NotW LVII - Tempus Fugit (game thread)

Because from what I understand, you would have made dicetosser's action redirect to you, so I'm not sure where pizza is getting the idea that you could have pulled protection away. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

I'm also not quite sure what the point of your ability is, but that's another discussion.

edit: directed at mat
 
Can you explain your ability again? I am still kinda confused there.

I can cause the ability of any player I choose to target me instead at night (or have it target someone random). This only works if they have an active night ability.

I don't know, and I can't confirm that. But Arakhor can.

A fair point.

Because from what I understand, you would have made dicetosser's action redirect to you, so I'm not sure where pizza is getting the idea that you could have pulled protection away. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

I'm also not quite sure what the point of your ability is, but that's another discussion.

edit: directed at mat

I would indeed pull his ability, not the abilities affecting him.


And yeah, but with 24 abilities in the game, some of them will be less useful than others.
 
So unless dice had an active self-protection, and I don't see any indication why that would be the case, I assume ATPG is just misunderstanding your role.
 
Mat should target the mafia role-thief with his power.

It's also useful to target a mafia roleblocker with that power. Or a mafia bus-driver.

Has some limited utility in drawing the murder like a bodyguard role, if you target the scum doing the murder, maybe.

Mainly, don't target a villager with that power, Mat.
 
So unless dice had an active self-protection, and I don't see any indication why that would be the case, I assume ATPG is just misunderstanding your role.

Without going into details, it's not just that, I think a power was not applied correctly, mechanically speaking. I just want folks to check with the game host to see if there were any irregularities before proceeding with assumptions.

I also don't know how Mat's power works or if it works as he claims it does. But regardless of his alignment he was at dice's location and probably needs to privately confirm he didn't accidentally somehow pull dice's protection away.

Assuming dice was the one protected besides me.
 
Mat should target the mafia role-thief with his power.

It's also useful to target a mafia roleblocker with that power. Or a mafia bus-driver.

Has some limited utility in drawing the murder like a bodyguard role, if you target the scum doing the murder, maybe.

Mainly, don't target a villager with that power, Mat.

Thats brilliant and all that, but if I knew who those people were, I would be trying to get them lynched, not have them active at night at a target of choice.

Because frankly having them dead is better than them targeting me. I am however extremely curious what would happen if I did target a roleblocker.
 
I am however extremely curious what would happen if I did target a roleblocker.

That sounds like it would cause a paradox. I don't really want to find out either!
 
Thats brilliant and all that, but if I knew who those people were, I would be trying to get them lynched, not have them active at night at a target of choice.

Because frankly having them dead is better than them targeting me. I am however extremely curious what would happen if I did target a roleblocker.

It's like the seer, he doesn't know who to target, he simply might hit the jackpot. You just gotta guess. Sometimes you don't have the votes to get 'em lynched.

Look at my list of villagers from yesterday, go down the list of reasons why I think they're a villager. If you disagree feel free to target them. If you agree they're villagers, I'm asking you to target my nulls or below with your power.

You might get lucky. We could use some luck.

At bare minimum, look at how your ability could be useful. If you agree it's largely pointless to use on villagers, target scums with it.

That's why my reaction was what it was when you said you targeted dice.

It's only the fact that it's outrageously pointless for you to claim you did that, as scum, that is making me go, this can be a townie who has no idea what to do with his power.

You said you found dice suspicious- I don't agree but I do agree you should only target suspicious people with it.

Let's just make sure our jailkeeper or watcher or myself are not on your suspicion list.
 
Drawing a roleblocker to you happens before the block. The block then happens.

Bus driver and lightning rod and very few other roles should take order priority over a roleblocker, because they affect target-based roles, and a roleblocker is a target-based role.

A blocker who isn't trying to block a lightning rod, getting targeted by the lightning rod, must be blocked by the lightning rod.

A blocker blocking the lightning rod who is targeting the blocker means both roles would appear at each other's locations but no other effects really.
 
It's only the fact that it's outrageously pointless for you to claim you did that, as scum, that is making me go, this can be a townie who has no idea what to do with his power.

You said you found dice suspicious- I don't agree but I do agree you should only target suspicious people with it.

Let's just make sure our jailkeeper or watcher or myself are not on your suspicion list.


I feel the need to point out I'm not an idiot (because that is very much the impression you are giving me, that you think I am). I targeted choxorn based on your reads, as he was someone where more information of any kind could be useful to swing either way.

I targeted dice because I disagreed with you, and was starting to not trust the group of you/cuth/dice, and the sheer amount of information you had from places I have no clue of where. I targeted dice over Cuth for the sole reason of if I was wrong to not trust that group, it would cause the minimal disruption to town (considering my ability wouldn't work on you).

You might completely disagree, but they are logical thoughts. And not stupid ones either. And shared by more than just me, considering the number of people who posed questions to or about one or more of that group.
 
Drawing a roleblocker to you happens before the block. The block then happens.

Bus driver and lightning rod and very few other roles should take order priority over a roleblocker, because they affect target-based roles, and a roleblocker is a target-based role.

A blocker who isn't trying to block a lightning rod, getting targeted by the lightning rod, must be blocked by the lightning rod.

A blocker blocking the lightning rod who is targeting the blocker means both roles would appear at each other's locations but no other effects really.

That seems as good an explanation as any. Thank you.
 
Again, allow me to clarify. I did not realize Sprig was the cop and dice was his peek, and if I had I am not certain I would have protected them. I'm quite sure I'm not the only role that has any sort of doctor-type utility, and I'm not all-powerful, so I'd appreciate it if you could blame the doctors for this, Pizza, rather than me.
 
Again, allow me to clarify. I did not realize Sprig was the cop and dice was his peek, and if I had I am not certain I would have protected them. I'm quite sure I'm not the only role that has any sort of doctor-type utility, and I'm not all-powerful, so I'd appreciate it if you could blame the doctors for this, Pizza, rather than me.

I also didn't realize it at the time, though looking back I can now see what sprig was trying to say.

On a side note, I still don't like your vote yesterday, Golden1Knight. Your vote for Jarrema day 1 wasn't great either, you're just acting fluffy, sheeping other people's reasoning and trying to not stand out and all the while you're lampshading that you're sheeping other people.
 
Replacement Pigeon checking in. I will need some time to get caught up, but I wanted to post that I am here now.
 
Lassie

From my night actions: Kennigit is not a killer
 
From my night actions: Kennigit is not a killer

Are you the one who stole his ability, then? Or maybe you're a tracker or a roleblocker or something who for some reason decided to use your ability on someone who claimed to no longer have an ability? A seer?

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with this, but it sure sounds like you might be the ability thief.
 
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