New Buildings Discussion

[Azurian]

I'm a bit on a break right now. There is one building left but I'm too lazy to start with it since it is only one. If I had more buildings I'd beginn to make them in 1-2 Weeks again. If you propose more buildings I'd be happy, and if you want to edit my files, go ahead, I'll tell you if I start working on them again.

I will edit the Insect Manipulation Lab tomorrow to have it require a Tech.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

100 MW to +1

---Buildings---

Downdraft Tower [Wonder]
Button/Icon: -
Req Tech: Megastructure Engeering
Req Buildings: Factory AND Power Lines AND Water Pumps
Req Resources: Steel Wares OR Titanium Wares
Req Terrain: Desert OR Dunes OR Salt Flats OR Scrub
Req City Size: 6
Cost: 81600
Req Power: Yes
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• Provides Power
• -50
• +6 (600 MW)
• +2
• +2 with Green Civic
• +2 Great People
• More Likely to Generate a Great Engineer

Notes: Compatibly different from the Solar Updraft tower in that it doesn't need glass, costs half as much to maintain, doesn't generate food and produces more power.

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Osmotic Power Plant
Button/Icon: -
Req Tech: Nanotechnology
Req Buildings: Factory AND Power Lines
Req Resources: Nanotubes
Req Terrain: Coast and River City
Req City Size: 6
Cost: 2450
Req Power: No
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• Provides Power
• -10
• +1 (~0.8 KWh/m³ Is that right?)

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Ocean Thermal Power Plant
Button/Icon: -
Req Tech: Marine Architecture
Req Buildings: Factory AND Power Lines
Req Resources: Nanotubes
Req Terrain: Ocean (Tropical)
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 4250
Req Power: No
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• Provides Power
• -5
• +1 (100 MW)
• +1 with Green Civic

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Jetstream Power Plant
Button/Icon: -
Req Tech: Superstrong Alloys
Req Buildings: Factory AND Power Lines
Req Resources: Nanotubes AND Superstrong Alloys
Req Terrain: -
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 6800
Req Power: No
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• Provides Power
• -5
• +3 (240 MW)
• +1 with Green Civic

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Thanks!

@Faustmouse

---Buildings---

Lava Rock Quarry
Button/Icon: -
Req Tech: Flint Knapping
Req Buildings: -
Req Resources: -
Req Terrain: Active Volcano OR Dormant Volcano in City Vicinity
Req City Size: -
Cost: 100
Req Power: No
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• Provides 1 Pumice Stone
• Provides 1 Obsidian
• +2
• +1
• +1

---Resouces---

Pumice Stone
Revaled: Flint Knapping
Enabled: Flint Knapping

Thanks!

Please still make these.

 

[SargontheGreat2]

Do we have a telegraph office or system?

 

[Hydromancerx]

Do we have a telegraph office or system?

We have a building called "Telephone System", but it comes at "Telegraph" tech. This was inherited from RoM/AND. I have though about a telegraph office but since it would basically go obsolete as soon as it was made I did not add it.

If we wanted such a think there would need to be like a "Telephone" tech so that they were separate.

 

[Faustmouse]

I have though about a telegraph office but since it would basically go obsolete as soon as it was made I did not add it.

But we have Typewriter / Diskettes And no CD's by the way... They also go obsolete pretty fast.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

Glad your back. Here are some more for you.

---Buildings---

Electronic Gaming League [National Wonder]
Button/Icon: Here
Req Tech: Computer Networks
Req Buildings: Computer Network
Req Resources: Video Games AND Computers
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 4650
Req Power: Yes
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• +1 in All Cities
• +2% in All Cities
• +2% in All Cities

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Holographic Gaming League [National Wonder]
Button/Icon: Here
Req Tech: Hologrpahics
Req Buildings: Holographic Networks
Req Resources: Video Games AND Holographic Projectors
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 15600
Req Power: Yes
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• +2 in All Cities
• +4% in All Cities
• +4% in All Cities

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Anima Gaming League [National Wonder]
Button/Icon: Here
Req Tech: Artificial Life
Req Buildings: Anima Studio
Req Resources: -
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 36300
Req Power: Yes
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• +4 in All Cities
• +8% in All Cities
• +8% in All Cities

---Resources---

Video Games
Revealed: Computers
Enabled: Computers

I will post more soon. Thanks!

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

---Buildings---

Electronic Security System
Button/Icon: ?
Req Tech: Fiber Optics
Req Buildings: Computer Networks AND Police Station
Req Resources: Computers
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 1750
Req Power: Yes
Replaced By: None
Obsolete Tech: -

• -6
• +6
• +5% Defense
• +10% Defense Against Espionage
• Helps Thwart Rival Spies
• -20 Crime

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I have to think on these more since MrAzure has a lot of good ideas but I want to fit them with the upgrade line too.

Lookout Post -> Sentry Post -> Town Watch -> Town Patrol -> Electronic Security System

We also have ...

- Ordinance (Neighborhood Watch)
- AI Surveillance (Req Technocracy Civic)

I want to somehow work them all together and stuff. I am open to ideas on how to make it all work. Note that MrAzure even made a Mass Surveillance tech and we also have Grid civic which is like the "Big Brother" civic.

 

[Faustmouse]

I recently read something about a giant project on the southern boarder of the USA to secure the border against illigal immigrants. It was a combination of fences, drones, motion detectors etc... I was wondering if this could work out as either a WW or a regular building unter closed boarders / skilled workers only Civic.

 

[Sparth]

NW. Similar projects are in Israel and in lesser scale in Ceuta.

 

[Faustmouse]

Thats the main problem with wonders I think:
Much of what is considered a wonder right now can easily be copied by other civs as well. Look at Las Vegas or Japan for example. There are copies of the Eiffel Tower, Leaning Tower of Pisa etc.
Cure of Cancer might be a HUGE success from our point of view, but in a few 100 years most people probably don't even KNOW what cancer IS.
The WOnders I suggested, Genome Encyclopedia and Protein Encyclopedia are both great achivements, but these datas are usually shared with the whole world via internet, so it's effects are actually not accurate.
More and more big projects and wonders and also techs are projects from more then just one civilization nowadays and we need to find a way how to simulate that. I already suggested research pacts which work like research in alliances (but only research).

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Which is in part why I keep going on about Great Wonders being really great when built but at a later date (technology) some National Wonders should be similar if weaker. Naturally if you have the Great version you can't build the National version nor should you need to.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

I have some new building inspired by the SimCity expansion. I watched Quill do a video about it today.

Shopping Drone Control Center
Button/Icon: ?
Req Tech: Automated Urbanization
Req Buildings: Control Center AND Hypermarket
Req Resources: Service Bot
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 5950
Req Power: Yes
Obsolete Tech: -

• +1
• +5
• +5
• -10 Air Pollution

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Delivery Drone Control Center
Button/Icon: ?
Req Tech: Automated Urbanization
Req Buildings: Control Center AND Modern Warhouse
Req Resources: Service Bot
Req City Size: 13
Cost: 5950
Req Power: Yes
Obsolete Tech: -

• +1
• +5
• +5
• -10 Air Pollution

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I will post more soon, but this is a good start. Some other stuff I want to get to are ...

- Megatowers
- Sky Bridges
- Ground Scrubbers

And some more stuff.

 

[strategyonly]

I was just looking at the icons at the top middle of the game espionage: etc) and is never first We need to get some wonders or something that give + 50 chance of emerge within cultural borders or receives more someplace to get that in there someplace, and also get some Great Spies, I am in TransHuman Era with one of my games and i have never had the chance to get a Great Spy yet, thats just not right??
1st place is always that stupid religious stuff So what do you'll think

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

There are three wonders in the classic era that boost spy production. I try and build them in the same city and if I do then I get a Great Spy or two.

 

[JamesBC]

Carved Masks could be used for a Wonder called Council of Pochtecas . There is also Aladdin (India) and Ninja Assassins.

 

[Faustmouse]

Ok I finished those buildings and upload them in a few Minutes.

1) I made Downdraft Tower a regular building, adjusted it's cost and removed the 2 GP points from it. Having it a wonder makes no sense at all, it's to weak and not that special. And I still think Updraft Tower should be a regular building too.

2) I'm not sure how to make the correct prereqs for the Osmotic Power PLant. It has now Coast OR River while it should have both. I could make it "River and Tropical Coast OR Coast OR polar coast" but a) this looks ugly and b) you don't need to build it AT the Coast, just have toe Coast in Vicinity, which is also odd. Any ideas?

 

[Hydromancerx]

I think you check off <bWater>1</bWater> and <bRiver>1</bRiver>. Because I think that's how the Fishing Traps work where its an OR and not an AND when both are checked.

 

[Faustmouse]

I think you check off <bWater>1</bWater> and <bRiver>1</bRiver>. Because I think that's how the Fishing Traps work where its an OR and not an AND when both are checked.

Yes, I know.
I'm wondering how to get AND to work^^

 

[Hydromancerx]

I don't think its possible. Like you said you could require the 3 types of coat terrains and <bRiver> but then the city would not need to be coastal. And if you checked off <bWater> too then it could just be coastal and not need a river.

 

[Faustmouse]

Could you make it the other way round and set "bWater" to 1 and "bRiver" to 0 and then have a tag for Feature (River) in Vicinity? I'm not sure if River is a feature.