Zack
99% hot gas
Are you going to answer me re: lassie? I think there are valid reasons to vote him, but you haven't given any besides the assumed omgus.
NotW LVII - Tempus Fugit (game thread)
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Zack
99% hot gas
I lean town on Al Sips for that last Jarrema vote.
First time I've been online since he showed up dead.
Remind me of your reasons for suspecting him.
Al Sipsclar
Prince
Hey, I like how tame Lassie has been this game considering his activity in the last game. Don't jinx it!
1. IIRC Visor mentioned you playing that way/well as Town for more than one game; and
2.What was traumatic? I don't usually cause trauma if I can help it.
Maybe before but not after.
Spoiler compartmentalizing the trauma :
Snerk
Smeghead
Not saying they all piled on auto. Saying it's an easy vote and I suspect there's scum(s) on that wagon.
Not really. Why do you think it's wifom?
Al Sipsclar
Prince
That's nice, but since it didn't result in a lynch, I could make it in any alignment.
Golden1Knight
Emperor
It's not the brightest meta, yeah. I'm working on it
We were already considering him as a townie, whose ability had been stolen, then his involvement in any death was not being suspected/considered (or that's what I understood).Following this reasoning, you exposed yourself unnecessarily or you're trying to look townie by revealing the obvious.
I agree with you here, but...
... Indeed, there is a high likelihood of wolves voting for Autolycus/Jarrema, although this post is only saying the obvious.
no.
I dont have strong reasons to vote him. I just want to put my vote somewhere.
And I know I believe Kennigit for now.
Zack
99% hot gas
If you're really that interested in why I suspected a dead townie, go back and look for yourself. I fail to see how that would be a productive use of time. And, for the record, you didn't even care what my reasons were while dicetosser was still alive, so I don't know why you would care know that he's dead. Towards the end of the day I realized Sprig was hinting pretty strongly at scanning dice town, so I backed off.
If you are accusing me of something, say it. If you are honoring your predecessor's obnoxious obsession with me, say it.
I had to run so I didn't get to elaborate on the why, so here it is:
If Jarrema is mafia, your vote was reckless and ill-advised, leading me to think you're town.
If Jarrema is town, your vote possibly lynches him. As autolycus was under a lot of scrutiny entirely for being "saved" from the lynch at the last second on d1, you doing the same thing again would throw a lot of suspicion your way for no real gain. Again, making me think you're probably town.
So I actually think it's pretty unlikely you would "make [that vote] in any alignment". Thinking about it, it's weird that you would even suggest that, without some knowledge of Jarrema's alignment or there being a doublevoter (or something) voting auto. So maybe you're not as townie as I think.
Ha. I think Jarrema is town based on this post. I feel scum Jarrema would give some flimsy justification or wait to jump on a wagon.
You're not curious about why I would Vote: Lassie? Compare his behavior here to that of his play in Aspiring Rappers, and note the massive difference. I've mentioned this a few times and it's been mostly ignored.
Al Sipsclar
Prince
I have been back and looked for myself. What I can see is you suspecting him because:
(i) he suspected you
(ii) he was inconsistent in his suspicions
Was that all there was to it?
And then he showed up dead in the morning. Funny that.
This all looks so blatantly suspicious, I find myself wondering if a scumbag Jarrema would really post like this.
Zack
99% hot gas
I have been back and looked for myself. What I can see is you suspecting him because:
(i) he suspected you
(ii) he was inconsistent in his suspicions
Was that all there was to it?
And then he showed up dead in the morning. Funny that.
Clearly all you are interested in here is good ol' slander. Enough teasing. Call me scum and vote me already, sheesh. Meanwhile, everyone else can focus on doing something actually productive.
Zack
99% hot gas
Investigative abilities are blatantly suspicious now?
Post-Midday Tally
Jarrema (3): ATPG, Lassie, Cass
Snerk (3): Al Sipsclar, Kennigit, atheotes
Lassie (2): Jarrema, Zack
Golden1Knight (1): choxorn
KingMorgan (1): Snerk
Not Voting (7): Murska, Cuthillius, Mat93, Pouter Pigeon, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Golden1Knight
Not Posting (2): KingMorgan, Takhisis
Jarrema (3): ATPG, Lassie, Cass
Snerk (3): Al Sipsclar, Kennigit, atheotes
Lassie (2): Jarrema, Zack
Golden1Knight (1): choxorn
KingMorgan (1): Snerk
Not Voting (7): Murska, Cuthillius, Mat93, Pouter Pigeon, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Golden1Knight
Not Posting (2): KingMorgan, Takhisis
Yeah, nice try, but I won't be rushed.No, obviously not. It's the choice of target and the nature of the reveal, not to mention the hedging in those later posts.
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
I mean day 1 i randomly voted jarrema as townie, the scum could easily decide to float a near-lynched jarrema to say "well you'llget lynched anyways, go ahead and connect yourself with that Order member Kennigit"
Especially since we have established the ability thief is clearly scum. Some paranoid townie can ask, "WELL WHERE IS THIS MAGICAL THIEF KENNIGIT??"
And I'll happily respond, "in a polygamous relationship with Vareth"
Side note, the Order did rule a few years ago that a person having the same relationship but across different timelines didb't count as "polygamous". The multiverse versions of you is also you, not an entirely different person. Just slightly different
Especially since we have established the ability thief is clearly scum. Some paranoid townie can ask, "WELL WHERE IS THIS MAGICAL THIEF KENNIGIT??"
And I'll happily respond, "in a polygamous relationship with Vareth"
Side note, the Order did rule a few years ago that a person having the same relationship but across different timelines didb't count as "polygamous". The multiverse versions of you is also you, not an entirely different person. Just slightly different
Kennigit
proud 2 boxer
(I.e. if jarrema is scum it makes me look a little worse)
Murska
Warlord
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Kennigit
- Either Town, or someone Town stole his ability and he's Scum which seems very unlikely. Either way, the stealing thing feels very genuine.
Zack
- I'm trying to see whether he looks like he did in the previous game. Can't trust him anymore after that, but he seems to be more... light-hearted, I guess? Less aggressive.
- More aggressive later in the game. I don't know enough meta to say but I'd assume it's just his style.
Jarrema
Snerk
- Just hides a vote in there, no participation. Huh.
- Still skating by on day 2. :/
- Post 593 feels like scum that knows there is no cult.
Golden1Knight
- Quickly jumping on Jarrema to counter the wagon at (town) spaceman.'
- Really just sitting on the sidelines, just like Snerk. Though I faintly recall he did the same in Rappers or some other game I saw him in as Town.
KingMorgan
Pouter Pigeon
- Lohrenswald/Takhisis W/W?
- Post 264 too scummy to be scum.
Winston Hughes
- Quickly jumping on Jarrema to counter the wagon at (town) spaceman. (As Duff)
- Broke the tie. Slight town, but a good scum would do that too. (As Duff)
Takhisis
- Takhisis/Lohrenswald W/W?
- Post 291 just makes it look worse to me.
Choxorn
- Post 754. I like it.
Al Sipsclar
- Post 165 seems off.
- Post 669 ugh. Really?
Mat93
- Huh. I just realized almost all the way through this read of the thread that he's been active and all, but not a single thing I've read of him has pinged one way or another. That's just suspicious in itself. Roleclaim tho, so eh...
Lassie
- Opener feels off.
- Plenty of talk (though not quite as much as in the Rappers game)... some substance, I guess?
- Disappeared. Why?
Newyn
- I'm pretty sure he's Town, from what I've seen of him on GITP. Alternatively, scum PR with some sort of an ability that he's planned the use of from the beginning for some overly complicated gambit. Probably Town.
- Still Town but should probably try to be more useful instead of just fixating on whatever his power is.
Cuthillius
- First post isn't even funny.
- Push on Lohrenswald seems Town.
- I don't think he'd play his PR cards like this as scum.
Askthepizzaguy
- I'd be much more suspicious if people weren't confirming power shenanigans. People who shout so much about how Town they are tend to not be Town.
- ...but his actual content, when provided, looks pretty good. Is seriously leading the Town, so if it's in the wrong direction, that's bad. We should resolve this by doing independent analysis and going along with Pizza if the results coincide.
Cass
- Like the questioning. It's both compatible with my own style and fitting with observed behaviour in Rappers game.
- ...but where's the follow-up? Feels soft.
- Post 636 what is this 'fair' thing you speak of?
atheotes
- Post 586 feels Town. It seems like just the kind of reaction I tend to have when I spot something that feels really off and just post a vote immediately.
Okay, went over the thread, made notes where I saw something. Based on this, I'll Vote: Snerk for hiding and being scummy.
Jarrema and Kingmorgan have managed to garner exactly zero posts that I even noticed when reading. :/
Kennigit
- Either Town, or someone Town stole his ability and he's Scum which seems very unlikely. Either way, the stealing thing feels very genuine.
Zack
- I'm trying to see whether he looks like he did in the previous game. Can't trust him anymore after that, but he seems to be more... light-hearted, I guess? Less aggressive.
- More aggressive later in the game. I don't know enough meta to say but I'd assume it's just his style.
Jarrema
Snerk
- Just hides a vote in there, no participation. Huh.
- Still skating by on day 2. :/
- Post 593 feels like scum that knows there is no cult.
Golden1Knight
- Quickly jumping on Jarrema to counter the wagon at (town) spaceman.'
- Really just sitting on the sidelines, just like Snerk. Though I faintly recall he did the same in Rappers or some other game I saw him in as Town.
KingMorgan
Pouter Pigeon
- Lohrenswald/Takhisis W/W?
- Post 264 too scummy to be scum.
Winston Hughes
- Quickly jumping on Jarrema to counter the wagon at (town) spaceman. (As Duff)
- Broke the tie. Slight town, but a good scum would do that too. (As Duff)
Takhisis
- Takhisis/Lohrenswald W/W?
- Post 291 just makes it look worse to me.
Choxorn
- Post 754. I like it.
Al Sipsclar
- Post 165 seems off.
- Post 669 ugh. Really?
Mat93
- Huh. I just realized almost all the way through this read of the thread that he's been active and all, but not a single thing I've read of him has pinged one way or another. That's just suspicious in itself. Roleclaim tho, so eh...
Lassie
- Opener feels off.
- Plenty of talk (though not quite as much as in the Rappers game)... some substance, I guess?
- Disappeared. Why?
Newyn
- I'm pretty sure he's Town, from what I've seen of him on GITP. Alternatively, scum PR with some sort of an ability that he's planned the use of from the beginning for some overly complicated gambit. Probably Town.
- Still Town but should probably try to be more useful instead of just fixating on whatever his power is.
Cuthillius
- First post isn't even funny.
- Push on Lohrenswald seems Town.
- I don't think he'd play his PR cards like this as scum.
Askthepizzaguy
- I'd be much more suspicious if people weren't confirming power shenanigans. People who shout so much about how Town they are tend to not be Town.
- ...but his actual content, when provided, looks pretty good. Is seriously leading the Town, so if it's in the wrong direction, that's bad. We should resolve this by doing independent analysis and going along with Pizza if the results coincide.
Cass
- Like the questioning. It's both compatible with my own style and fitting with observed behaviour in Rappers game.
- ...but where's the follow-up? Feels soft.
- Post 636 what is this 'fair' thing you speak of?
atheotes
- Post 586 feels Town. It seems like just the kind of reaction I tend to have when I spot something that feels really off and just post a vote immediately.
Okay, went over the thread, made notes where I saw something. Based on this, I'll Vote: Snerk for hiding and being scummy.
Jarrema and Kingmorgan have managed to garner exactly zero posts that I even noticed when reading. :/
Okay, so following extensive research into Jarrema's scum meta, I have discovered two vitally important facts:
1) He's very rarely scum.
2) His English has improved considerably over the last couple of years.
1) He's very rarely scum.
2) His English has improved considerably over the last couple of years.
