesn't imply that those processes imply any objective properties that would provoke those sentiments, or even that the cluster is anything more than an abstraction.
No, it doesn't. It means something set apart, existing in an exceptional condition of reverence, or something which possess properties demanding of such reverence. You may hold life in the first "subjective" sanctity, but that's you're own business, and not what AdamGM was referring to. He clearly posed the alleged sanctity of life as an intrinsic property, and we have no reason to believe that this is the case.
Berzerker
Deity
do you mean the desire not to be killed or stolen from is fairly universal?
Berzerker
Deity
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
It might be that prehistoric invertebrates were responsible for morality.
But they no longer exist, so they can hardly remain responsible.
(You might just as well ascribe morality to a mythical being
If your world view ever becomes more complex than choosing the correct tense, do let me know.
I was just saying a lot of secular morality comes from instinct. It would be unfair to say that we just came up with something out of nowhere.
@Traitor: Of course I give it reverence. Reverence for human life and the well-being of the consciousness it creates is the basis of my morality.
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On the other hand, I won't bother to read this thread.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
Good to know.
bathsheba666
Fast 'n Bulbous
How can we tell ?
Lord Gay
Emperor
It's not sticky?
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What.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
You probably ought to have used an actual dictator there, then."morality is herd conformity" sounds like something a dictator would say.
Maybe Hipster Hitler, because Hipster Hitler seems pretty anti-herd conformity.
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