JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
I can see that, you just reminded me of them.
New NESes, ideas, development, etc
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Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Reminds me of Roll to Dodge in some ways too.
Basically in Roll to Dodge, you perform an action and the mod uses a 6 or a 20 sided dice to determine outcome, with 1 being catastrophic failure and max number being overshoot.
Eventually the characters will roll a 1 while trying to dodge a truck or alternatively roll overshoot while trying to tackle a guy on a 20 story skyscraper and did a horrible horrible death.
Basically in Roll to Dodge, you perform an action and the mod uses a 6 or a 20 sided dice to determine outcome, with 1 being catastrophic failure and max number being overshoot.
Eventually the characters will roll a 1 while trying to dodge a truck or alternatively roll overshoot while trying to tackle a guy on a 20 story skyscraper and did a horrible horrible death.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Heh, actions in ACs are calculated in that very same way. 
bonefang
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A question about the MES, are we allowed to use original characters? Or do we have to borrow them from another universe?
Milarqui
Deity
The former, of course. As long as it is not too overpowered.
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I'm very glad about this. That means my rediculous Russian persona can come out to play. Yay!
Alright, after some thought, I've established my NES idea a bit better.
The pre-thread will still run more or less the same, and, at the time when it is finished, I will post the map (it's not technically essential, though it will be quite useful. As for why I don't just go ahead and finish it, I am not the one making it). The map may come during or after the pre-NES thread, it isn't impacting on the nature of the thread.
As for the prior discussion on other intelligent species:
All players, because of the backstory and basic societal structure I had already laid out, will be human. The game is very much about the societal and individual stuggles humanity and humans will face to survive in this new environment, which, for aforementioned reasons and simplicity, will not host any native (or otherwise existing) civilizations.
That being said, I am not remotely opposed to having intelligent species which lack an existing societal structure appearing in-game, if people come up with some. They could even play major roles - I can think of more than a few - in plot progression. But it is completely relevant to the game that they don't have anything resembling established civilizations/nations.
So, perhaps a bit of clarification on what exactly this world is may be helpful?
Well, after [Insert backstory I'm trying to improve, since it sounds really crappy, here], mankind finds itself on a new world.
Err.
By "mankind", I mean about a city or two's worth of people. And by "new world", I mean a very small part of that world.
The region players will be occupying consists of a southern landmass, the predominant map feature, seperated by a Gibraltar-esque strait from a northern one. The northern landmass is similar to the savannahs of Africa, an immense grassland, and is uninhabited by people.
In the southern landmass, some remnants of the savannah fade way to a more traditional landmass, and eventually to a dense rainforest in the south of the map. Rivers dot the region, and, in the south and east, active tectonic movement has led to mountain chains and active volcanoes in the jungles.
Many islands exist scattered around this region, but the most notable is a chain of larger islands barely in view of the southern continent's western coast (gee, I wonder which Earth coastlines inspired me). This chain, which fields a diverse blend of tropical and temperate environments, is the farthest edge of the known part of the world.
For overall details, this world is considered to be slightly colder than Earth (no industrial-based warming, for starters), roughly the same size, and it recieves more rainfall (leading, with a few other factors, to larger tropics than ours).
Note that both landmasses are VERY incomplete, in the sense that they represent very small portions of their respective continent(s). Also note that this is not a world reached by space travel (nor is humanity capable of it). More on that when my backstory sounds like it wasn't written by a 6th grader (or conspiracy theorist).
Now onto demographics; the world has two major populations of people.
The first, a tiny portion of the population, representing the intellectual elite, are living on a couple of the islands without major predators. With photovoltaic and solarthermal energy sources, as well as buildings constructed prior to their arrival, they have stormproof homes, lights, largely self-contained heating, and clean, running water, as well as basic medical equipment run on electricity. Due to scarcity of materials, however, major injuries and most diseases are highly dangerous, and there is little room to expand if necessary. Food is limited, and the waters surrounding the islands are incredibly dangerous. These people aren't exactly living large, but they are capable of maintaining their system if they are very capable. Please note that they do not have access to much actual medicine, and lack powered vehicles, ways to obtain more metal/other resources, or rebuild much of which gets destroyed.
On the coast of the southern mainland, most of the population resides in far poorer conditions. While a few government centers exist, nothing resembling a home does, and no forms of electricity are available. There exists dramatically more food and manpower, but also far greater unrest and risk of danger and death. The land is as dangerous as the seas, and megafauna exist where they were wiped out on Earth. These people are highly resentful of the living conditions of the islanders, and, though contact is limited by the distance and dangers enough to avoid outright hostilities, communications remain tense and stressed. While this group isn't the intellectual elite, it should be noted that anyone who isn't a child has been chosen for their skills, and is hardly some skilless, uneducated bozo who popped in.
The islanders do not rule over the mainlanders, so that is not a point of tension.
While the islanders, out of necessity and ability, maintain a sort of communal, non-governmental state, the mainlanders have a limited but organised government (occasionally government), and often split off into smaller towns. It is not unheard of for groups of mainlanders to simply dissappear, hoping to find a better place to live.
While the buildings have already been established, this NES will take place soon (<1month) after arrival on the new world, and, as a result, no knowledge exists as to what is edible/the local environment/etc.
So, thoughts? Should I make a pre-NES thread for the wildlife now?
Also, names: currently, I have thought up two; Somewhere Like Home and By Any Other Name, open to suggestions.
The pre-thread will still run more or less the same, and, at the time when it is finished, I will post the map (it's not technically essential, though it will be quite useful. As for why I don't just go ahead and finish it, I am not the one making it). The map may come during or after the pre-NES thread, it isn't impacting on the nature of the thread.
As for the prior discussion on other intelligent species:
All players, because of the backstory and basic societal structure I had already laid out, will be human. The game is very much about the societal and individual stuggles humanity and humans will face to survive in this new environment, which, for aforementioned reasons and simplicity, will not host any native (or otherwise existing) civilizations.
That being said, I am not remotely opposed to having intelligent species which lack an existing societal structure appearing in-game, if people come up with some. They could even play major roles - I can think of more than a few - in plot progression. But it is completely relevant to the game that they don't have anything resembling established civilizations/nations.
So, perhaps a bit of clarification on what exactly this world is may be helpful?
Well, after [Insert backstory I'm trying to improve, since it sounds really crappy, here], mankind finds itself on a new world.
Err.
By "mankind", I mean about a city or two's worth of people. And by "new world", I mean a very small part of that world.
The region players will be occupying consists of a southern landmass, the predominant map feature, seperated by a Gibraltar-esque strait from a northern one. The northern landmass is similar to the savannahs of Africa, an immense grassland, and is uninhabited by people.
In the southern landmass, some remnants of the savannah fade way to a more traditional landmass, and eventually to a dense rainforest in the south of the map. Rivers dot the region, and, in the south and east, active tectonic movement has led to mountain chains and active volcanoes in the jungles.
Many islands exist scattered around this region, but the most notable is a chain of larger islands barely in view of the southern continent's western coast (gee, I wonder which Earth coastlines inspired me). This chain, which fields a diverse blend of tropical and temperate environments, is the farthest edge of the known part of the world.
For overall details, this world is considered to be slightly colder than Earth (no industrial-based warming, for starters), roughly the same size, and it recieves more rainfall (leading, with a few other factors, to larger tropics than ours).
Note that both landmasses are VERY incomplete, in the sense that they represent very small portions of their respective continent(s). Also note that this is not a world reached by space travel (nor is humanity capable of it). More on that when my backstory sounds like it wasn't written by a 6th grader (or conspiracy theorist).
Now onto demographics; the world has two major populations of people.
The first, a tiny portion of the population, representing the intellectual elite, are living on a couple of the islands without major predators. With photovoltaic and solarthermal energy sources, as well as buildings constructed prior to their arrival, they have stormproof homes, lights, largely self-contained heating, and clean, running water, as well as basic medical equipment run on electricity. Due to scarcity of materials, however, major injuries and most diseases are highly dangerous, and there is little room to expand if necessary. Food is limited, and the waters surrounding the islands are incredibly dangerous. These people aren't exactly living large, but they are capable of maintaining their system if they are very capable. Please note that they do not have access to much actual medicine, and lack powered vehicles, ways to obtain more metal/other resources, or rebuild much of which gets destroyed.
On the coast of the southern mainland, most of the population resides in far poorer conditions. While a few government centers exist, nothing resembling a home does, and no forms of electricity are available. There exists dramatically more food and manpower, but also far greater unrest and risk of danger and death. The land is as dangerous as the seas, and megafauna exist where they were wiped out on Earth. These people are highly resentful of the living conditions of the islanders, and, though contact is limited by the distance and dangers enough to avoid outright hostilities, communications remain tense and stressed. While this group isn't the intellectual elite, it should be noted that anyone who isn't a child has been chosen for their skills, and is hardly some skilless, uneducated bozo who popped in.
The islanders do not rule over the mainlanders, so that is not a point of tension.
While the islanders, out of necessity and ability, maintain a sort of communal, non-governmental state, the mainlanders have a limited but organised government (occasionally government), and often split off into smaller towns. It is not unheard of for groups of mainlanders to simply dissappear, hoping to find a better place to live.
While the buildings have already been established, this NES will take place soon (<1month) after arrival on the new world, and, as a result, no knowledge exists as to what is edible/the local environment/etc.
So, thoughts? Should I make a pre-NES thread for the wildlife now?
Also, names: currently, I have thought up two; Somewhere Like Home and By Any Other Name, open to suggestions.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
Thank you.
As for the economy, my idea was to create an economic system more than just 'here's some cash, now go and use it' like SKNES I's was. See Terrance's post as well.
This wouldn't be a progression of your old NES, right?
Unfortunately, no. I honestly don't feel like making a sequel to SKNES I - yet. I'm not quite done with that world though, and sooner or later I'll end up going back to it.
It will be the trend. More specifically, I'm looking at it being a projection of what will be happening to the economy over the next year(s). Currently the levels are: Collapsing, Declining, Stagnant, Growing, Booming.
Do note, however, that this is the total economy, NOT what the government (and therefore the player) controls - that is determined by the percentage next to the economic status.
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
A bit of an update on KhaNES 2. Units and buildings.
All the characters in KOTOR are the Senators of the Roman Republic. Characters have their own military, intrigue, and management ratings, traits, and possibly funds, holdings, and armies. An example character stats looks like this;
Name: Self explanatory.
Military: The character's military score. Determines how good a commander he is, and partially determines your success in battle.
Intrigue: The character's intrigue score. Shows how good he is at the scheming and plotting of the Roman Republic. Determines diplomacy with NPC nations and assassinations.
Management: The character's management score. Shows how good a character is at managing the day to day running of a territory. Determines how much income a governor gets from a province
Governorships: What provinces a senator is governor of. Provinces provide income to the character.
Funds: How much money the character has.
Armies: The armies under the character's command. Legions are granted by order of the Senate, while personal forces are always under your command until you grant them to someone else. Armies follow you around absolutely - you cannot leave them behind to defend something, you must be with them at all times.
Traits: What traits your character possesses, which determine their score. They happen semi-randomly, but doing certain things can increase the chances of getting a trait. Traits can be good or bad.
Provinces
A sample province stat looks like this;
Name: Self explanatory
Governor: The governor of the province
Value: How much money the province provides to the Republic and the Governor. The amount of money to both the Republic and Governor is equal to: (Value*Management)/2
Stability: How stable the province is, out of 10.
Buildings: These are the buildings that can be built in a province. Buildings give certain bonuses to the builder or the governor of the province.
Units
Senators can build the following units.
All the characters in KOTOR are the Senators of the Roman Republic. Characters have their own military, intrigue, and management ratings, traits, and possibly funds, holdings, and armies. An example character stats looks like this;
Name: Self explanatory.
Military: The character's military score. Determines how good a commander he is, and partially determines your success in battle.
Intrigue: The character's intrigue score. Shows how good he is at the scheming and plotting of the Roman Republic. Determines diplomacy with NPC nations and assassinations.
Management: The character's management score. Shows how good a character is at managing the day to day running of a territory. Determines how much income a governor gets from a province
Governorships: What provinces a senator is governor of. Provinces provide income to the character.
Funds: How much money the character has.
Armies: The armies under the character's command. Legions are granted by order of the Senate, while personal forces are always under your command until you grant them to someone else. Armies follow you around absolutely - you cannot leave them behind to defend something, you must be with them at all times.
Traits: What traits your character possesses, which determine their score. They happen semi-randomly, but doing certain things can increase the chances of getting a trait. Traits can be good or bad.
Provinces
A sample province stat looks like this;
Name: Self explanatory
Governor: The governor of the province
Value: How much money the province provides to the Republic and the Governor. The amount of money to both the Republic and Governor is equal to: (Value*Management)/2
Stability: How stable the province is, out of 10.
Buildings: These are the buildings that can be built in a province. Buildings give certain bonuses to the builder or the governor of the province.
Spoiler List of buildings :
Units
Senators can build the following units.
Spoiler Units :
Milarqui
Deity
Well, the idea is certainly interesting, GK! I might join the game in the future.
Also, a partial list of abilities and disabilities for the RPG.
Abilities
Artilleryman: your ability with big guns (like bazookas, machineguns or even actual artillery).
Chemist: your ability to work with, and identify, chemical components.
Commando: your ability to use rifles and other light 2-hand firearms.
Computer Wizard: your ability to work with computers, both hardware and software.
Crafting: your ability to make things that may be considered art (the different arts are separate).
Gunman: your ability to use one-hand guns, like pistols or light machine guns.
Magic: your ability to use magic.
Martial Artist: your ability to fight without weapons.
Mechanic: your ability to work with machinery, repair it and even create new machines.
Medicine: your ability to heal the human body.
Pilot: your ability to control different vehicles.
Sniper: your ability to shoot at long distances.
Steal: your ability to take things owned by others without getting caught.
Stealth: your ability to sneak around without being seen.
Trading: your ability to trade with other people.
Disabilities
Alcoholic: you need alcohol to get through the day.
Allergy: your body reacts badly if you interact with something.
Chronic Illness: you suffer from an incurable illness.
Double Personality: you have two personalities, that may change at any point.
Obsessed: you suffer an obsession with something, and you feel compelled to talk about it.
Paranoia: you think people are trying to go after you.
Pervert: you feel a need to look on other people naked or having sex, especially if they are of the opposite sex.
Schizophrenia: you hear voices and see things that are not there.
Stalker: there is a person you feel you know well, even though you haven't met. Thus, you feel the need to follow that person whenever you find her.
These, of course, are incomplete lists, so any additions you may want to make are welcome.
Also, a partial list of abilities and disabilities for the RPG.
Abilities
Artilleryman: your ability with big guns (like bazookas, machineguns or even actual artillery).
Chemist: your ability to work with, and identify, chemical components.
Commando: your ability to use rifles and other light 2-hand firearms.
Computer Wizard: your ability to work with computers, both hardware and software.
Crafting: your ability to make things that may be considered art (the different arts are separate).
Gunman: your ability to use one-hand guns, like pistols or light machine guns.
Magic: your ability to use magic.
Martial Artist: your ability to fight without weapons.
Mechanic: your ability to work with machinery, repair it and even create new machines.
Medicine: your ability to heal the human body.
Pilot: your ability to control different vehicles.
Sniper: your ability to shoot at long distances.
Steal: your ability to take things owned by others without getting caught.
Stealth: your ability to sneak around without being seen.
Trading: your ability to trade with other people.
Disabilities
Alcoholic: you need alcohol to get through the day.
Allergy: your body reacts badly if you interact with something.
Chronic Illness: you suffer from an incurable illness.
Double Personality: you have two personalities, that may change at any point.
Obsessed: you suffer an obsession with something, and you feel compelled to talk about it.
Paranoia: you think people are trying to go after you.
Pervert: you feel a need to look on other people naked or having sex, especially if they are of the opposite sex.
Schizophrenia: you hear voices and see things that are not there.
Stalker: there is a person you feel you know well, even though you haven't met. Thus, you feel the need to follow that person whenever you find her.
These, of course, are incomplete lists, so any additions you may want to make are welcome.
bonefang
Emperor
Disabilities :
Pervert ... works well with the sniper guy
Pervert ... works well with the sniper guy
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Peeping sniper?
I would pay to see a story about that.
I would pay to see a story about that.
Milarqui
Deity
Added a couple more ideas. Also, take into account this: alternate universes might have alternate people, as in, alternate versions of you! 
Who knows, once you might even find yourselves next to an alternate RL you...
Who knows, once you might even find yourselves next to an alternate RL you...
Blue Bacon 3
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A Roman game sounds fun, and the time & world-traveling one is really creative though there might be conflicts within the group of travellers, with people getting left behind... 
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Can we have custom powers? Because my guy has some specfic powers. They're not overpowered though.
Milarqui
Deity
As I said, it is a partial list, so yeah.
bonefang
Emperor
I would love to be one of the Cult Mechanicus' Tech Priests ..
more like a modern day version of Sasori of the red sands
more like a modern day version of Sasori of the red sands
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
I would love to be one of the Cult Mechanicus' Tech Priests ..
more like a modern day version of Sasori of the red sands
Curses. I was going to try to play as somebody from 40k. Probably a Commissar, just because of the hat.
Anyway, working on the ruleset for KhaNES 2. This will likely be the finalised ruleset, but please do let me know if I am missing something crucial. The rules are a bit opaque in places, I feel, and I have this nagging feeling I've forgotten to explain something somewhere.
Spoiler KhaNES 2 Rules :
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
If you play as Comissar, you will probably shoot one of us in the head for showing fear soonish.
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