Nitram15's LeaderHead gallery!

[MadmanOfALeader]

But it doesn't matter, because as modders we can do whatever we'd like. So if Cool wants to change the effect that's his decision, if Ekmek wants to make Attila look "devilish" that is his decision too. But it's pretty obvious that there is an affinity for Huns in Hungary, but that shouldn't shroud the true history of what occured and what Attila was responsible for doing. I am an American, and I know we've done some pretty horrible things throughout history. This doesn't change the affinity I have for my country, but I also know that we massacred hundreds of thousands of natives, and enslaved hundreds of thousands of Africans, interned Japanese, Italians and Germans and dropped nukes on Japanese cities. So I'm simply saying having an affinity for something or someone shouldn't cloud what that thing or person is responsible for doing.

In other words, don't be a Republican.

Couldn't resist...

 

[Nitram15]

I have no problem with Huns, it's just a disservice to history to try to ignore what they did under Attila. I didn't say Huns were bad, I said Attila was a pretty bad dude, he personally oversaw all of this. It wasn't like the Huns just went out, without Attila and massacred 20,000 Burgundian people. Attila did it. He was an extortionist, he'd sack cities and then demand tribute from others so that they wouldn't have the same fate. I am not saying others didn't do this, they certainly did, the Romans surely did it themselves. I am not trying to say that they were any worse than the Romans or others in their period, but what I am saying is just because of some sort of nationalistic fervor for their history, and respect for what they did, one shouldn't ignore the facts.

But it doesn't matter, because as modders we can do whatever we'd like. So if Cool wants to change the effect that's his decision, if Ekmek wants to make Attila look "devilish" that is his decision too. But it's pretty obvious that there is an affinity for Huns in Hungary, but that shouldn't shroud the true history of what occured and what Attila was responsible for doing. I am an American, and I know we've done some pretty horrible things throughout history. This doesn't change the affinity I have for my country, but I also know that we massacred hundreds of thousands of natives, and enslaved hundreds of thousands of Africans, interned Japanese, Italians and Germans and dropped nukes on Japanese cities. So I'm simply saying having an affinity for something or someone shouldn't cloud what that thing or person is responsible for doing.

You don't know anything about Attila's good side. Attila was be for culture and his people too. You can't say that he was the world's most evil man.

But I say again. Stop discussing about huns. Start discussing about my lhs, or I will close this thread with a moderator! I don't like this running battle.

 

[The Capo]

You don't know anything about Attila's good side. Attila was be for culture and his people too. You can't say that he was the world's most evil man.

I don't really need to know anything about his good side, nor do I need to know anything about Hitler's good side, or Caesar's good side, or anything like that. They killed a bunch of people for personal gain, that's enough for me. And Attila was not for culture, give me one example. There are none, he was an extortionist.

But I say again. Stop discussing about huns. Start discussing about my lhs, or I will close this thread with a moderator! I don't like this running battle.

The best way to avoid a discussion isn't to discuss it and then tell people to stop discussing it. And it doesn't matter anyway, this is just a thread in a forum. It's not like we're taking up your space or anything. Put up an LH and we can discuss it.

@ Madman; good point.

 

[Nitram15]

Tomorrow, The Capo.
I've got 2 completed LHs! (Fallout 3 Series)
Usually I using my internet, but today, I don't.

 

[The Capo]

Tomorrow, The Capo.
I've got 2 completed LHs! (Fallout 3 Series)
Usually I using my internet, but today, I don't.

Nice, who are they going to be?

 

[Nitram15]

1. President Cheng: (based on Mao Zedong)
In Fallout 3 he's the president of the People Republic of China (my best leaderhead ever!)

2. Elder Lyons: (based on Raul Colombo from Final Frontier)
Elder in the Citadel (the Pentagon after the atomic war), of the Brotherhood of Steel.

No pictures yet.

 

[cool3a2]

Although you, The Capo, obviously got my point wrong and although I believe this is partly not offtopic as it is about choosing a proper background for the lh, I won't continue the discussion because of respect towards nitram. Also, I made clear several times that it is okay for me to alter the leaderhead by my own. Finally, I haven't yet checked Sitting Bulls background or the effect connected with it to be honest. If it is meant to be a campfire for example, then a fire effect is just fine for me. When talking about my concerns, I was thinking of Ekmeks Attila (only the said effect, not the leaderheads quality of course). As you haven't mentioned much about your Ruga lh, nitram, I was thinking you are setting up something similar. Well, I was obviously wrong. Could you maybe betray something about your Ruga to us to make us a bit hungry? I'm not thinking of details, but things like for example on whom you have based it. If you are really making him an old man like in the movie, I bet you based him on Caesar, which would be kind of ironic, but of course okay. Also, don't mind for the delay. The following days I'll celebrate anyways rather than do some civ4 modding, you know Even if it takes you till march to set him up, it's fine for me!

BTW / @The Capo: Glad to see you are quite self-critical regarding the american history. Not that I think that Americans would be quite evil people, but usually I read statements quite different from yours, that are from other Americans that try to justify for example dropping the nuclear bomb. They quickly get annoying... You on the other side, seem to be quite fair.

 

[Nitram15]

Although you, The Capo, obviously got my point wrong and although I believe this is partly not offtopic as it is about choosing a proper background for the lh, I won't continue the discussion because of respect towards nitram. Also, I made clear several times that it is okay for me to alter the leaderhead by my own. Finally, I haven't yet checked Sitting Bulls background or the effect connected with it to be honest. If it is meant to be a campfire for example, then a fire effect is just fine for me. When talking about my concerns, I was thinking of Ekmeks Attila (only the said effect, not the leaderheads quality of course). As you haven't mentioned much about your Ruga lh, nitram, I was thinking you are setting up something similar. Well, I was obviously wrong. Could you maybe betray something about your Ruga to us to make us a bit hungry? I'm not thinking of details, but things like for example on whom you have based it. If you are really making him an old man like in the movie, I bet you based him on Caesar, which would be kind of ironic, but of course okay. Also, don't mind for the delay. The following days I'll celebrate anyways rather than do some civ4 modding, you know Even if it takes you till march to set him up, it's fine for me!

BTW / @The Capo: Glad to see you are quite self-critical regarding the american history. Not that I think that Americans would be quite evil people, but usually I read statements quite different from yours, that are from other Americans that try to justify for example dropping the nuclear bomb. They quickly get annoying... You on the other side, seem to be quite fair.

Maybe I misunderstood you, or you misunderstood us. I will base him (Ruga) on Mehmed II. Is him good? I using Genghis' fur, Saladin's modifyed cap, and some minor changes. Anithying else? I wanted to bring Sitting Bull's effect, not to argue you; only because that effet is very cool for a hun. (Talán ezúttal egyetértesz, ha nem, igazán sajnálom.) About the campfire: That's a good idea. Anyway, Sitting Bull's "devilish" (I don't think so) effect is its SHADER! So, I can't make the normal + Sitting Bull's shader too! Maybe, you understand, and accept my suggestion. When not, I haven't got anything else about creating a nice leaderhead. Mehmed II. is turkish and a bit old, and you said, make Ruga a little Turkish. I don't think Ekmek's Attila Leadehead is devilish. (Nézd meg Eden Elnök leadehead -emet. Ő direkt ördögien néz ki, mert ő maga is gonosz ember. A szemöldöke és a szája, láttatja, hogy gonosz. Attila, és a majdani Ruga, attól ,hogy Ülő Bika effektjét használják, nem lesznek gonoszak, vagy gonosznak tűnőek.)

 

[cool3a2]

I never wanted to say that Sitting Bull is devilish, I was thinking of Ekmeks Attila and even there, it's not the leaderhead itself, but the light and the background which reminds me on hell. Attila himself looks even symphatic... But anyways, because of the mentioned reasons we can finally consider this discussion closed, I think.

What you told us so far about what you do and your plans sounds promising to me. One last question: will you take the head form suggestion? And to avoid further misunderstandings: when saying I'd like to have him turkic (actually not turkish, turkic means kind of proto-turkish or at least that's what I wanted to say...) I was thinking of his ethnicity, not the clothing. In other words: I wasn't necesarrily thinking on oriental clothing etc. That you use Mehmet as base, suits that goal, I'd say (as he looks turkic). Also, you said you use furs, that sounds good to me as well! So, I can hardly await it to see previews!

Actually, although it was more developed by accident, I start to like the idea with the campfire. Some scene in the night or dusk, maybe with yurts in the background, amd the said fire effect could work. Actually something similar like the Warlords add-on main menu background... Maybe you could try to find a nice yurt pic on flickr for example (there are several - I searched for stuff like that when renewing Árpáds background, remember?) and turn it dark if necessary...

 

[Nitram15]

I never wanted to say that Sitting Bull is devilish, I was thinking of Ekmeks Attila and even there, it's not the leaderhead itself, but the light and the background which reminds me on hell. Attila himself looks even symphatic... But anyways, because of the mentioned reasons we can finally consider this discussion closed, I think.

What you told us so far about what you do and your plans sounds promising to me. One last question: will you take the head form suggestion? And to avoid further misunderstandings: when saying I'd like to have him turkic (actually not turkish, turkic means kind of proto-turkish or at least that's what I wanted to say...) I was thinking of his ethnicity, not the clothing. In other words: I wasn't necesarrily thinking on oriental clothing etc. That you use Mehmet as base, suits that goal, I'd say (as he looks turkic). Also, you said you use furs, that sounds good to me as well! So, I can hardly await it to see previews!

Actually, although it was more developed by accident, I start to like the idea with the campfire. Some scene in the night or dusk, maybe with yurts in the background, amd the said fire effect could work. Actually something similar like the Warlords add-on main menu background... Maybe you could try to find a nice yurt pic on flickr for example (there are several - I searched for stuff like that when renewing Árpáds background, remember?) and turn it dark if necessary...

Of course I did the head deform.
Árpád's bg is good.
I'm perfect with night bg making.
Maybe tomorrow, I will upload my President Cheng lh, then you cansee what can I do as night bg. He has the same bg as Mao Zedong has (I based on Mao), but at night!

 

[Nitram15]

Here is a picture about President Cheng:


Let's discuss him!
He is using Sitting Bull's shader effect.

 

[cool3a2]

Hey, that looks pretty good! Again, the textures look perfect. They are detailed and sort of dirty, which makes them realistic. The best part is the hat. Also, the shader and the geometry of the leader is pretty well done! Good work.

EDIT:

Of course I did the head deform.

Coooooooool! Now, the leaderheads will really fit to Bakuels unitset I am using!

 

[IgorS]

Here is a picture about President Cheng:
View attachment 238278

Let's discuss him!
He is using Sitting Bull's shader effect.

You're right- it is your best LH ever. It could be used also as a real-life historical figure. Maybe Choybalsan of Mongolia (although I don't really remember what he looked like right now, so I might be wrong).

 

[Nitram15]

Thanks. The textures and models are from the real Fallout 3!

 

[The Capo]

Very cool, that could even be used as a Mao LH for a Chinese civil war scenario to be honest. Good work.

 

[Nitram15]

Thanks, The Capo.

A little bigger picture:

 

[cool3a2]

Thanks. The textures and models are from the real Fallout 3!

Still, it's pretty cool.

With a little bit different eyes, your leaderhead looks pretty much like Rákosi, don't you think? I mean, the clothing would need to be different, but the shape of the face is pretty close to his, I'd say. Not that I want to use that pig as leader for Hungary, but I found the similarity worth to mention...

 

[Nitram15]

Still, it's pretty cool.

With a little bit different eyes, your leaderhead looks pretty much like Rákosi, don't you think? I mean, the clothing would need to be different, but the shape of the face is pretty close to his, I'd say. Not that I want to use that pig as leader for Hungary, but I found the similarity worth to mention...

Hmm. Not Rákosi was my goal. But now you said, yes he is looks like him.
But I won't create him as leaderhead! I create every Árpád house king, or other historical person of Hungary, but not Rákosi.

 

[cool3a2]

But I won't create him as leaderhead! I create every Árpád house king, or other historical person of Hungary, but not Rákosi.

Sure, I can understand that. Although for a cold war scenario it might be okay. It's bit like with the Hitler lhs. Both are bad guys and Hitler isn't a good idea as a leaderhead for an ordinary game as he isn't really representive for Germany, just as Rákosi isn't for Hungary. But for a scenario, they are both suitable... But I'm not aware of a scenario that could really need Rákosi.

 

[Nitram15]

Of course. We (Hungary) don't need a Rákosi leaderhead.