pre-release info New Civ Game Guide: Majapahit

[Lord Lakely]

If it's Himiko, then she needs to be paired with Meiji Japan, and we won't get another civilization guide this week. That means the unrevealed leader isn't Himiko or Hawaiian, so he/she is probably unpaired with his/her original civilization, just like Amina and Machiavelli.

Eh. You can just throw in off-hand comment à la "you can pair Himiko with Majapahit in Exploration and then become Meiji Japan in the Modern Age" without revealing too much about Meiji.

Devs did the same thing with Augustus and Spain.

The argument against that is that Himiko's ability is centered around Endeavours, and we've still don't know how those work exactly. I expect a Shaun Short on Dip before we get the Himiko FL but that might drop in the next few days.

For all we know, the next FL is Amina with Songhai immediately after, like last week's the Pachacuti-Inca double-whammy.

 

[SeelingCat]

Majapahit Uniques!

• Negara (Ability) - "country, state, nation, polity" in Malay/Indonesian - used in official names for states in the region; related to Sanskrit nagara "city"
• Wayang (Civic) - ꦮꦪꦁ [Javanese] - a traditional form of puppet theatre from Java dating back to at least the 10th century
• Aliran Kepercayaan (Civic) - literally "flow of belief" in Indonesian - an umbrella term for the animistic or syncretistic religions of Indonesia
• Nusantara (Civic) - ꦤꦸꦱꦤ꧀ꦠꦫ [Javanese] - the Javanese term for the Malay Archipelago (i.e. maritime Southeast Asia), or modern-day Indonesia; literally "the other islands"
• Gamelan (Civic) - ꦒꦩꦼꦭꦤ꧀ [Javenese] - a traditional musical style of the Javanese, Sundanese, and Balinese people; most notably includes several types of metallophones
• Panji (Tradition) - ꦥꦚ꧀ꦗꦶ [Javanese] - literally "flag, banner"; a genre of Indonesian story centered on a legendary prince named Panji that has influenced many forms of Indonesian art
• Negarakertagama (Tradition) - an old Javanese eulogy to the 14th century Majapahit King Hayam Wuruk; an important source of understanding the Majapahit Empire's territory, culture, and politics
• Subak (Tradition) - A Balinese method of irrigation developed in the 9th century; communal in nature and incorporated terraces and temples into its design
• Pura (Quarter) - A Balinese temple or temple complex, usually composed of three distinct zones, and incorporating distinctive gates and towers
• Candi Bentar (Building) - A split gate built in the style of a candi, a Hindu or Buddhist temple of Indonesia; an integral feature of Balinese temple architecture
• Meru (Building) - the principal shrine of a Balinese temple, composed of a wooden pagoda-like structure; representative of Mount Meru in Hindu/Jain/Buddhist cosmology
• Pedanda (Civilian) - a Hindu priest or priestess; also a name for the Brahmin class in the Balinese caste system
• Cetbang (Military) - a type of cannon used by the Majapahit; Also known as a Bedil in Javanese; cannon technology was introduced to the archipelago during the Mongol invasions and was constantly iterated upon with both Western and Eastern influences for centuries

 

[The Fanatical]

There's been a small vocal minority on places like Youtube and Reddit complaining about the "lack of European Civs" in the base game.

We have come full circle. I'm a fan of European civilizations, but I prefer that the base game has a bigger variety of civilizations at launch than past titles in the series.

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

There's been a small vocal minority on places like Youtube and Reddit complaining about the "lack of European Civs" in the base game.

Are you sure that they’re not the Silent Majority and the commenters on CivFanatics aren’t the small, vocal minority?

 

[B0RDERL1NE]

This is correct! Once you increase the limit in the Modern Age, your inactive specialists will become active again.

To expand on this, Specialist Limit is on a per tile basis. If your limit is 2, that's 2 Specialists per tile. Once placed, they cannot be moved, and they stay there across Age Transition. They have a maintenance but also a base yield, and boost Building Adjacencies in that tile by 50%, per Specialist.

When you transition Ages, you lose all Building Adjacencies, and go down to the base yield of the Specialist. Overbuilding in those tiles with Buildings from the new Age will allow the Specialists to boost the new adjacencies

In the case of Majapahit, when your Specialist Limit is reduced on Transition, all the effects of those Specialists stop working. But the Specialists themselves that exceed the Limit are still on the tile, and their effects will be re-enabled when you increase your Limit again through normal means.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Haha, yes. But it's a boat holding Cetbangs rather than the Cetbangs themselves.

Cetbangs were a form of light cannon that could be fired from a crouched position or mounted as a swivel gun on a ship or a gun carriage.

Incidentally, it's good to finally see the Majapahit associated with gunpowder weapons.

I expected a naval unit anyways, so this is I guess the best of both worlds.

There's been a small vocal minority on places like Youtube and Reddit complaining about the "lack of European Civs" in the base game.

Tell them to wait for the Modern Age, where it's possible they might get 3 more.

 

[j51]

Are you sure that they’re not the Silent Majority and the commenters on CivFanatics aren’t the small, vocal minority?

Could be? It’s a tough balance with only 11 civs either way. I like the new variety of civs but I also miss say the Byzantines and the HRE (also the Aztecs and a shogunate lol).

 

[Guandao]

Any missing European Civs are probably being saved to sell DLC/Expansions later. If they did that with the non-European Civs, those DLCs wouldn't sell as well.

 

[Rac]

Majapahit Background Art

 

[Evolena]

Introducing a new Exploration Age civ, Majapahit!​

The https://civilization.2k.com/civ-vii/en-GB/game-guide/civilizations/ page links to the Norman instead of Majapahit (and still to Mongolia instead of Ming and Inca).

Strange that Majapahit are considered Economic when Specialists and Happiness are mostly an Expansionist thing?

Happiness is also a Diplomatic thing.

Are you sure that they’re not the Silent Majority and the commenters on CivFanatics aren’t the small, vocal minority?

I bet the Silent Majority just doesn't care.

 

[Lord Lakely]

Are you sure that they’re not the Silent Majority and the commenters on CivFanatics aren’t the small, vocal minority?

Those who care, will complain.

Those who do not, won't.

 

[Taizong4Civ7]

I bet the Silent Majority just doesn't care

Pretty sure the majority of people who own Civ 6 have never beat the game, based on Steam achievements, much less complain on Reddit.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Are you sure that they’re not the Silent Majority

If they're complaining, then they are ipso facto not silent.

 

[The Fanatical]

Pretty sure the majority of people who own Civ 6 have never beat the game, based on Steam achievements, much less complain on Reddit.

I have more than a thousand hours of play time, and the numbers I finished a campaign can be counted on the fingers of my hands.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Here's the Pura unique quarter. The Candi is the split gate in the back and the Meru is the one in the front.

 

[Nic@Melbourne]

Specialists are definitely back. Few Civs playing around them.

 

[moondog385]

There's been a small vocal minority on places like Youtube and Reddit complaining about the "lack of European Civs" in the base game.

Those people are always going to exist. If they had their way, the only non-European civs would be China, Japan, Egypt, the Aztecs, and India all led by men.

 

[Krajzen]

What a beautiful civilization with a neat design.

I hope at one point we gonna get second Indonesian civ with a different flavor, for example Islamic one (say Aceh or Mataram Sultanate), it's the third time we are getting Hindu-Buddhist Javanese empire (I was tempted to say "Majapahit" but to be fair kris swordmen and candi of civ5 Indonesia preceded Majapahit empire)

There's been a small vocal minority on places like Youtube and Reddit complaining about the "lack of European Civs" in the base game.

Just wait until you see Amina leader reveal and a certain breed of totally not political, totally not racist and totally not sexist gamers is going to be coincidentally very angry about the addition of female Muslim black African leader

 

[AriochIV]

There's Majapahit! Wonder what the First Look will be, then...

They don't have enough leaders to announce one every week. They've already announced Trung Trac; thus far each regional/ethnic group gets one and exactly one leader (not counting personas and DLC).

 

[Lord Lakely]

To expand on this, Specialist Limit is on a per tile basis. If your limit is 2, that's 2 Specialists per tile. Once placed, they cannot be moved, and they stay there across Age Transition. They have a maintenance but also a base yield, and boost Building Adjacencies in that tile by 50%, per Specialist.

When you transition Ages, you lose all Building Adjacencies, and go down to the base yield of the Specialist. Overbuilding in those tiles with Buildings from the new Age will allow the Specialists to boost the new adjacencies

In the case of Majapahit, when your Specialist Limit is reduced on Transition, all the effects of those Specialists stop working. But the Specialists themselves that exceed the Limit are still on the tile, and their effects will be re-enabled when you increase your Limit again through normal means.

Do I infer that correctly that Improved Specialist Limit is a Modern Era thing, and Majapahit get it one era sooner?